[lucasisking]

Originally Posted by aVdub

I always wear a T shirt with the slogan 'I'm straight and like them womens a lot' and get a lot of abuse and strange looks when I go shopping in Brighton.

Are all................


ps Ive got gay mates and me and the GF have had some cracking nights out with some of them. They just get on with their lifes, like most people do.

Pre-cisely .

The way to change social attitudes is to just act normal, get on with your life and be yourself. Once people begin to realise that gay people are no different to any other kind of people- just with a different preference- then they will be accepted and society can get on with thinking about more important issues.

If the OP sets out to show he's different, then he'll be inviting people to treat him differently.

That's called self-fulfilling prophecy.

[krish]

Originally Posted by aVdub

I always wear a T shirt with the slogan 'I'm straight and like them womens a lot' ...

is that because if you didn't wear it then no one will know you are straight, as you are a gay acting ugly guy and camp!!

[gibbsy]

I find the OPs assumption somewhat strange. I have a couple of gay friends and I'm really proud to call them friends. Both are openly gay but neither of them wear a T-shirt to ram it down straight men's throats (sorry about any pun, not intended).

A few weeks ago I had a colonoscopy, administered by a male staff nurse. Should I have been worried as I know the man is gay.

[Ed Selley]

Originally Posted by gibbsy

A few weeks ago I had a colonoscopy, administered by a male staff nurse. Should I have been worried as I know the man is gay.

Only if he insisted it needed to be recorded for training purposes.

[technoman28]

It would be interesting to find out if any straight women find watching two gay men "at it" as arousing to them as two women "at it" is arousing to men.

I also think that a lot has to do with the fact that as far as lesbians are concerned, most men would be watching two models doing the business, whereas a lot of the lesbians you see in real life are not of that calibre. I may be accused of generalising here, but you did the same by saying "most men".

I also think that when men talk of gay men, they have the image in their head of some overly camp John Inman type, mincing around with a stereotypical girly voice, which although a lot of gay men live up to, I am sure that there are just as many if not more who don't.

As has been said on here, I don't preach hetrosexuality and try and convert anyone who dares to be homosexual, I also don't feel the need to tell the world I am hetro, so why should it be any different for a homosexual?

If you are gay, you are in a minority and minorities always get stick to some degree from certain quarters, usually from people who don't understand or don't want to understand.

[Deadringers]

Originally Posted by shaun24

Hey guys,

Thought I start a intresting topic and if this gets removed then I don't know why it breaks the forums rules to be honest!

Why is it that most straight men hate gay men? but it's ok for straight men to see 2 women kiss? I think that is unfair to be honest!

As I am openly gay and out and proud (I am not bisexual), I always wear a tshirt with the slogan (NOBODY KNOWS I'M GAY) In my town centre (Burnley, Lancashire) and most straight men call me gay insults which is annoying and for most of you on here who is going to say why I wear it? well I am out and proud that is why I wear it. If iIdidn't wear it then no one will know i am gay. As I am a straight acting good looking guy, I am not camp!!

I don't see the problem at all, its 2012 so why is homophobic is still alive?

I got a question for you mate...

Why is it that some Gay men go out of their way to let the whole world knowthat they are gay?

You know the type that wear t-shirts saying "I am gay", talk in adifferent/weird way (one guy I know who "came out" literally startedto talk "gay/feminine" just after??? why you talked normally beforeand didn't feel the need to let everyone know about it.

And before you call me homophobic or anything stupid I have two gay uncles,one who is my mother's Brother and the other his partner.

I love them to bits and they are in my short list of people that I know Icould always rely on for anything.

Yet they do not feel the need to dress stupidly or talk in a manner otherthan "normal".

You don't see me walking around the street with a t-shirt saying how much Ilike fanny and trying to be as butch and manly as I can be.

Just wish some people of the gay community would get a grip and stopattention seeking.

[Ed Selley]

Originally Posted by technoman28

It would be interesting to find out if any straight women find watching two gay men "at it" as arousing to them as two women "at it" is arousing to men.

Many do. Furthermore material exists for this market which is subtly different from the material that is actually aimed at Gay men.

[imightbewrong]

Originally Posted by technoman28

I also think that a lot has to do with the fact that as far as lesbians couples are concerned, most men would be watching two models doing the business, whereas a lot of the lesbians couples you see in real life are not of that calibre.

generalised

[dc8900]

Originally Posted by shaun24

. As I am a straight acting good looking guy, I am not camp!!

quick question, seeing as you're openly gay, what does straight-acting actually mean then? As I had assumed it meant you were yet to come out?

