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[coggs]

Is it possible to play mkv via the network (nas) as I dont seem to be able to.

[terryb]

>>There's no point in ftping (is that a word ) from the HD FOX T2 to a PC as everthing it records is encrypted. <<

You would use it to FTP JPEGs and MP3.... the former I plan to do next Saturday since it saves pulling out the drive and fiddling about. I'm hoping it's supported. I've been using it for that on the HDR.

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by terryb

>>There's no point in ftping (is that a word ) from the HD FOX T2 to a PC as everthing it records is encrypted. <<

You would use it to FTP JPEGs and MP3.... the former I plan to do next Saturday since it saves pulling out the drive and fiddling about. I'm hoping it's supported. I've been using it for that on the HDR.

Once again you fail to read my posts, I said there is no point in copying files from the HD FOX T2 to a PC, you cannot do anything with them. You can use a second drive with a hub to replay content. Just why you would want to if you have HDR FOX T2 defeats me, You can replay content stored on the HDR FOX T2 irrespective of what the HDR FOX T2 is doing on the it's primary display. Do you have some sort of vendetta against my postings, so far all you have posted is rude ignorant and offensive in the extreme.

As far as playing back jpegs and mp3's are concerned why bother if you have a HDR FOX T2 ?

Not one of these can compare to the picture quality and response using a decent photo editor like Photoshop to crop photos to 16:9 and resize to 1920 x 1080. Even better use a quality video editing package to create a HD slide show with background music and transitions plus titles in full HD and 5.1 AC3 audio. Maybe that's beyond your expertise

[Gavtech]

Gentlemen, please show mutual respect and respect for fellow members and refrain from personal comments.

Thank you.

[terryb]

Originally Posted by Gavtech

Gentlemen, please show mutual respect and respect for fellow members and refrain from personal comments.

Thank you.

Exactly.

Did I not say that you can write JPEGs and MPEGs - it's what I've been doing for the last 5 days. Weddings, Grandchildren, Mother's getting excited and the need to FTP the JPEGs onto her box so she can view the happy occasion from tropical islands far away and reception on a big screen that any 92 year old would want, laptop are so not it too her, the combined viewing experience around a TV is it.

Given the lack of USB ports on the T2 model when the a drive is connected FTP is the answer if it works on the HD T2, it does on an HDR very well for the purpose of shipping JPEGs for viewing on the TV. Given she's 60 miles away, I haven't looked at the latest menu option on her box [I had a 60 minute turn round to get her to the reception in the UK] but assumed it would be the same as my HDR in this respect with the same upgrade serial number.

If someone can check this out for me, on the HDR menu under

Settings > System > Internet Setting

the forth line says

"FTP Server"

If it doesn't on the HD version then it won't support FTP, I'll need to take a hub with me to do the task and a memory stick to get the pictures onto the drive. Least I'm led to believe that will work.

On the wider issue of FTP if you read the HDR thread you can use FTP to ship out your files that pass of the USB port, that's just been confirmed after I asked. So FTP has it's use in that respect as well.

If FTP is available on the HD model then you get the port address of the LAN configuration, you need the forth line above since you need to enable FTP.

Then opening up the file manager, click the top file icon, clear out what's on the line, type in the port address, my instance:

ftp://192.168.1.101/

login humaxftp
password 0000

It remembers these and you are connected... that's assuming the Fox HD T2 has the mention of "FTP Server" in the setup of the latest release. You just file drag and drop between the two sources, but as mentioned the TS source on the units drive isn't much good until it gone through the processes to get it out via the USB port but for straight copying of material onto the drive, least on the HDR it's a very good painless method, saves unplugging and plugging in memory sticks and copying, you have it as just another network drive but FTPed.

Thanks.

Footnote:

You can FTP out from the USB connected drive on HDR as I had been told and that works, so it isn't that FTP is useless it just gives you a seamless connection from your arm chair.... what more does one want, that's assuming that the Fox T2 handles it, can some one check for me.

[BrianMW]

Originally Posted by terryb

If someone can check this out for me, on the HDR menu under

Settings > System > Internet Setting

the forth line says

"FTP Server"

If it doesn't on the HD version then it won't support FTP, I'll need to take a hub with me to do the task and a memory stick to get the pictures onto the drive. Least I'm led to believe that will work.

On the wider issue of FTP if you read the HDR thread you can use FTP to ship out your files that pass of the USB port, that's just been confirmed after I asked. So FTP has it's use in that respect as well.

If FTP is available on the HD model then you get the port address of the LAN configuration, you need the forth line above since you need to enable FTP.

