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Xbox Live's Major Nelson

Major Nelson had this to say.........

As you know, we are committed to keeping Xbox LIVE a safe and fair place to play for the more than 17 million active members. As part of our regular safety monitoring we have pinpointed a group of players who have unlocked specific Gears of War 2 Achievements through an unauthorized hack. Deliberate cheats like these are in direct violation of the Xbox LIVE Terms of Use and will not be tolerated. As I post this, we’ve begun taking steps to reset the Gamerscores of the offending players. As I have mentioned in the past, this is something we do occasionally to keep the service free of cheating in order to maintain a fair and level playing field for everyone. If you play fair and earn your achievements without glitching or cheating, you have nothing to worry about. Read my original post that shows what a cheater looks like and head over to Xbox.com to read the Gamerscore correction FAQ that may answer some of your questions.

[ParaNoiA]

well its a step in the right direction.. Now other games need to do the same...

[bearman3784]

as long as they arent glitching/cheating in MP games whats the big deal its only a number its up to them if the designers have made it possible to glitch a few achievements and they arent bothered about the feeling of achieving them legit. although im not sure to the exact extent of this glitch/cheating...

[ParaNoiA]

well considering its possible to download saves somehow then they save as your own giving you what ever the save games gamerscore had. I for one am glad they are finally getting there Gamerscore removed, It might be a number but its also a guide to who your playing,

[daveaka]

They should be arrested.....And possibly tortured....Then banned

[gEELOVER]

It might be a number but its also a guide to who your playing,

Not to mention we all have to pay to use XBoxlive and expect it to be cheat free!<!-- / message -->

[Paul_T]

I've heard it's not just limited to hacks, but also to anyone who's used the Second Profile Glitch, plus expoilting a glitch within the game.

[Scholes18]

I like the touch where they will add a tag on the gamercard labelling the people concerned as cheaters

[jason g]

Originally Posted by daveaka

They should be arrested.....And possibly tortured....Then banned

or be made to play on a PS3.

[Ico.]

Originally Posted by jason g

or be made to play on a PS3.

And there I was thinking that we were above such fanboy comments in the 360 section....

I've not got a PS3 but that is only down to time constraints recently. It has some games I'd like to play.

I just hope there detection rate is 100% accurate.

[shagaboopon]

Originally Posted by Ico.

And there I was thinking that we were above such fanboy comments in the 360 section....

I've not got a PS3 but that is only down to time constraints recently. It has some games I'd like to play.

I just hope there detection rate is 100% accurate.

The main offenders that will be affected are all those that glitched to get the rank 100 achievement and logo. It is 100% accurate because they can track online stats for every player and know who has earned it legit. Also there is no legit rank 100 player yet so by that very definition every single one of them has glitched it at this time.

Personally speaking I'm glad something is being done now but they really should have filled this glitch in as it's the same as in the original Gears.

[craggs]

That is strange im sure i was playing a 22 rank player the other day who had no gamerpoints,,i sometimes run through the gamer cards.,,i thought how could that be he/she at the very least would have rookie and the one for 15 rank.

in game cheats/glitches for rank matches would wind me up,,achievments,,hehehehe im sure some of these people have a more powerful shotgun than everyone else (can you tell ive been blown away soooo many times)

[shagaboopon]

Originally Posted by craggs

That is strange im sure i was playing a 22 rank player the other day who had no gamerpoints,,i sometimes run through the gamer cards.,,i thought how could that be he/she at the very least would have rookie and the one for 15 rank.

Yeah I believe once you've had your score rest you cannot get the achievements again, I could be wrong but I've read it somewhere. If it's trult the case then they've had a reset done and are probably just enjoying their time with Gears 2 until they run out of Live subscription. I imagine they'll probably then create a new tag.

[Scholes18]

Taken from the Gears 2 website

Gears 2 Team Takes Action Against Cheaters

The Gears of War 2 team continues to look for ways to improve the game and enrich the experience for our players. Sometimes this takes the form of a new feature, such as the recently released experience and leveling system, and other times it means action against those who try to compromise our game.

To that end, starting this week, we will begin taking steps against players verified as cheaters. These players have not only violated the spirit of the game, but they have also violated the Xbox LIVE Terms of Use. This week, the Gears 2 team will take these initial steps with a number of player accounts that belong to verified cheaters:

* The player’s gamerscore will be reset to zero.
* The player will be unable to earn or recover gamerscore from any previous games—all games, not just Gears 2.
* The account involved will be branded on Xbox LIVE as belonging to a cheater. This information will be reflected in the gamer profile, both on Xbox.com and in the Xbox Dashboard on the console.

We believe that our players deserve a level playing field. The Gears of War team is committed to providing the best multiplayer experience on Xbox LIVE.

[MarkyPancake]

My thread isn't Gears 2 specific though and refers to all cheaters:

Gamerscore correction for cheaters

[Crovon]

MAXCONSOLE - XBOX 360 - MS banning Gears of War 2 achievement hackers

Major Nelson has confirmed that MS is now banning Gears of War 2 achievement hackers. Hacking achievements is against the TOS and players will have their scores reset if they are believed to be hacking things.


As you know, we are committed to keeping Xbox LIVE a safe and fair place to play for the more than 17 million active members. As part of our regular safety monitoring we have pinpointed a group of players who have unlocked specific Gears of War 2 Achievements through an unauthorized hack. Deliberate cheats like these are in direct violation of the Xbox LIVE Terms of Use and will not be tolerated. As I post this, we’ve begun taking steps to reset the Gamerscores of the offending players. As I have mentioned in the past, this is something we do occasionally to keep the service free of cheating in order to maintain a fair and level playing field for everyone. If you play fair and earn your achievements without glitching or cheating, you have nothing to worry about. Read my original post that shows what a cheater looks like and head over to Xbox.com to read the Gamerscore correction FAQ that may answer some of your questions.


News Source: MajorNelson

[Billy Goodgun]

I think this thread has already been started fella...

Gears of War 2 Achievement Hacking: Banning has begun...

[DrinksInBars]

Originally Posted by Ico.

And there I was thinking that we were above such fanboy comments in the 360 section....

I've not got a PS3 but that is only down to time constraints recently. It has some games I'd like to play.

I just hope there detection rate is 100% accurate.

i bought one - i have played killzone, resistance, metal gear and drake and am struggling to find another game

[shagaboopon]

Originally Posted by DrinksInBars

i bought one - i have played killzone, resistance, metal gear and drake and am struggling to find another game

Heavenly Sword is good fun if you can pick it up cheap. Not the longest game in the world but if you enjoy hack n slash games its worth it.

[MarkyPancake]

More on the cheating:

Microsoft Punishes Xbox Live Cheaters

[rutting womble]

i agree with with reseting the ranks, but do it properly for gods sake, ive had mine reset and i dont know any of the cheats for it. the worst ive done is while playing a game where cheating is obvious, ive just left the game. so ive been punished for no reason, think i'll sell gears and go back to halo

[Raffboner]

A lot of the time the rank reseting is one of the many joyfull problems we endure on Gears2 and not actually a punishment for cheating. Personally I hate mp achievements as it can destroy games your enjoyment like in Gears2 with random team mates throwing smokes at you so you drop the meatflag. If companies such as Epic weren't so desperate to keep players with their inferior products by creating these achievements like rank 100 then there may be less cheating. All achievements should be available on and offline and if they have a decent product the players will stay, just look at COD4.

[rutting womble]

your right, all the ranking system does is create more abusive muppets with access to a mike, its a shame as it spoils an otherwise good game