[imightbewrong]

I would have thought wearing a t-shirt saying 'yooo hooo!! I'm gay!!!' (or words to that effect) was not a good example of straight-acting

[shaun24]

Originally Posted by dc8900

quick question, seeing as you're openly gay, what does straight-acting actually mean then? As I had assumed it meant you were yet to come out?

Straight acting means a gay person is not camp like for example Anthony Cotton from Coronation Street who plays sean tully, now he is annoying as he is camp and I am not really into camp guys!

[dc8900]

Originally Posted by shaun24

Straight acting means a gay person is not camp like for example Anthony Cotton from Coronation Street who plays sean tully, now he is annoying as he is camp and I am not really into camp guys!

for some reason I find that distinction a bit odd, as for me you had Gay Bloke and then also a Camp Gay Bloke. I'd never think of a non-camp gay guy who does and likes traditional 'blokey' stuff as being straight-acting, they're simply blokes who are gay (if that make any sense)

[lucasisking]

Looks like someone has started yet another gay thread here

Where can I find Puffs??

Arf

[shaun24]

Originally Posted by Deadringers

I got a question for you mate...

Why is it that some Gay men go out of their way to let the whole world knowthat they are gay?

You know the type that wear t-shirts saying "I am gay", talk in adifferent/weird way (one guy I know who "came out" literally startedto talk "gay/feminine" just after??? why you talked normally beforeand didn't feel the need to let everyone know about it.

And before you call me homophobic or anything stupid I have two gay uncles,one who is my mother's Brother and the other his partner.

I love them to bits and they are in my short list of people that I know Icould always rely on for anything.

Yet they do not feel the need to dress stupidly or talk in a manner otherthan "normal".

You don't see me walking around the street with a t-shirt saying how much Ilike fanny and trying to be as butch and manly as I can be.

Just wish some people of the gay community would get a grip and stopattention seeking.

How is wearing a tshirt (NOBODY KNOWS I'M GAY) Attention seeking?

Like I said I wear it because I am proud of my Sexuality and I should not have to hide it

When people see straight couple kissing in the street no one cares but if it was 2 men then they will and shout abuse

That what get's me annoyed and angry

[Inked]

Originally Posted by shaun24

How is wearing a tshirt (NOBODY KNOWS I'M GAY) Attention seeking?

Like I said I wear it because I am proud of my Sexuality and I should not have to hide it

When people see straight couple kissing in the street no one cares but if it was 2 men then they will and shout abuse

That what get's me mad

You don't have to hide it, I don't hide that I am straight, but I don't wear tshirts proclaiming my straightness.

[Sonic67]

Originally Posted by dc8900

Or maybe he's doing us 'breeders' (a pejorative used by Gay people for straight people) a favour;

In the gay community "breeder" means something else.

[shaun24]

Originally Posted by dc8900

for some reason I find that distinction a bit odd, as for me you had Gay Bloke and then also a Camp Gay Bloke. I'd never think of a non-camp gay guy who does and likes traditional 'blokey' stuff as being straight-acting, they're simply blokes who are gay (if that make any sense)

Sorry no I don't understand what you trying to say? so you saying all gay men who are not camp like camp men?

Sorry but that is not true as most gay men who are not camp not intrested in camp men at all! Look on plenty of fish website or gaydar most profiles on men who are gay stating they not looking for camp men! so not all gay men like camps.

[Ed Selley]

Originally Posted by shaun24

How is wearing a tshirt (NOBODY KNOWS I'M GAY) Attention seeking?

It ventures information that nobody - straight, gay, young, old etc) is required to give. I'm currently wearing a T-shirt with an Arizona bar logo on it. If I go out in it I will receive no attention. If I change into the one I own that says "Masturbating is not a crime" on the front, it will provoke far more attention and (usually) comment.

[IronGiant]

Originally Posted by shaun24

Sorry no I don't understand what you trying to say? so you saying all gay men who are not camp like camp men?

Sorry but that is not true as most gay men who are not camp not intrested in camp men at all! Look on plenty of fish website or gaydar most profiles on men who are gay stating they not looking for camp men! so not all gay men like camps.

