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Old 13-01-2006, 10:53 AM   #1
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Only in America - Oh Dear

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/12/ao...room_suesfoes/

Oh dear - only america could come up with this one.

If you are getting harrased then simply don't use that chat room!!!
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Old 13-01-2006, 11:03 AM   #2
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BOO HOO BOO HOO its not fair, everyones picking on me..
Now now play nicely children
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Old 13-01-2006, 11:14 AM   #3
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This does seem quite ridiculous, but interesting also.

I obviously don't know the ins & outs of this, but some people do act in a manner online in which they would not have the front to do in person. I hate the whole litigation thing in the U.S. however.

A lot of people do feel they can hide behind a keyboard & get away with being rude & offensive online, but surely this is what mods are for.

If the guy is well off - might be able to assume this since he is a president of a co. - then he may want to exert his financial power over them, which would be pretty sad.

Soon you will be able to sue people for getting 'dirty' looks, or even wrong thoughts! ....Oh no, here come the thought police
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Old 13-01-2006, 11:18 AM   #4
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Just another useless person who wants something for nothing. Suppose next thing we will hear is that he was abused by Michael Jackson as a child
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Old 13-01-2006, 11:49 AM   #5
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damn yanks
i remember a case of 2 forum members having an argument and one getting shot
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Old 13-01-2006, 11:54 AM   #6
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i remember a case of 2 forum members having an argument and one getting shot
What, AV Forums members?????

lol
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Old 13-01-2006, 12:50 PM   #7
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yea pooon & ibmatix
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Old 13-01-2006, 12:58 PM   #8
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....Oh no, here come the thought police
So YOU'VE watched Minority Report as well then? Hmmm...
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Old 13-01-2006, 1:35 PM   #9
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This does seem quite ridiculous, but interesting also.

I obviously don't know the ins & outs of this, but some people do act in a manner online in which they would not have the front to do in person. I hate the whole litigation thing in the U.S. however.

A lot of people do feel they can hide behind a keyboard & get away with being rude & offensive online, but surely this is what mods are for.

If the guy is well off - might be able to assume this since he is a president of a co. - then he may want to exert his financial power over them, which would be pretty sad.

Soon you will be able to sue people for getting 'dirty' looks, or even wrong thoughts! ....Oh no, here come the thought police
Isn't that a contradiction in terms? Either it's down to litigation (it is) or it's down to the 'thought police'. 99% of what was once 'PC' is down to the former.

The so called thought police aren't after suing, just controlling what you watch on TV, who, or what you worship etc. They're called 'mediawatch'................
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Old 13-01-2006, 1:49 PM   #10
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the whole sueing thing in America drives me nuts, its ridiculous, you upset me so i am going to sue, who told you to stay in a chat room , simply ignore the person, but instead take it to court?

ridiculous, i'm not a violent person but i would like to give the people involved a good smack in the head to wake them up to the real world.
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Old 13-01-2006, 1:55 PM   #11
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the whole sueing thing in America drives me nuts, its ridiculous, you upset me so i am going to sue, who told you to stay in a chat room , simply ignore the person, but instead take it to court?

ridiculous, i'm not a violent person but i would like to give the people involved a good smack in the head to wake them up to the real world.
I couldn't care less about it over there shahedz, it bugs me that it's been imported, like so many bad US problems, into this country.
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Old 13-01-2006, 2:45 PM   #12
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http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/12/ao...room_suesfoes/

Oh dear - only america could come up with this one.

If you are getting harrased then simply don't use that chat room!!!
what a sad he must be
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Old 13-01-2006, 2:50 PM   #13
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What me or the guy in the article???
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Old 13-01-2006, 3:07 PM   #14
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Old 13-01-2006, 5:29 PM   #15
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Hmm, this is just a stupid as the guy in America who thought the cruise control in his car actually dorve the car for him so he fell asleep at the wheel on purpose with it on and then he obviously crashed and then sued the manufacturere and won, I mean come on, Are these people born without a brain in there head???
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Old 13-01-2006, 5:53 PM   #16
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This gives me an idea...
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Old 13-01-2006, 6:12 PM   #17
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Hmm, this is just a stupid as the guy in America who thought the cruise control in his car actually dorve the car for him so he fell asleep at the wheel on purpose with it on and then he obviously crashed and then sued the manufacturere and won, I mean come on, Are these people born without a brain in there head???
Yes.
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Old 13-01-2006, 7:13 PM   #18
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All this sort of links into the compensation culture we have now, which no doubt originated in the US.

If you knew the billions which the police, NHS etc. pay out in compensation you'd be shocked . Basically, you could run another country on it!

