Can you have it but feel perfectly fine?

JoeF2k2 · 26-07-2009, 6:03 PM

My partner says she has a aching arm and has also had the "sh*ts" recently although i dont think its all liquid if u know what i mean. Although she says she feels perfectly fine. She carried out the assessment online and it said she should get tamiflu and stay indoors?

Are there certain strains or certain ways u feel as my mate from work has had it and he said his chest was tight, hard breating and was basically not able to do anything.

Like myself, ive had the odd day where my nose has run for 2 seconds then stopped but surely this cant be classed as it?

**Greg** · 26-07-2009, 6:13 PM

From what I've read a lot of people can and have had it and not even noticed or just had very minor symptons. Some people just get it worse than others.

Of course, what is happening now and I have noticed this in a few threads now is that someone might be ill for whatever reason and now immediately puts it down as swine flu. The problem there being that if you take the tamiflu now, when you don't have it, it might be significantly less effective if you take it when you eventually do get it. (well that's what they said on the news anyway!

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JoeF2k2 · 26-07-2009, 6:18 PM

well thats what i thought, the online checker puts her down as having it even though to me her symptoms compared to my friends at work is minor. And we dont want her taking tamiflu and being off work when she feels perfectly able to do anything unlike my mate then if she had it worse the tamiflu as u say may not be as effective

neilneil · 26-07-2009, 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeF2k2

well thats what i thought, the online checker puts her down as having it even though to me her symptoms compared to my friends at work is minor. And we dont want her taking tamiflu and being off work when she feels perfectly able to do anything unlike my mate then if she had it worse the tamiflu as u say may not be as effective

If you have it but your symptoms are mild then don't take any Tamiflu.
Tamiflu has it's own set of unwanted side effects. And everyone who takes Tamiflu is a potential for it to become resistant to the drug. So if you feel ok with the symptoms you have then it's best to let your own immune system deal with it.

-Neil

JoeF2k2 · 26-07-2009, 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by neilneil

If you have it but your symptoms are mild then don't take any Tamiflu.
Tamiflu has it's own set of unwanted side effects. And everyone who takes Tamiflu is a potential for it to become resistant to the drug. So if you feel ok with the symptoms you have then it's best to let your own immune system deal with it.

-Neil

i thought that, but should she continue her everday things? if it gets worse then confine herself to stay in for the required amount of days ? its a funny one

neilneil · 26-07-2009, 9:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeF2k2

i thought that, but should she continue her everday things? if it gets worse then confine herself to stay in for the required amount of days ? its a funny one

Hmm, I'm probably not a good person to answer that because I've ranted about people spreading it around before.
My feeling is that just because your partner is lucky to have very mild symptoms she should not risk spreading it around to those who cannot cope with it as well as she can. But then I'm sure she has a life to get on with as much as anyone else. However if I were her would still try to reduce passing it on as much as possible to those less fortunate than her.

-Neil

stepneg · 01-08-2009, 6:17 PM

I think I have had it but can't be sure, I felt like I was about to get the flu or a bad cold, felling a bit hot and cold with a stiff neck. I phoned the number and was told to take tamiflu and stay indoors for five days but after a couple of days I felt fine. I stayed of work as I am able to work from home but I really don't know if I have had it or not as I here so many people who are really ill with it

**Greg** · 01-08-2009, 9:14 PM

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I think I have had it but can't be sure, I felt like I was about to get the flu or a bad cold, felling a bit hot and cold with a stiff neck. I phoned the number and was told to take tamiflu and stay indoors for five days but after a couple of days I felt fine. I stayed of work as I am able to work from home but I really don't know if I have had it or not as I here so many people who are really ill with it

Yes, but they have stated quite often many, many people have had it (or will have it) and not even notice. It's just the differences in the human body from one person to the next.

Alternatively, you might have just had a cold. That thing we all used to get that before swine flu nobody paid any attention to. Now no one has a cold, they have swine flu.

Miyazaki · 04-08-2009, 6:46 PM

Lets put things into perspective. If people take tamiflu because the have the ***** and an achy arm that is crazy. All it will achieve is to make the swine flu virus mutate more rapidly into an untreatable form.

I have had a heavy cold since last Wednesday but refuse to believe I have the swine flu as I don't have either of the main two symptoms, which are a sudden fever or a sudden cough.

If you have the flu you will know about it, it usually takes 2-3 weeks to clear out your system, and you certainly wouldn't be able to get out of bed for a while. It is possible to gain an immunity to standard flu due to seasonal exposure, but the whole point of swine flu is that it is novel to humans and there is no natural immunity.

1 in a maybe a billion would by chance have natural immunity, but that probability is extremely remote.

Miyazaki · 04-08-2009, 6:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stepneg

I think I have had it but can't be sure, I felt like I was about to get the flu or a bad cold, felling a bit hot and cold with a stiff neck. I phoned the number and was told to take tamiflu and stay indoors for five days but after a couple of days I felt fine. I stayed of work as I am able to work from home but I really don't know if I have had it or not as I here so many people who are really ill with it

The people at the hotline have 1 day's medical training. They are not really in an appropriate position to be dishing out diagnoses.

Some friends of the family are doctors and have been shocked at all the misdiagnoses from the hotline. Someone phoned them after the hotline told him to get tamiflu after he complained of a sore leg. He went to the family friend who is a doctor and immediately saw that it was in fact a metal plate in his leg that had become septic.

Do not put any faith into what the muppets at the hotline tell you. There is no substitute for rigourous medical training.

krusty · 13-08-2009, 9:24 PM

touch wood i havnt had swine flu..neither has anyone in my household

all i can say is it cant be anyworse than that winter flu bug that did the rounds last winter

that was pretty bad!

**Greg** · 14-08-2009, 7:41 AM

So far with a workforce of 50, only 1 person has had it so far. We had a suspected second case but they are perfectly fine after two days so we think they just had a cold.

king312 · 14-09-2009, 4:38 PM

Short answer: YES

This phenomena in medicine is called the 'iceburg effect' basically a lot of people will have the virus and a smaller number will be affected and an even smaller number will present to healthcare services.

Saying that, most of the flu/influenza at the moment is of other strains to H1N1, probably even the bird-flu and any other 'animal-flu' you can think of

Most people will not have it really bad and given the 'fear-lead' consumption of 'Tamiflu' (which isn't proven to be effective). More people will be having side-effects or even a diagnosis of Hypochondriasis (which is really a serious diagnosis).