[Monster900]

Having just had a telling off from the boss for making her series link on channel 5 fail I have removed the channel editor.

[adrianf36]

The current version of the channel editor performs a complete replacement of the channel data on the first boot of each day. Therefore, any updates received during housekeeping will be removed. You need to add channel 5 back in by doing a freesat tune and then create a new ....update.fcl file using the channel editor utility. That should get everything back working again.

[Monster900]

All back working again, but after a discussion here we decided that the channel editor didn't confer a significant benefit.

We only had the red button channels made available as separate channels but if the downside is failed recordings when channel changes occur then it's not worth it. I can record red button channels on my old Manhattan receiver if need be.

Just out of interest is there a command which gives you a list of running processes?

[adrianf36]

The command "ps" will show all running processes. There are likely to be a lot. you can use 'grep' to filter the output. For example:

ps | grep -i epg

The "-i" flag does a case insensitive search of the results.

[Monster900]

Originally Posted by adrianf36

No worries. But still a bit confused.

The process you have just run manually should automatically be run every time you boot the Humax, and every hour thereafter whilst it's powered on.

I see from your output that the 'epg' process wasn't already running - which is odd, as it should be running continuously and checking for updated epg data on an hourly basis. So it must have previously bombed out for some reason.

The only circumstance I can think of therefore that would lead to the situation you had would be if your Humax was left switched on permanently and the continous (hourly) update had failed - which it seemed to have.

Just a warning though. If you do leave your Humax on 24hrs a day you will miss the daily housekeeping cycle (at 3am) which downloads the latest EPG data, updates Freesat channel lists, generates thumbnails for recordings etc. Your Humax must be in standby at 3am for the housekeeping activities to run.

Something does seem to be preventing the continuous (hourly) update.

Today's message at the bottom of the epg:

Displaying EPG Data from (Sat January 28 2012 14:45). New EPG data exists (Sun January 29 2012 03:02).
New data will be processed at next scheduled run time (within the hour). Reboot to process now.

HDR was switched off overnight and booted up this morning at 08:00. Despite channel 5 being restored on the box it still hasn't reappeared on the webif epg. C5 does appear in the HDR guide and is selected in the webif channel list. However, if I click on the C5 link in the webif channel list I get

No information available for Service ID 6335

epg.db datestamp is 28/01/2012 20:44, which is when I ran dumpsql again to try to bring C5 back onto the epg.

Thanks in advance again.

[Monster900]

I think I've found the answer to the above.

All answers are here if one looks hard enough.

[mrmarky]

Is it possible to do search for example.... all the movies or display all the game shows ?

cheers

[adrianf36]

Originally Posted by mrmarky

Is it possible to do search for example.... all the movies or display all the game shows ?

Hi mrmarky,

Unfortunately not. A search by program genre was in the original T2 Freeview web interface that was ported to the Foxsat HDR but it ran so slowly on the Foxsat that I'm afraid I took it out. Compared to the T2 the Foxsat is a very under powered device and it simply struggled to churn through the 32,000+ EPG entries and return all the entries for a specific genre in anything approaching a reasonable amount of time.

Sorry about that. We could put this back in but it really isn't usable. If there's a big demand I'll consider its reinstatement.

[Monster900]

Sadly the view expressed in post #186 was unduly optimistic.

After upgrading Webif the situation in post #185 still exists.

All help gratefully received.

[maxlargo]

Originally Posted by adrianf36

Glad to hear it works on the icord too. Happy to let you have a copy of the source once it's been tidied up. It's a new area of development for us driven by some forthcoming projects. Might be a week or so before I can get it to you. Hope that's okay.

hi Adrian,

of course it's ok
meanwhile I uploaded some (alpha-quality, untidied) code I wrote a while back trying to get the icord HD to shut down and boot at a specific time.

Did not work out: the icord actually shuts down. but it is more like a hard crash without waking up at the specified time. One has to use the power button to start icord again. The device won't start again on its own.

Max

https://github.com/maxlargo/icord_hd_ttyS64

[adrianf36]

Originally Posted by Monster900

Sadly the view expressed in post #186 was unduly optimistic.

After upgrading Webif the situation in post #185 still exists.

All help gratefully received.

