Gears Of War 2 is about to become awesome

[JusR23]

Lifted from the Epic forums

Originally Posted by Mark Rein
Happy New Year!

First of all I hope all of you had a safe and happy holiday season.

As I mentioned before the break we’ve been working on a major title update for Gears of War 2. This update will address bugs and exploits as well as add some new achievements related to downloadable content. We don’t have an exact date for it but all indicators are it will go live within January. If that changes we’ll let you know.

We’re fixing a whole bunch of online exploits. For example we’ve fixed the ability to wield an invisible shield, melee through some walls, gain infinite Lancer ammo and equip a shield and a two-handed weapon simultaneously plus many more.

We’re also making several small changes to improve the overall online gameplay experience. A few of the ones that might interest you are; increased penalties for quitting matches early, adding additional spawn protection against planted grenades and chainsaw attacks, and adding the ability to see the Submission flag carrier destination by using Tac/Com.

We know you folks love achievements so on the achievement side we’re adding achievement progress numbers to the War Journal, increasing the frequency of in-game Achievement progression notifications and adding some new Achievements for DLC.

This is just a very small list of some of the things that will be in the next title update but one more item which has been talked about a lot in our forums deserves a special call out...

About that shotgun...

We fixed the client side hit detection on the shotgun so that in a high-latency (i.e. “laggy”) match, the shotgun will be more reliable. We’ve also fixed another bug whereby shotgun and boomshot rounds could strike the ground when firing from the hip.

So there’s a brief status report on the next title update. At some point I expect we’ll post a more detailed list but I assure you we’re working hard to get this out the door and once it’s done we’ll start working on the next update. We’ll try to do a better job keeping you informed of our progress on future updates and we’ll try to be a little more active in the forums once this is done.

Let the good times roll (or should that be a shotty roll????).

[Zzebedee]

Good news but i notice nothing is mentioned about the lag problems and isn't that the reason people aren't playing it anymore?

[Dawseman]

Thanks mate. Fingers crossed it does sound promising.

[trapdoor berk]

nice1 Jus I've been looking on the epic forums most days, waiting for a post like that. He dose say he can't list all the fixes, so lets hope for more of the same when it dose actually get a confirmed list.

[JimboJetSet]

Indeed, until they get it up to Halo 3 online speed, the major problem to me still exists.

[woffsta]

that does all sound very promising. Especially like the increased penalties for quitters. thats something thats needed. I sick of seeing people with really high ranks quitting all the time. You just think did you earn that or just quit every time you were losing?

[Codehead]

Well, that confirms that hit detection is client side. Still don't understand how it's so badly broken.

[Shin Akuma]

Can someone tell what is hit detection on client side. Great news shotgun getting sorted. will the chainsaw will be sorted as well or is it only for respawning areas.

[Codehead]

GoW1 used server side hit detection.

When you fired, your console told the host that you'd fired, then the host decided whether you'd hit anything based on the position information from you and all the other clients and sent the results back to you. Hence the delay between firing and hiting things.

With client side hit detection, when you fire, your 360 decides if you've hit, and informs the host. This should be a much better system, (but it is open to cheating). However, for some reason it just doen't work very well in GoW2.

Most of Epic's games have been server side, but client side was high on the wish list for improvements to GoW1. Careful what you wish for eh?

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by woffsta

that does all sound very promising. Especially like the increased penalties for quitters. thats something thats needed. I sick of seeing people with really high ranks quitting all the time. You just think did you earn that or just quit every time you were losing?

Increased penalties for quitters sounds like a good idea especially for the rank whores but there are many reasons why it could go badly wrong. If Epic manage to fix the terrible lag and other MMing problems then fine but if they don't fix those problems then hmmmm. So...if someone ends up in a lag-fest because the MMing put them in there then why on earth should they be punished simply for not wanting to be a bullet-bag for the whole game

I'll wait for the reaction to the patch before I decide whether to pick Gears 2 up again.

[kopchoir]

it cant be as awesome as me but its a start i suppose

[Codehead]

[kopchoir]

you said it bitch

Cant wait for the patch should be good fix the lag then happy days

[woffsta]

Originally Posted by Gazelle

Increased penalties for quitters sounds like a good idea especially for the rank whores but there are many reasons why it could go badly wrong. If Epic manage to fix the terrible lag and other MMing problems then fine but if they don't fix those problems then hmmmm. So...if someone ends up in a lag-fest because the MMing put them in there then why on earth should they be punished simply for not wanting to be a bullet-bag for the whole game

I'll wait for the reaction to the patch before I decide whether to pick Gears 2 up again.

I know what you mean. Just played two games in a row where I got paired up on a team of 3 versus 5. PLayed the first one and got anhilated but as soon as saw the second one I just quit in the lobby. Thought about it then. My mate told me thats the way that the Halo works though you lose ranks even if you lose connection. I may be completely wrong there as dont play it. Guess its which is the better of two evils.

[Shin Akuma]

Originally Posted by woffsta

I know what you mean. Just played two games in a row where I got paired up on a team of 3 versus 5. PLayed the first one and got anhilated but as soon as saw the second one I just quit in the lobby. Thought about it then. My mate told me thats the way that the Halo works though you lose ranks even if you lose connection. I may be completely wrong there as dont play it. Guess its which is the better of two evils.

if you quit the match while it is not started then as far as I know it doesn't effect your record as that doesn't even shows up on the record I don't know if it effects the rank I doubt it will. I have played so many match with 1 or 2 players short and 8 out of 10 you will lose the match if your team is short of player, I personaly think I should have left those matchs where I was on 1 or 2 man short side as there is very little joy in it.