[eric pisch]

got 6 staff at my place of with it, it seams to be taking off in force in southwark

only a matter or time till i get it

ho hum

[alexs2]

Originally Posted by eric pisch

got 6 staff at my place of with it, it seams to be taking off in force in southwark

only a matter or time till i get it

ho hum

Are these confirmed seropositive cases of H1N1 or as is more common at present,presumptive cases,with the diagnosis made on flu-like symptoms?

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by alexs2

Are these confirmed seropositive cases of H1N1 or as is more common at present,presumptive cases,with the diagnosis made on flu-like symptoms?

all been to there gp and had it confirmed, dont know what tests they did thou

[alexs2]

Originally Posted by eric pisch

all been to there gp and had it confirmed, dont know what tests they did thou

Current advice is that the diagnosis be made on clinical grounds,and that only those requiring hospitalisation for severe symptoms would have a diagnosis made on laboratory means.

The problem with clinical diagnosis is that common flu and the H1N1 variant share a large number of symptoms,and thus overlap to a very large degree.

It is correct that people who may have been exposed to H1N1 directly,or via persons suspected of having it,should be sent home,but it does not mean they are actually suffering from it per se.

What is perhaps more important is that it is expected on epidemiological and WHO advice,that the infection rate in the general population is likely to be very high,as one would expect with a pandemic virus,but that the mortality and serious complication rates are currently low.

The latest WHO figures suggest a mortality rate of less than 0.4%,and these figures are based on confirmed cases as opposed to those presumed to have H1N1,and the current UK rate is about 0.17%.

This is in stark contrast to a disease such as SARS,which carries an overall death rate of nearly 10%.

[PJTX100]

Two people in our offices are off with suspected swine flu.

I'll be glad when the kids finish school for the summer hols at the end of this week.

It will be interesting to see whether they will go back to school as scheduled in 6 or 7 weeks time. Or whether the situation will have developed by then.

[alexs2]

The situation currently is that we are well beyond any thoughts of containing this outbreak,and this would mean that removing children from school etc is unlikely to have any direct benefit,unless they are being exposed to definite cases there,and in any event,they may well be exposed to infected friends/relatives etc during holiday time,and contract flu or H1N1 at that time.

It is a difficult situation for many to come to terms with,but as has been said,whilst very many of us WILL contract it,as a part of the pandemic's course,very few of us in percentage terms are likely to suffer serious consequences.

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by alexs2

The situation currently is that we are well beyond any thoughts of containing this outbreak,and this would mean that removing children from school etc is unlikely to have any direct benefit,unless they are being exposed to definite cases there,and in any event,they may well be exposed to infected friends/relatives etc during holiday time,and contract flu or H1N1 at that time.

It is a difficult situation for many to come to terms with,but as has been said,whilst very many of us WILL contract it,as a part of the pandemic's course,very few of us in percentage terms are likely to suffer serious consequences.

you swallowed a dictionary?

[alexs2]

Originally Posted by eric pisch

you swallowed a dictionary?

If that's sarcasm directed at someone giving a bit of perspective or advice on this........and one really has to ask if that's the most helpful remark to make.

If it's a joke,you'll excuse me for having little sense of humour with this.

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by alexs2

If that's sarcasm directed at someone giving a bit of perspective on this........and one really has to ask if that's the most helpful remark to make.

no not at all, i know i aint the sharpest tool but i had to de construct both your last posts to try and understand them

as for perspective, none really needed, swine flue is pretty nasty but its hardly on par with the black death

most of us will get it over the next few months, some sooner than others (looks at empty office chairs) i doubt the casualty rate will be that much difference to the norm, 10-20k die a year from flu?

[alexs2]

Originally Posted by eric pisch

no not at all, i know i aint the sharpest tool but i had to de construct both your last posts to try and understand them

as for perspective, none really needed, swine flue is pretty nasty but its hardly on par with the black death

most of us will get it over the next few months, some sooner than others (looks at empty office chairs) i doubt the casualty rate will be that much difference to the norm, 10-20k die a year from flu?