Hi,

Given that the EPG utility ran okay when you ran it from the command line I would think that something has got messed up with the custom startup script that kicks this off on every boot.

You should have a file in the /opt/etc/init.d directory called "S72epg". that should have executable permissions for the root user (you could do a "chmod 755 /opt/etc/init.d/S72epg" in telnet just to make sure).

Failing that you'd need to re-install the EPG package. This is tricky though as the Web Interface is dependent on it so you can't do it via the package management page in the Web Interface. You can force an uninstall and re-install from the command line (telnet) though if you need to.

Let me know if the startup file is still there or if changing/correcting the permissions on it helps at all. If not we can go through the process of a forced uninstall/reinstall.

Regards,

Adrian.

[Monster900]

S72epg, 1.0kb, exists.

Telnet gives

Connected to 192.168.0.2.
Escape character is '^]'.
Foxsat-HDR~# chmod 755 /opt/etc/init.d/S72epg
Foxsat-HDR~#

If I run the 'ps' command there doesn't seem to be an epg service running even after doing the above.

If I run "/opt/bin/epg dumpsqlcont" that seems to get things going but only until I turn off to standby, then its back to square one.

Essentially the epg update doesn't seem to initialise on start up and seems to have completely lost C5 since the epg re-alignment.

Thanks for the assistance.

[debitcardmayhem]

Hi monster mine is like this

Foxsat-HDR~# ls -l /opt/etc/init.d
total 44
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 214 Sep 22 10:31 S49USB
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 325 Aug 30 15:16 S50utelnetd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 780 Aug 29 22:43 S51tinyftp
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 190 Aug 22 19:28 S60samba
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 199 Aug 31 11:32 S61twonkymedia
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 505 Oct 10 18:54 S63mongoose
-rwxr--r-- 1 root root 1075 Dec 13 16:23 S72epg
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 513 Sep 22 15:28 USBdisks
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 589 Jan 1 2000 rcS
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 202 Aug 22 19:28 samba.sh
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 350 Aug 31 11:36 twonkymedia.sh
Foxsat-HDR~#
Foxsat-HDR~# ps -ef | grep epg
260 root 0:00 [S72epg]
474 root 3:24 /opt/bin/epg dumpsqlcont
1062 root 0:00 grep epg
Foxsat-HDR~#

Don't know if this helps

[adrianf36]

Originally Posted by Monster900

S72epg, 1.0kb, exists.

.....

If I run the 'ps' command there doesn't seem to be an epg service running even after doing the above.

If I run "/opt/bin/epg dumpsqlcont" that seems to get things going but only until I turn off to standby, then its back to square one.

Essentially the epg update doesn't seem to initialise on start up and seems to have completely lost C5 since the epg re-alignment.

Thanks for the assistance.

Okay. Still seems a bit strange but one more thing to try then it's a re-install of the epg package. Your Channel 5 problem is one and the same. As well as kicking off the epg parser, the S72epg script also reads the current channel data into the database used by the Web Interface. If this isn't running for some reason then the channel data since adding Channel 5 back in won't have been loaded into the Web Interface database which is why it's missing from the Web Interface.

First thing to try is to lauch the startup script from the command line:

/opt/etc/init.d/S72epg start

See if any errors are produced. If so, let me know.

If not then you can force a re-install of the package with:

opkg --force-reinstall install epg

Let me know how you get on.

[Monster900]

Didn't seem to be working last night but is all back to normal this morning. Channel 5 found and epg reported as
:

Displaying EPG Data from (Wed February 1 2012 03:02). EPG Data is up to date.

Forced re-install not needed but, you never know, it may be useful one day.

Many thanks once again.

Edit: checked with 'ps' command and dumpsqlcont is running. All is well.

[stapldm]

Before I start with a 'me too' on my first post, can I just say how utterly awesome this new Firmware actually is; 'stunning' doesn't do it justice, Thank you all for all your hard work and for the commonly missing bit of any product, your most excellent support.

As for the me too, I currently have no problem thanks to the steps above but I thought my own info might aid in any future fix should it be required.

I found the above issues with my epg, which was 10 days out of date. I ran dumpsql which corrected it.