It would be nice if we could find a way of squaring things without having to go to court & pay out loads of dosh. Obviously, if the NHS has taken one of your kidneys out when you just went in with a hernia, then you're going to want something for the trouble. But where possible, ie bad police etc. should lose their job/get banged up rather than paying out loads unless it's left someone with a situation where they need constant care to pay for.
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Old 13-01-2006, 11:56 PM   #19
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Too late. The sueing culture is already here.
Turn on the tv in the middle of the day and what do you see?

"Have you had an accident in the last 5 years? Have you tripped over a step? Fell on ice? Been bumped into in a busy shopping centre? Then call today to get compensation, if you don't win there's no fee, its FREE!"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH These drive me nuts! If you trip over a step ITS AN ACCIDENT YOU F*****! ITS NOT THE SHOP OWNERS FAULT!!!!!!!
If you want money GET A JOB YOU BUM!
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Old 13-01-2006, 11:58 PM   #20
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Actually, I have an idea.

Go to one of these places and walk into the door and fall down! Pretend you banged your head and claim compensation...
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Old 14-01-2006, 12:04 AM   #21
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Hang on, I've got more to say.

Suppose you happen to be a clumsy git...

You fall down a narrow set of stairs in a dinghy second hand book shop (you know the type) you snap your spine in half, paralysed and you can never work again. Is it right to sue the book shop? I mean, if the staircase was so dangerous why would you go up it? Did the shop assistant push you down? No, it was simply an ACCIDENT.

Life ain't fair and sh*t happens, you can't blame the shop, in reality it was gravity.

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Old 14-01-2006, 2:20 AM   #22
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Hang on, I've got more to say.

Suppose you happen to be a clumsy git...

You fall down a narrow set of stairs in a dinghy second hand book shop (you know the type) you snap your spine in half, paralysed and you can never work again. Is it right to sue the book shop? I mean, if the staircase was so dangerous why would you go up it? Did the shop assistant push you down? No, it was simply an ACCIDENT.

Life ain't fair and sh*t happens, you can't blame the shop, in reality it was gravity.
There are cases where people have cut corners and put people at risk
- companies not supplying the correct saftey gear then a worker having an accident.
- a staircase should be fit to use safely, if someone hasn't maintained so it has become dangerous, it should not be in use ... or if it is known to be precarious, it should at least warn people.

The problem is, we should be baseing it on what a reasonable person would think...... not what the absolute lowest denominator would.
It is virtually impossible to make something totaly safe, life is a risk.

It has become a blame culture -- we are not at fault, it is someone elses. I didn't know that if I put a cup of fresh brewed coffee on my dash board and drove my car that I would end up with scalded private parts .... its obviously the fault of the people who sold it me not providing sufficient warning!

In my opinion, that person is what I would technically call a 'moron' .... and quite frankly having a warning saying 'can be extremely hot' is not sufficient. You would have to have a 2ft flashing sign saying ' don't put hot liquids on your dash board in a moving vehicle ( yes dear that means the coffee you just bought ) '
You'd need a million different warnings for one single product to save these people. Are they worth saving ?
I'm not a proponent of Eugenics, but we aren't half watering down the gene pool .....
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Old 14-01-2006, 11:16 AM   #23
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There are cases where people have cut corners and put people at risk
- companies not supplying the correct saftey gear then a worker having an accident.
- a staircase should be fit to use safely, if someone hasn't maintained so it has become dangerous, it should not be in use ... or if it is known to be precarious, it should at least warn people.

The problem is, we should be baseing it on what a reasonable person would think...... not what the absolute lowest denominator would.
It is virtually impossible to make something totaly safe, life is a risk.

It has become a blame culture -- we are not at fault, it is someone elses. I didn't know that if I put a cup of fresh brewed coffee on my dash board and drove my car that I would end up with scalded private parts .... its obviously the fault of the people who sold it me not providing sufficient warning!

In my opinion, that person is what I would technically call a 'moron' .... and quite frankly having a warning saying 'can be extremely hot' is not sufficient. You would have to have a 2ft flashing sign saying ' don't put hot liquids on your dash board in a moving vehicle ( yes dear that means the coffee you just bought ) '
You'd need a million different warnings for one single product to save these people. Are they worth saving ?
I'm not a proponent of Eugenics, but we aren't half watering down the gene pool .....
The problem is not so much lack of intelligence, as unwillingness to think. The amount of times I despair due to having to encourage people to think is getting out of hand! At the same time, as long as the legislation allows for no middle ground there will always be lawyers willing to take on cases that, as you rightly say, are down to people just not thinking - period.

While yes, having worked in trades where H&S were a joke, I can see the need to tighten up on allowing companies, govt etc getting way with it, the line, however, needs re-drawing. Why for example, in our 'compensation culture' did it take a friend of mines relations eight years to get compensation for a hospital messing up their childs life, when some people get a fortune in months for not watching where they were going and slamming into a shopping centre door!? It was the centres fault apparently..............
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