Oh well...I must try and make things a bit simpler next time.

The real problem as I've said repeatedly is the numbers involved in a pandemic,as much as the infection and complication rates.

[JoeF2k2]

4 ppl have it at my work and we are NHS distribution, does the company have to inform anyone or take extra precautions

[Decadence]

I have been ill since Friday but can't be sure whether it was Fifth Disease I caught from my Son or Swine Flu. Don't care now as I am 75% well and back at work.

[neilneil]

Originally Posted by Decadence

I have been ill since Friday but can't be sure whether it was Fifth Disease I caught from my Son or Swine Flu. Don't care now as I am 75% well and back at work.

If you are 75% well are you no longer contageous?
I wouldn't be happy if you returned to my work still able to spread it around to everybody else.

-Neil

[Citizen J]

One member of staff at my work as got it (confirmed case), coupled with this someone went home today saying they weren't feeling well and they think it may be Swine flu.

Another individual at my Dad's work place has it but I am staying positive, no point being constantly anxious about it. The media aren't really helping either it has to be said. Like today one reporter on the news said:

"No one knows how many people are going to die from the global pandemic of Swine Flu". Statements like this simply scaremonger and don't help.

[leedswillprevai]

Originally Posted by Jows073

One member of staff at my work as got it (confirmed case), coupled with this someone went home today saying they weren't feeling well and they think it may be Swine flu.

Another individual at my Dad's work place has it but I am staying positive, no point being constantly anxious about it. The media aren't really helping either it has to be said. Like today one reporter on the news said:

"No one knows how many people are going to die from the global pandemic of Swine Flu". Statements like this simply scaremonger and don't help.

Agreed, I think people are going to end up worrying themselves senseless and thus getting ill, also become paranoid that they have a terrible flu, when in fact they have a virus. The media are once again engaging in psychological warfare. Just chillax and stay healthy by maintaining your bodies immune system, get plenty of sleep and eat the right things, let the body do the rest.

[Chrisoldinho]

I do think there will be a lot of milking of "swine flu" by people who just don't want to work, this includes teachers delaying going back to school and in particular Government sectors where sick pay is a guarentee.

I would be interested to see a statistical comparison between time off in the private sector vs public sector in 12 months time and I would wager that the percentage in the public sector will double that of the private.

All IMO of course.

[neilneil]

Originally Posted by Chrisoldinho

I do think there will be a lot of milking of "swine flu" by people who just don't want to work, this includes teachers delaying going back to school and in particular Government sectors where sick pay is a guarentee.

I would be interested to see a statistical comparison between time off in the private sector vs public sector in 12 months time and I would wager that the percentage in the public sector will double that of the private.

All IMO of course.

Or maybe those who return to work early or soldier on whilst sick are the ones that are spreading it around the most. Thereby costing the country even more.

Perhaps public sector workers will have a higher sickness record at the end of it but they may have also saved a lot of other private sector employees from getting it by not spreading it around.

-Neilneil

[clc.sheff]

Originally Posted by alexs2

The situation currently is that we are well beyond any thoughts of containing this outbreak,and this would mean that removing children from school etc is unlikely to have any direct benefit,unless they are being exposed to definite cases there,and in any event,they may well be exposed to infected friends/relatives etc during holiday time,and contract flu or H1N1 at that time.

It is a difficult situation for many to come to terms with,but as has been said,whilst very many of us WILL contract it,as a part of the pandemic's course,very few of us in percentage terms are likely to suffer serious consequences.

Just out of interest alexs2 where have you got all your info on this. I am genuinely interested (no joke!) and your posts seem very informative. Been reading up this morn as have got a 9 week old nipper at home and despite not wanting to get on the hysteria train it's a bit hard not to.

[Hitby]

I've been off since Monday with achey body, sore throat and a temperature on and off. Just spoken to the doctor who reckons if you've got swine flu you will have a high temperature for 5 straight days and won't be able to leave your bed so he reckons I've just got a cold or something. Back to work for me tomorrow