[Gazelle]

"I haven't seen anything about it yet, but as of last night Joe modified the firing rate to match the faster Gears 1 rate.

We've talked about a great deal of the points made by the constructive posters in the shotgun mechanics thread and have generally came to a consensus on about 8 things we're interested in improving.

Now, before shotgun lovers change their underwear, I am NOT saying we're committing to those further changes... just that we've had our internal discussions and are in favor of some tweaks. We're in varying states of looking into technical issues, design discussions, and how they could be delivered if they prove out in testing.

The firing rate change is simply one that's an easy change, so it could happen right off the bat, and Joe had it online within hours of our discussions.

Please don't ask us about the specifics of our other hopes yet... if we improve other things you'll hear about it here from Joe, Rod, or I.


We really want to say thanks to the people who've given constructive analysis in the shotty thread, the playlist thread, the tactical event feedback thread, and the polls related to those. You guys provided some great insight.


If you haven't read the shotgun mechanics thread, and it's something of interest to you, I recommend skimming it before chiming in with your thoughts on things to tweak. That thread is over 250 pages now and covers a vast array of technical issues and logic behind various decisions.

http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/sho...d.php?t=708277

Despite the size of that existing thread though, if you have additional thoughts on the matter, please post it there. The thread you're reading now will not be stickied, as it will inevitably end up containing a mountain of thoughts that have already been discussed there."



I haven't tried it yet but the consensus on the Epic forum is that no one can notice any change in ROF.

[kopchoir]

Oh dear yet another we messed up gears2 and we are trying to give it a gears1 feel

It would be best to open up gears of war 1 again give us some DLC new maps some new weapons and a few new playlists they can charge what they want for it as i would pay it.

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by kopchoir

Oh dear yet another we messed up gears2 and we are trying to give it a gears1 feel

It would be best to open up gears of war 1 again give us some DLC new maps some new weapons and a few new playlists they can charge what they want for it as i would pay it.

Couldn't agree more

These gameplay tweaks wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Gears 2 fell out of the top ten games played on Live would it?

Funny how Epic now seem to want to embrace what people are saying on their forums. Only a year too late.

[RenaultSport]

bring back the two-peice i say!

[Gazelle]

So, everyone says they can't tell that the ROF on the shotgun has changed and low and behold this appears in the thread on the Epic forums from Lee Perry:

"Update, sorry, we've had a technical issue we're sorting out. Currently it's very slightly faster than it was, but is not at Gears 1 speeds yet. I'll post more when we have more to post Apologize for jumping the gun... so to speak."
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[jason g]

while the shotgun rate would be nice, i would still like the removal of smoke grenade stun, and the option to choose which map we want.

im not playing gears 2 until i can play a map i want instead of voting for it, after all i bought the maps it should be my choice, most people drop out of games because they don't want the map that has been voted.

[Shin Akuma]

I haven't seen any difference yet about shotgun.

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by jason g

while the shotgun rate would be nice, i would still like the removal of smoke grenade stun, and the option to choose which map we want.

im not playing gears 2 until i can play a map i want instead of voting for it, after all i bought the maps it should be my choice, most people drop out of games because they don't want the map that has been voted.

The smoke stun/cringe was removed a while ago and the game is better for it like we knew all along.

I know what you are saying about the maps but does MW2 allow you to play what map you want to in ranked?

Originally Posted by Shin Akuma

I haven't seen any difference yet about shotgun.

I don't think it has happened yet but it is imminent.

[Tetlee]

Originally Posted by kopchoir

Oh dear yet another we messed up gears2 and we are trying to give it a gears1 feel

It would be best to open up gears of war 1 again give us some DLC new maps some new weapons and a few new playlists they can charge what they want for it as i would pay it.

Amen to that, was only talking with the missus a couple of nights ago about how I miss the old GoW(1) days and it saddens me that we'll likely never return to those golden days again(game name tarnised for many fans, too many other quality games stealing the regulars etc.).

Originally Posted by Gazelle

Funny how Epic now seem to want to embrace what people are saying on their forums. Only a year too late.

Indeed, you really do get the impression that Epic are starting to realise that maybe the people that had actually been playing the game solid for best part of two years were right all along. Too little too late very true, a big shame as it is improving, but too slowly and so many people have now moved on and forgotten all about Gears

Originally Posted by jason g

while the shotgun rate would be nice, i would still like the removal of smoke grenade stun, and the option to choose which map we want.

im not playing gears 2 until i can play a map i want instead of voting for it, after all i bought the maps it should be my choice, most people drop out of games because they don't want the map that has been voted.

Would love to see these improvements also, one thing I do feel with the recent(desperate) efforts by Epic is that maybe there is hope for the next Gears, hopefully less arrogance and more awareness of what the players(rather than Cliffy B and co.) actually enjoy

[Gazelle]

Here is a video of the new Gnasher rate of fire. How it should have been from the off. So Epic have now reverted the shotty to a Gears 1 version and have also removed the ragdoll and then the later cringe effect from the smokes. I wonder how many people got banned from their forums for asking for these changes? Shame on you Epic.


YouTube - New Gears Of War 2 Faster Gnasher FireRate as of (10-12-2009)

[kopchoir]

Originally Posted by Gazelle

I wonder how many people got banned from their forums for asking for these changes? Shame on you Epic.

I got banned

5 times

I know a cool song with the start of them lyrics but thats all istanbullhsit now

[kopchoir]

Just played a couple of games but the lag was that bad could not tell
maybe we should get the old crew back for a tester session

[Crovon]

I bought gears 2, 3 times. I have just traded it in and I wont be buying it again.

They had the chance to sort this game out a long time ago, but they were too bloody minded and arrogant to accept that they ruined what was a great mp game.

This is just an attempt to get the old school back playing again, trouble is weve all had enough of it now. Over 3 million regulars played Gears 1 constantly for 2 years and less than half of that play it occasionally now.

Says it all really

[Crovon]

Originally Posted by kopchoir

Just played a couple of games but the lag was that bad could not tell
maybe we should get the old crew back for a tester session

Another reason why gears 2 sucks - the american favoured lag.

[Sniper Ash6]

Originally Posted by kopchoir

Just played a couple of games but the lag was that bad could not tell
maybe we should get the old crew back for a tester session

Im happy on MW2 at the moment. Maybe we can get a game going again tonight like the other week?

[jason g]

Originally Posted by Gazelle

I know what you are saying about the maps but does MW2 allow you to play what map you want to in ranked?

no, but gears 1 used to, u could select say execution, then pick a map, say war machine, and this was on ranked or private, there's no reason they cannot do the same on gears 2, games like submission are impossible to do on maps like river so u need to play certain games on certain maps.

@so there is now no stun effect with smoke grenades? should make submission better then because people just used to throw the grenades in to make u lose the grip on the meatflag.

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by jason g

no, but gears 1 used to, u could select say execution, then pick a map, say war machine, and this was on ranked or private, there's no reason they cannot do the same on gears 2, games like submission are impossible to do on maps like river so u need to play certain games on certain maps.

@so there is now no stun effect with smoke grenades? should make submission better then because people just used to throw the grenades in to make u lose the grip on the meatflag.

Yeah I know and agree that the Gears 1 system was superior. The introduction of matchmaking, and a later add-on of a ranking system, has brought about the way things are now.

Yep, the stun affect has now gone from the smokes.

[Gazelle]

Originally Posted by kopchoir

I got banned

5 times

I know a cool song with the start of them lyrics but thats all istanbullhsit now

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