[kopchoir]

Just been looking at the news and i see banksy has a art exhibition in bristol that was top secret what are people views on his pictures in general
Personally i quite like it but then i dont live in bristol and dont have it painted on the side of my house either his work also tends to fetch a lot of cash
anyone from bristol that has an opinion on what its like in bristol and how do the people of bristol view it.

Kop

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...re/8094839.stm

[Iccz]

You only have to look at the state of some of the Turner Prize winners to see that "art" isn't what it used to be...

I think it's better to look at than most graffiti or "tagging" that you see about, in places like Holland etc you get some amazing graffiti artists that make some really good pieces and in some places are encouraged to do so. And some of them are a lot better than the stuff Banksy does - the thing with him is all the press / hype, fair play to him.

I think my vote would fall between the 2 choices somewhere, while it's not art, it's not a graffiti mess - not your average piece of graffiti mess anyways.

[signs]

Brilliant ...Art

[Orson]

Some of his paintings & 'graffiti' I'd call art, and I like.

But fish fingers in a goldfish bowl, chicken nuggets pecking in a chicken coop, burnt out ice cream vans... far too obvious & patronising, and I wouldn't give it shelf space.

[daveaka]

Fantastic, I would love some of Banksy's art on my wall.

[bazonix]

absolutely amazing.... iv bought a few for friends etc... amazing:

Banksy Graffiti pictures, London. Stencil Graffiti images by Banksy

[pandemic]

Most of his stuff is brilliant.

[Codehead]

Love the picture of the House of Commons.

[Zeromajor]

Originally Posted by Iccz

You only have to look at the state of some of the Turner Prize winners to see that "art" isn't what it used to be..

I pictured you saying that in a leather recliner thumbing through a coffeetable book on masters

I agree that a lot of it these days is either hyped nonsense or farmed artschool pretension but the beauty of art is it's subjective nature. The fact you're discussing the validity of banky's work, makes it art.

Yadda yadda

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by Codehead

Love the picture of the House of Commons.

oh yes, got that one right at the right time didn't he

i love it

[oakie]

Load of old rubbish for the metropolitan middle classes and media lovies to gush over.

Round here some one spray painted (now pressure washed off by the council) a 7 foot tall gold penis and testicles, detailed with multicoloured veins and spermlets - now that is art!

[eric pisch]

Originally Posted by oakie

Load of old rubbish for the metropolitan middle classes and media lovies to gush over.

Round here some one spray painted (now pressure washed off by the council) a 7 foot tall gold penis and testicles, detailed with multicoloured veins and spermlets - now that is art!

was it meant to be alan sugar?

[dazza1011]

all graffitti is art in my eyes, ( with the execption of tagging which looks crap )

one of my favourites is Kid Acne a local artist also Rolf Harris did one in Sheffield with 808 State
see below

[ps3mad]

Vandal id throw away the key.Cant stand this so called art.

[JAMFish72]

Originally Posted by ps3mad

Vandal id throw away the key.Cant stand this so called art.

Well, Ya Boo Sucks to YOU, Fritzie!

[signs]

Originally Posted by ps3mad

Vandal id throw away the key.Cant stand this so called art.

but they can't as nobody knows who he is

Art in it's self

[JAMFish72]

I like what I've seen of his work, it's very unique, topical and original. But I can see why he's anonymous, as he'd be arrested for vandalism in a heartbeat if he ever revealed his identity!

[ps3mad]

Originally Posted by signs

but they can't as nobody knows who he is

Art in it's self

Of course people know who he is! just not many .

I used to work cleaning it off for the council,it was cat and mouse,as soon as it was gone it was back up again.Id have great pleasure jet washing one of banksy "master pieces"

[Singh400]

It's definitely art in my eyes. I mean look at the rubbish (literally) that wins the Turner Prize and such. Remember that scrunched up piece of A4 paper that one won year? Exactly!

I'd call most good graffiti art. I hate the 'tags' though.

I'd pay to have banksy to do the side of my house. If I have the money, I would glady buy some or his art. He speaks to our generation like no other

[Sniper Ash6]

you are going to end up on something i remember we had great discussions in english at school about of what is art - eg the person that signed a urinal and put it in the tate modern calling it "art"

also remember watching a long video of things that knock into each other to cause a chain reaction (similar to a previous advert i believe?)

i have had graffiti done to my house and think in general its just graffiti, some can be quite good but where it is says it all

[JAMFish72]

What do you mean by "tags"? Is it that weird warpy style of lettering that almost all other graffiti seems to consist of?

[Ethics Gradient]

Originally Posted by Foebane

What do you mean by "tags"? Is it that weird warpy style of lettering that almost all other graffiti seems to consist of?

yes - basically stylised versions of signatures to denote that spotty kid xyz was ere'

[krish]

wotever happened to Chads?

[lostinspace]

How does anyone know it's his if nobody knows who he is, and he won't come forward to claim it as his own?
There could be dozens of him..........and they're all vandals.

[TameRacingDriver]

Tags are ****, but in general, I'd rather look at half decent grafitti than drab walls or battleship grey metal shutters. I find it adds character and charm to certain areas.

[J1mbo]

I must admit I unashamedly adore Banksy's work, but I likening it to what most people would call Graffiti (as several people have in this thread) is so far off the mark as to be ridiculous.

Obviously much of what he does takes it's roots from standard 'tagging' in that it is covert, unsolicited and often makes use of public buildings and amenities, but it isn't hard to see the huge difference between his often very funny and painstakingly created stencil work and the very variable quality of the somewhat freeform 'mural' pieces seen on previously bare walls in the urban sprawl. The 808/Rolf piece Dazza has posted is symptomatic of this - if you didn't know that Rolf had sketched himself I suspect you'd pass it off as a fairly dire amateur work. Actually I think I would anyway...

There is even less comparison to the artless, meaningless vandalism of 'signature' tags that makes up the bulk of the graffiti we see on a daily basis.

He's done so much more than the wall work as well - I'm especially fond of the plastic shark fins he distributed throughout the 2ft of muddy water at a particularily wet Glastonbury one year and also the carefully doctored 'old masters' he's smuggled into (and carefully hung) in various art galleries.

Much of his wit used to be brilliantly subversive, though I think he has inevitably suffered from being over successful - it's hard to rebel when you've become part of the status quo.

I think the removal of his enormous and vary carefully painted Pulp Fiction Jules and Vincent (with bananas) from an entirely crappy bit of featureless wall above Old Street tube by some utter morons at Transport for London was a disgrace (he's twice since replaced it with newer, less iconic works).

I remember stumbling upon an original Bansky down a dingy back alley in Melbourne, Australia - next to some old bins one of his Rats peered out at me...

[signs]

Originally Posted by krish

wotever happened to Chads?

Turk 182 ?

[IronGiant]

If Michaelangelo had snuck into the Cistene Chapel and painted it under cover of darkness without permission it would have been Graffiti.

I feel the same about Banksy.


Dave

[J1mbo]

Originally Posted by IronGiant

If Michaelangelo had snuck into the Cistene Chapel and painted it under cover of darkness without permission it would have been Graffiti.

I feel the same about Banksy.


Dave

So I guess that's a thumbs up then?

[IronGiant]

Yes, I think he's very talented and I'm impressed by his work. But not if he puts it somewhere without asking

Some of his nodding duck hotdogs etc were a bit up himself though