Then opening up the file manager, click the top file icon, clear out what's on the line, type in the port address, my instance:

ftp://192.168.1.101/

login humaxftp
password 0000

I do not have the "FTP server" setting in my Humax HD-Fox T2, I have also tried to FTP access it with the credentials you mentioned and it isn't interested, I have tried using FileZilla, Transmission and even hitting it in a browser but no ball... maybe the cred's would be different on a different model anyway?

My Humax is up to date F/W wise... maybe someone else has had more luck?

[terryb]

Brian

No they would be the same, that's your IP address that the box uses as per the internet config screen. I think the give away is that you don't have the "FTP server" On/Off toggle, unless someone finds it hidden elsewhere. Think you HD T2 owners should campaign Humax for the FTP Server to be implemented since you got less ports than HDR owners. You do the copy out to the USB port then you can FTP the nice output across had it worked, which it does on the HDR variant.

Thanks if I don't hear any more I'll go armed to mothers with my memory stick and hub.... I had assumed that it was going to be on the HD T2 model as well. It is mine at mothers in any case so I do cover both bases.

Thanks for that, much obliged.

[grahamlthompson]

Continuing the AutoPadding issue. It's looking more and more likely this is the root cause of the shrinking epg problem. Using AR so far the epg is keeping up with recordings, using autopadding it does not appear to do so. Need a few more days to be sure. There is another post in another place from a user using AR that has recorded all the reservations after being in sby for more than 8 days.

Looking at my media list I spotted a recording that a autopad of -1 minute would have chopped 4 minutes off the beginning.

Camelot Channel 4 HD 16th July. Scheduled 21:00 - 22:00 Actual 20:55 duration 70 mins.

Incidentally having only one usb port on a HD FOX T2 isn't a problem as you can use a usb hub to connect more than 1 device.

[terryb]

Since we have mentioned Jpegs.... on the HDR I covered what the issues where in playing them. In the past people have complained about the delay in playing them with the twiddly wait bit. That is because you are asking the unit to remap what can be a detailed pixelled picture beyond HD into the HD component size on the fly each time you show them on the fly better to get them to HD quality before saying them. This takes out the delay.

Worse still the hdr and I suspect the hd model just won't play certain pictures without this process since the combination of pixels in the original and compression pops the ability of the unit to do it. So some pictures play at that resolution whilst others don't and you end up with a blank screen.

The unit doesn't spin to portrait either. So solution to all of this is to make your first set up. Spin the portraits in windows photo viewer and use your favourite photo suite to re-render the size to HD pixel or there abouts. Can use Picasso for this it free via the export utility but microsoft email to receipints also does it, so I found. You don't send it someone you just drag out of the email attachment the re-rendered photos.

If you carry out this process the pauses between pictures in the slide show go and it will reliably play Jpegs.

[TomDroid]

Hoping someone can help!
Got a Belkin USB hub (powered) and I connect my 320 GB HDD to it as well as my Edimax WiFi Dongle.
When I record now, the picture is all blocky & stuttering on playback. I can use the TV Portal ok, and the recording seems to happen ok, it's only during playback that it becomes an issue. Navigation around the HDD now that it is plugged into the hub is very slow now as well.
When used independantly of the hub, both are fine.

Do you think it's the hub or maybe a sub standard lead that was supplied with the hub?

Thanks Guru's!!

[terryb]

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

Continuing the AutoPadding issue. It's looking more and more likely this is the root cause of the shrinking epg problem. Using AR so far the epg is keeping up with recordings, using autopadding it does not appear to do so. Need a few more days to be sure. There is another post in another place from a user using AR that has recorded all the reservations after being in sby for more than 8 days.

Looking at my media list I spotted a recording that a autopad of -1 minute would have chopped 4 minutes off the beginning.

Camelot Channel 4 HD 16th July. Scheduled 21:00 - 22:00 Actual 20:55 duration 70 mins.

Incidentally having only one usb port on a HD FOX T2 isn't a problem as you can use a usb hub to connect more than 1 device.

Well funny enough I do record Camelot with manual padding of 1 and 2 minutes, series record. Came on 1 minute before. No problems. It the Hdr has the fix of booting up 3am must have picked up the changed schedule and just did what I expected of it. I.e. varied the time by 1 minute. Question is what time did the epg reflect the new start time since that is when the unit took the time from. If this was known at 3am the solution would have fixed it, if during the day, me having the box on allowed the epg to be updated.