You misunderstand, he is saying that that gay men who aren't camp don't need to act as if they were straight, they are simply normal gay men who aren't camp, no acting is involved.

You seem to be looking to find offense or prejudice where there is none.

[mrtbag]

Originally Posted by shaun24

Straight acting means a gay person is not camp like for example Anthony Cotton from Coronation Street who plays sean tully, now he is annoying as he is camp and I am not really into camp guys!

So you can knock people for being 'camp' as it annoys you, but you don't like it when people knock you for wearing a t-shirt?

I am really confused about how this is a level playing field.

How about nobody advertise anything about their sexuality and just go out and talk to people without any pre-conceptions of what the person may be like. That's certainly how it should be. It is YOU who are creating the attention you get.

[technoman28]

You are not being asked to hide it, and you are seeking attention by having it on a t-shirt. And as far as I can see if you are "straight acting" how can you be doing that while announcing your gayness for everyone to see! In my book straight acting would be no discernable means of telling if a person is gay or not, therefore you could never act straight with that t-shirt on.

[dc8900]

Originally Posted by shaun24

Sorry no I don't understand what you trying to say? so you saying all gay men who are not camp like camp men?

Sorry but that is not true as most gay men who are not camp not intrested in camp men at all! Look on plenty of fish website or gaydar most profiles on men who are gay stating they not looking for camp men! so not all gay men like camps.

Originally Posted by IronGiant

You misunderstand, he is saying that that gay men who aren't camp don't need to act as if they were straight, they are simply normal gay men who aren't camp, no acting is involved.

Yes, as Iron Giant pointed out that is what I meant, I am saying Gay man are just normal blokes who happen to be gay

Originally Posted by IronGiant

You seem to be looking to find offense or prejudice where there is none.

+1, I'm now getting this feeling, considering OP's response to my previous post

[Sonic67]

Why are you proud of your sexual preference? I can understand if you had pulled someone out of a burning building or you had done some other achievement of note and wanted to tell others. But proud of that? I like curry but I’ve never felt it was a thing to be proud of. Attention seeking?

[Solar]

Originally Posted by shaun24

As I am openly gay and out and proud (I am not bisexual), I always wear a tshirt with the slogan (NOBODY KNOWS I'M GAY)

I would imagine this would probably be why you get the wrong attention.
No one gives a toss if you are gay, but why do you have to shove it in peoples faces?
I'm straight and proud, but you don't see me walking around with a t-shirt saying "you wish I was gay" .
That kind of stuff only feeds into the problem.

[Kebabhead]

Originally Posted by Sonic67

Why are you proud of your sexual preference? I can understand if you had pulled someone out of a burning building or you had done some other achievement of note and wanted to tell others. But proud of that? I like curry but I’ve never felt it was a thing to be proud of. Attention seeking?

You could say the same thing about the need to hold Gay pride events across the country

[DrPhil]

I think pretty much all of this has been summed up but I agree with it.

I'm not proud of being straight. I just am.

You are annoyed that some people don't like gay people, but you admit that you don't like camp gay people?

You claim not to be attention seeking but you wear a shirt that you know from experience attracts attention?

And adding to a point someone made about suddenly "becoming" camp. I knew a guy once who came out as gay and suddenly develops the classic stereotypical camp manner, limp wrist, feminine voice, effeminate etc. When on a night out, the more he drank the less camp he became simply because he was too drunk to remember to "put on" the campness.

[indianwells]

If you wear a t-shirt that gets you abuse then why wear the t-shirt? You.Want.The.Attention...

[IronGiant]

Bit like this thread really, intended to provoke a response. The implied challenge to the Mods to dare take it down was a particularly nice touch. Apologies if we aren't all as homophobic as you were hoping OP.

[Sonic67]

Having worn the t-shirt for others to see then start a thread where you tell even more people your preference, and about how you don't like camp guys etc. Can I also suggest some posts on Facebook, Twitter etc or have you done that already? I'm sure there are still more people out there who you can tell. In fact why don't you act camp? It will save the cost of a t-shirt.

[spudtator]

I'm still bemused by the fact someone would be 'proud' of their sexuality. It's just what you are, not something you've strived to achieve.
I've done a lot of voluntary work over the years. Something, if I felt that way, I could be proud of. Only my close friends know I do it. I certainly wouldn't go around wearing a 'I do voluntary work, ain't I great' t-shirt.
As someone earlier said, it seems to me like attention seeking.