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Old 21-04-2012, 12:22 PM   #1
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Seiko vs Accurrist

Agree it's to each persons choice however have to ask:
Which is a better watch Seiko or Accurist money/value/build. Which is better than the other ?

Need to get new watch old one broken (fossil) ;(

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Old 21-04-2012, 2:22 PM   #2
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I have always felt that the Seiko cases were better built, but I don't think there is much to chose between the movements these days.

I am currently wearing a Rotary Chronograph (The Navigator rip off) and it keeps time to within 5 seconds a month and has picked up very few scratches or dents in the 2 years I have had it. It feels solid and well built as well and only cost £35!

Pulsar are part of the Seiko family and offer good value with the same movements internally.
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Old 21-04-2012, 5:02 PM   #3
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Seiko by a mile.
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Old 21-04-2012, 5:05 PM   #4
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Seiko by a mile.
Know it's your view but care to elaborate as very interested in your thoughts?
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Know it's your view but care to elaborate as very interested in your thoughts?
Been around a lot longer ; watch manufacturing was Seiko's initial business , they build there own mechanisms. Their cheaper range are regarded as good robust work horses ; seiko make about the cheapest true mechanical that is any good ( the 5). Their watches generally offer very good value for money at all levels and are technically very polished watches ( as good as any of the high end marques at that sort of price point).

Accurist are bulk made cheap as possible from outside suppliers (usually citizien these days) with over-inflated prices (personally think they look horribe too) . They never actually made the watches they put their name on.

Seiko is a proper watch ; accurist is argos country.

You'll find seiko mentioned on plenty of watch forums ; accurist very rarely.

You'll get a lot more fun and appreciation from a seiko. I'd wear a £50 seiko over a £100 accurist any day of the week.
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Old 21-04-2012, 7:33 PM   #6
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Been around a lot longer ; watch manufacturing was Seiko's initial business , they build there own mechanisms. Their cheaper range are regarded as good robust work horses ; seiko make about the cheapest true mechanical that is any good ( the 5). Their watches generally offer very good value for money at all levels and are technically very polished watches ( as good as any of the high end marques at that sort of price point).

Accurist are bulk made cheap as possible from outside suppliers (usually citizien these days) with over-inflated prices (personally think they look horribe too) . They never actually made the watches they put their name on.

Seiko is a proper watch ; accurist is argos country.

You'll find seiko mentioned on plenty of watch forums ; accurist very rarely.

You'll get a lot more fun and appreciation from a seiko. I'd wear a £50 seiko over a £100 accurist any day of the week.
Thanks that very good information. I think I'm a convert.
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I recently bought a Seiko as a present:-



Compared to an Accurist I own for every day wear, the Seiko was in a different league to the Accurist. The Seiko felt like a solid and well-engineered watch, whereas my Accurist feels tacky. I was very impressed with the Seiko for £130.
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Seiko, Accurist are the poor cousin compared!
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Old 21-04-2012, 10:12 PM   #9
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Owning both brands i would agree that the Seiko just feels better quality in every respect, I was given this one for a valentines day pressie.

Obviously not this actual one, its not my video.


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Old 22-04-2012, 12:15 AM   #10
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I bought a seiko titanium kinetic watch 19 years ago and wear it nearly every day. It keeps perfect time, still has the original bracelet strap, not a mark on the glass, and all its needed over the years is 2 new capacitors when it has failed to keep a charge.

Looked at buying a new one a few weeks ago but with my old one still so good managed to resist temptation, (for now anyway)
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Old 22-04-2012, 2:20 AM   #11
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You ever seen James Bond wear an Accurist?

He's worn at least a couple of Seikos.
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Old 22-04-2012, 6:42 AM   #12
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If budget is an issue go for Lorus-part of Seiko. I've had one as a holiday watch for years and can't fault it.
Lorus Products | SEIKO UK Limited
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Old 22-04-2012, 11:33 AM   #13
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Seiko have been manufacturing their own watches, including cases and movements, in-house for many years. They are a very high quality watch manufacturer, but in the UK their easy and common availability has diluted the brand name somewhat. The fact that Tag Heuer use Seiko parts shows that Seiko are not the budget brand some consider them to be. That said, they make for most parts of the market, from the tens to many thousands of pounds, so they do make cheaper and lower quality watches for that market.