[terryb]

Originally Posted by TomDroid

Hoping someone can help!
Got a Belkin USB hub (powered) and I connect my 320 GB HDD to it as well as my Edimax WiFi Dongle.
When I record now, the picture is all blocky & stuttering on playback. I can use the TV Portal ok, and the recording seems to happen ok, it's only during playback that it becomes an issue. Navigation around the HDD now that it is plugged into the hub is very slow now as well.
When used independantly of the hub, both are fine.

Do you think it's the hub or maybe a sub standard lead that was supplied with the hub?

Thanks Guru's!!

Doubt it's the leads that's always the retailers excuse to get you to spend more. Apart from swapping the ports around it will be the hub. WiFi interference from the dongle... have tried direct connection... other than that out of suggestions.

[TomDroid]

Cheers Terry,

I will remove the dongle & test the record. Swapping ports is a good shout, too.

Thanks

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by terryb

Well funny enough I do record Camelot with manual padding of 1 and 2 minutes, series record. Came on 1 minute before. No problems. It the Hdr has the fix of booting up 3am must have picked up the changed schedule and just did what I expected of it. I.e. varied the time by 1 minute. Question is what time did the epg reflect the new start time since that is when the unit took the time from. If this was known at 3am the solution would have fixed it, if during the day, me having the box on allowed the epg to be updated.

From the testing I have done so far it looks as if the epg is not refreshed overnight at all on the Humax Freeview HD boxes, it only appears to refresh the epg when booted and not recording (hence the issue with autopadding), so had your box not been on it would at a guess have failed to pick up the beginning. In your case the workaround will refresh the epg so it's probably a good thing to do anyway. Which won't help Auto Padding users not aware of the issue.

It's quite easy to test, disable your overnight scheduled wake up. Schedule an autopadding reservation. Tommorow before booting the box remove the aerial. Now look at the epg I reckon you will be missing a day at the end, repeat for a 2nd night and you will be two days down. Using accurate recording gives an opportunity for the epg to refresh. Not certain yet if a single recording will give a long enough period to pick up the extra day at the end, I will have a better idea tomorrow as my epg today is missing data after 01:30 a week on Monday as of today. I have single recording set tonight New Tricks, it will be interesting to see if the epg has collected enough data to allow the episode in a weeks time to be rescheduled following recording.

By the way although ftp doesn't appear to work on the HD FOX T2 there is a modified .hdf that will give telnet access. Details on a thread on Hummy.TV.

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by TomDroid

Hoping someone can help!
Got a Belkin USB hub (powered) and I connect my 320 GB HDD to it as well as my Edimax WiFi Dongle.
When I record now, the picture is all blocky & stuttering on playback. I can use the TV Portal ok, and the recording seems to happen ok, it's only during playback that it becomes an issue. Navigation around the HDD now that it is plugged into the hub is very slow now as well.
When used independantly of the hub, both are fine.

Do you think it's the hub or maybe a sub standard lead that was supplied with the hub?

Thanks Guru's!!

Seen a similar issue posted before after the firmware upgrade. A factory reset sorted it out for that poster.

[TomDroid]

Thanks Graham, will give it a try.
Am I right in thinking that the factory reset is the tiny hole under the flap at the front?
Will I have to re install the new firmware after a factory reset?

Cheers

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by TomDroid

Thanks Graham, will give it a try.
Am I right in thinking that the factory reset is the tiny hole under the flap at the front?
Will I have to re install the new firmware after a factory reset?

Cheers

No it's an option in the menus. You won't have to install the new firmware you will have to re-enter your recording schedules and change any changes you may have made to the defaults - Like enabling time shifting for instance.

[terryb]

No if that button works that is a reboot, a factory reset is executed from inside the installation memory, just clears out the memory, user settings etc, but will boot to the latest software. Did occur to me whether the USB hub you have could have been "old stock", if it's not marked up as USB 2.0, that would be an issue i.e. 1.0, but I suspect it's not that, but I do know some internet retailer were flogging these, so it could be that.

[BrianMW]

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

No it's an option in the menus. You won't have to install the new firmware you will have to re-enter your recording schedules and change any changes you may have made to the defaults - Like enabling time shifting for instance.

Do you still have to re-enter the recording schedules if you do a channel rescan since the new F/W's? Always thought that was a pain

[whatpassword]

Originally Posted by BrianMW

Do you still have to re-enter the recording schedules if you do a channel rescan since the new F/W's? Always thought that was a pain

Yes. This was fixed on other Humax products such as the Foxsat HDR. I hope this is fixed soon.