Accurist are not a bad make, but they are not in the same league as Seikos. At the Accurist end of the market perhaps you wont see a night and day difference, things are done to a price here, but I'd still bet on Seiko for a higher quality and longer-lasting product.
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I bought a seiko titanium kinetic watch 19 years ago and wear it nearly every day. It keeps perfect time, still has the original bracelet strap, not a mark on the glass, and all its needed over the years is 2 new capacitors when it has failed to keep a charge.
Ditto, although it has picked up a few marks here and there but is still on its original capacitor.
Used to be my working watch until my Longenes needed a new battery and, ahem, got too tight for my wrist and now I wear the Seiko everyday.

I also have an accurist and the difference in quality is night and day.
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I think my next watch will be a Seiko. I really fancy one of their Monster dive watches. They just look the mutts.
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Old 22-04-2012, 7:32 PM   #16
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For the money and quality I think Ian sold on Seiko just got to convince her indoors they are worth it as she is currently not too happy I want to spend £100-£200 on a watch even of it does look nice. I'll have to edumacate her or trade her in perhaps lol
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I think my next watch will be a Seiko. I really fancy one of their Monster dive watches. They just look the mutts.
Great watches for the money. The orange face one is particularly trendy at the moment.
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I recently picked up a mint Seiko 7A48-5000 on ebay. It was the first watch i brought after starting work, but i lost mine in a burglary back in 98. The replacement cost twice as much as the original but i have to say despite having watches costing 10-20 times that of the Seiko it'll always be my favourite. I have my eye on one of their "spring drives" at the moment.
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I recently picked up a mint Seiko 7A48-5000 on ebay. It was the first watch i brought after starting work, but i lost mine in a burglary back in 98. The replacement cost twice as much as the original but i have to say despite having watches costing 10-20 times that of the Seiko it'll always be my favourite. I have my eye on one of their "spring drives" at the moment.
Will I barf at the price ? Say if I wanted to look at one ? Still perhaps I shouldn't ask as getting things past misses ATM is almost like 'Getting blood out of stone'

Oh wow ~£5k ?
But look great slightly out of my league.

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I've had a Seiko for 6 years and still on the original battery great watch and never noticed any time loss.
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I have the Seiko 5 Automatic Military like in the video. It's a lovely watch, but time keeping is terrible; mines runs way to fast within a week it's 5 minutes too fast.
I also have the Rotary mentioned above (Breiling ripoff), it's a brilliant watch just looks nice and quartz means good timekeeping, battery just died after 3 years. Need to get that sorted still.
Never had an Accurist, but have considered them through sheer patriotism as it's a British brand.

My grandfather's Seiko is an old mechanical wind up from the 70's (could be older), excellent watch and excellent build quality. Sadly they just don't make them like they used to.

The cheaper Seiko's are now manufactured in Hong Kong, the expensive ranges are still made in Japan. I think that is correct these days.

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I recently bought a Seiko as a present:-

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I am wearing one of these right now except mine has gold markings. I have it on a Bradystraps sailcloth strap and love it. You will see a few examples of modded versions of the above watch which bears a striking resemblence to a certain Blancpain piece.
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Great watches for the money. The orange face one is particularly trendy at the moment.
This is the one


Seiko Orange Monster - skx781k1 skx781 skx781k by Bodying, on Flickr
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I have the Seiko 5 Automatic Military like in the video. It's a lovely watch, but time keeping is terrible; mines runs way to fast within a week it's 5 minutes too fast.
I also have the Rotary mentioned above (Breiling ripoff), it's a brilliant watch just looks nice and quartz means good timekeeping, battery just died after 3 years. Need to get that sorted still.
Never had an Accurist, but have considered them through sheer patriotism as it's a British brand.

My grandfather's Seiko is an old mechanical wind up from the 70's (could be older), excellent watch and excellent build quality. Sadly they just don't make them like they used to.

The cheaper Seiko's are now manufactured in Hong Kong, the expensive ranges are still made in Japan. I think that is correct these days.

Mine is the KI version, so not made in Japan, interestingly though it keeps pretty good time, it loses about 5 seconds over 6 to 8 weeks so far, and best of all it was only £73 delivered from CreationWatches.
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I have the Seiko 5 Automatic Military like in the video. It's a lovely watch, but time keeping is terrible; mines runs way to fast within a week it's 5 minutes too fast.

The seiko 5 is about the cheapest decent mechanical in the world ; considering they usually cost about £60 new 5mins a week is not unexpected for a mechanism at that cost level. And I'm pretty sure it could be made more accurate with a service.