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by BrianMW

Do you still have to re-enter the recording schedules if you do a channel rescan since the new F/W's? Always thought that was a pain

As it happens yes you do. But the advice was to do a factory reset. This takes the box back effectively to the as delivered condition (The current firmware won't be affected). This will always ditch everything even if the current problem with a channel scan is fixed.

[terryb]

I'd put an 80 percent probability of a factory reset not fixing it myself unless it get's new settings of how to do it's time division multiplexing between tasks which would what it would be if it fixed it, other than getting people to say which hubs they use which work well and go for a new one. With sat equipment I have had to use daisy chain hubs to fix issues where the software in the box didn't give enough time delay for the box to boot up for reading from it - I got two in on a multisat at the minute since removing one brings the problems back - I've been working with this daisy chain for five years now. This was recommended and worked as a fix by the German Clarke Tech 5000 users that found the issue and solution, so hubs can be good as well as bad. The one they loved was the Logitech H-UD5. I can recommend that one in general terms - will see how well it works next Saturday on the Fox T2.

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by terryb

I'd put an 80 percent probability of a factory reset not fixing it myself unless it get's new settings of how to do it's time division multiplexing between tasks which would what it would be if it fixed it, other than getting people to say which hubs they use which work well and go for a new one. With sat equipment I have had to use daisy chain hubs to fix issues where the software in the box didn't give enough time delay for the box to boot up for reading from it - I got two in on a multisat at the minute since removing one brings the problems back - I've been working with this daisy chain for five years now. This was recommended and worked as a fix by the German Clarke Tech 5000 users that found the issue and solution, so hubs can be good as well as bad. The one they loved was the Logitech H-UD5. I can recommend that one in general terms - will see how well it works next Saturday on the Fox T2.

The genuine Humax Wifi Dongle works without issue with a hub on the HD FOX T2. Using other kit is bound to be a bit of a lottery.

[coggs]

Sometimes when I come into the room and look at the HD Fox T2 it has chasing snake display next to the red standby light.
If I try to turn it on nothing happens, this stays like this until I unplug from the mains.
When I plug back in and try again all is fine, any ideas.

[grahamlthompson]

Hopefully last but one post in the shrinking epg saga

With aerial out this morning, New Tricks recorded (AR) and schedule updated to next episode 25th July. Additional day of epg data now in the epg.

I have restored autopadding (+/-5MINS) and added a series reservation for tonights Richard Hammonds programme BBC1 HD 21:00 - 22:00. I imagine that tommorow I will find a 70 min recording, a scheduled entry that has failed to update and no extra epg data added.

[TomDroid]

Originally Posted by terryb

Doubt it's the leads that's always the retailers excuse to get you to spend more. Apart from swapping the ports around it will be the hub. WiFi interference from the dongle... have tried direct connection... other than that out of suggestions.

Top marks, Terryb! Moved the WiFi dongle away from the HDD, tested it out last night, and bingo bango bongo! Works like a dream!
Thanks for the advice!

[surv1v0r]

I have two HD-Fox T2s. On one I have a 320GB LaCie USB HDD; on the other I have a 1TB WD Elements USB HDD.

On both, I have been able to record without problem, I get a message like this:

Record the whole series
Record the whole programme
Reminder

Cancel

and choose whichever "record" option is appropriate.

I have now bought a new 1TB WD Elements USB HDD to replace the 320GB LaCie and formatted it using the Humax.

Sadly, the two "record" options seem to be inaccessible with the new drive - does anyone have any idea to why and what I can do about it?

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by surv1v0r

I have two HD-Fox T2s. On one I have a 320GB LaCie USB HDD; on the other I have a 1TB WD Elements USB HDD.

On both, I have been able to record without problem, I get a message like this:and choose whichever "record" option is appropriate.

I have now bought a new 1TB WD Elements USB HDD to replace the 320GB LaCie and formatted it using the Humax.

Sadly, the two "record" options seem to be inaccessible with the new drive - does anyone have any idea to why and what I can do about it?

You have to do things, first let the HD FOX format the drive, next select this drive as the recording drive, this is probably the step you have omitted.

[surv1v0r]

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

You have to do things, first let the HD FOX format the drive, next select this drive as the recording drive, this is probably the step you have omitted.

I have certainly done the former, but probably not the latter. The HD-Fox T2 is certainly aware of the presence of the new drive and reports that it has 900GB+ available on it.

How do I select the new drive as the recording drive? I don't remember this step in the past, although it may be automatic first time around?

Further to this, is it possible to connect two drives at the same (using a powered USB hub) and to select to which you wish to record?