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Never had an Accurist, but have considered them through sheer patriotism as it's a British brand.
Accurist is a company that sources it watches from other parties; its not really a watch brand at all.

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My grandfather's Seiko is an old mechanical wind up from the 70's (could be older), excellent watch and excellent build quality. Sadly they just don't make them like they used to.
Yes they do . The 5 is the cheapest mechanical out there. I'd still rather wear a 5 than a quartz. Quartz to me means a g-shock and be done with it.

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The cheaper Seiko's are now manufactured in Hong Kong, the expensive ranges are still made in Japan. I think that is correct these days.
I don't think its as clear cut as that; the HK subsidiary is not there specifically to deal with the cheaper ranges as far as I'm aware.

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You do have to be careful on Seiko straps. I once had a Seiko sports watch and broke the steel bracelet. My fault. I took the watch to several jewellers and they all said that a new strap wasn't available. So I sent it to Sony UK and they said the same thing. It seems the strap was tailored to the watch casing.

So I sent off for a cheapo military strap, the sort that was in one piece not two, and it looked terrible. After keeping the watch in a drawer for years I threw the thing away.

So beware what Seiko you buy.
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You do have to be careful on Seiko straps. I once had a Seiko sports watch and broke the steel bracelet. My fault. I took the watch to several jewellers and they all said that a new strap wasn't available. So I sent it to Sony UK and they said the same thing. It seems the strap was tailored to the watch casing.

So I sent off for a cheapo military strap, the sort that was in one piece not two, and it looked terrible. After keeping the watch in a drawer for years I threw the thing away.

So beware what Seiko you buy.
Hmmm really. Some of the reason I'm in the market for a new watch is because my fossil watch pin on the strap / clip broke and it's out of production and I can't get a new strap anywhere els the watch itself if still working fine.

So good / bad - excuse for a new watch yet old one is broken.
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Ive got a titanium Seiko, about 4½ years old now and still on same battery, never lost time.

A couple of months ago I lost one of the pins from the bracelet on a beach. Visited local watch shop, the so called expert said it would cost £8 and a few days for him to look at it, and because it was a titanium had a titanium pin that they didn't stock. I told him they don't have titanium pins, they have SS pins and they are stronger and more suitable for use as a split pin. I decided to fix it myself.

So took out another pin with a scriber, measured it and ordered one from a guy that sells pins on eBay. A day later all fixed. For 99p.
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Sweet but :)

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Ive got a titanium Seiko, about 4½ years old now and still on same battery, never lost time.

A couple of months ago I lost one of the pins from the bracelet on a beach. Visited local watch shop, the so called expert said it would cost £8 and a few days for him to look at it, and because it was a titanium had a titanium pin that they didn't stock. I told him they don't have titanium pins, they have SS pins and they are stronger and more suitable for use as a split pin. I decided to fix it myself.

So took out another pin with a scriber, measured it and ordered one from a guy that sells pins on eBay. A day later all fixed. For 99p.
Sweet I'll remember that one. May have mis-led/not be clear. What i meant by pin is not the pin of the bracelet however you know the bit that sticks up and clips on to the other side of the clasp. and secures/locks/clicks the bracelet shut. Don't know the official name for it

But just got off the phone (and whilst off main thread topic is a little promising as a temp pre-Seiko stop gap ) to Fossil repair. They think they should be able to repair it and at not at a too steep cost. So for now at least I think I could get it fixed so cool. That said however this experience has peeked my interest in Seiko. I WILL be getting one of these sweat little watches, for my available budget that is, some time soon.

Cheers all.

Keep the experiences of Seiko coming all good reading and perhaps it may provide me with other versions of Seiko watch than I am currently thinking of getting which is currently a toss up between - MENS SEIKO ARCTURA CHRONOGRAPH WATCH or
SEIKO 5 SPORTS AUTOMATIC 100M OYSTER or such like.

When I can it will probably be in the range of ~100-200 £ (note before I get flooded with 'Hey got one available to sell, which I'd be happy about my misses tells me I have to sell stuff or save to finance such a purchase) but will be a bit before I move fwd on this.

But watch this space I will be a Seiko owner soonish.

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But watch this space I will be a Seiko owner soonish.
This is mine, I love it:

Men's Seiko Titanium Chronograph Watch (SND419P1) - £187.00 - WATCH SHOP.com™
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