Then I used ps to see if dumpsqlcont was running.
It wasn't.
I rebooted.
It wasn't. So I started it.
Foxsat-HDR~# ps -ef | grep dump
906 root 0:00 grep dump
Foxsat-HDR~# /opt/etc/init.d/S72epg start
Foxsat-HDR~# ps -ef | grep dump
934 root 0:00 /opt/bin/epg dumpsqlcont
936 root 0:00 grep dump
I rebooted.
Foxsat-HDR~# ps -ef | grep dump
641 root 0:00 /opt/bin/epg dumpsqlcont
679 root 0:00 grep dump

It's running, and the new process IDs say it's rebooted properly.

So long made short it makes no sense, as it is obviously being executed during startup, why didn't the previous reboot when it wasn't running start it?

Not sure if it's helpful or not, but is food for thought.

Oh, and by the way I've also been getting the issue where the web guide suddenly isn't available on the fixed IP set in the Hummys main network setup screen. I now know why the fault occurs (though not why it happens). The hummy box is reverting to a dhcp provided address (next available, not always the same each time), and it seems it can happen at any time even when no activity occurring. A reboot reasserts the fixed IP.

I found this purely by accident from my dhcp logs. The webif is fully available at the new IP until the reboot.

I'm mentioning this here in case the sudden move from static IP to dhcp IP is a result of yet another service vanishing from the process list like dumpsqlcont did.

Next time it happens, is there anything you want me to do/log/change/capture?

Once again, a real big thanks for bringing the Foxsat from merely great to awesome

[Paj2011]

First of all a big thank you to the developers who have put in so much work in providing this application.

I have installed the latest version and all seems to be running ok but I have a problem. I was told that I could schedule a start and finish time on a FTA channel - namely from RTL, but cannot find a way to do that.

On the HDR I have created a group called "ASTRA1 19.2e" and rebooted but that is not loaded into the EPG on the computer. Presumably I have missed something but cannot work out what it is.

Could someone help me out please.

David

[adrianf36]

Originally Posted by Paj2011

First of all a big thank you to the developers who have put in so much work in providing this application.

I have installed the latest version and all seems to be running ok but I have a problem. I was told that I could schedule a start and finish time on a FTA channel - namely from RTL, but cannot find a way to do that.

On the HDR I have created a group called "ASTRA1 19.2e" and rebooted but that is not loaded into the EPG on the computer. Presumably I have missed something but cannot work out what it is.

Hi,

RTL is a non-freesat channel. EPG data is only available for Freesat channels. Non-Freesat channels carry now/next information but this is not processed by the Web Interface.

The automatic scheduling mechanism for Freesat channels (record series / record single program) is driven by the EPG data. Since there is no EPG data for non-Freesat channels you cannot set a recording this way for RTL. You would need to set a manual recording reservation via the Foxsat remote control/user interface itself. I also believe that you would need to leave your Foxsat in non-freesat mode when putting it in standby in order for this recording to work (unless you are using the Channel Editor functionality to mark RTL as a "Freesat" channel even though it's really a non-Freesat channel).

Hope that makes sense.

[Paj2011]

Originally Posted by adrianf36

Hi,

RTL is a non-freesat channel. EPG data is only available for Freesat channels. Non-Freesat channels carry now/next information but this is not processed by the Web Interface.

The automatic scheduling mechanism for Freesat channels (record series / record single program) is driven by the EPG data. Since there is no EPG data for non-Freesat channels you cannot set a recording this way for RTL. You would need to set a manual recording reservation via the Foxsat remote control/user interface itself. I also believe that you would need to leave your Foxsat in non-freesat mode when putting it in standby in order for this recording to work (unless you are using the Channel Editor functionality to mark RTL as a "Freesat" channel even though it's really a non-Freesat channel).

Hope that makes sense.

Thanks

I did realise that but was told with this software you could manually put in stop and start time on a specific channel instead of starting a recording and putting a length of recording as it is in the standard HDR.

At the moment I cannot see how to see the FTA channels which is why I made a group on the HDR hoping it would be uploaded but they are not.

David

[David500]

[QUOTE=Paj2011;16447436]I did realise that but was told with this software you could manually put in stop and start time on a specific channel instead of starting a recording and putting a length of recording as it is in the standard HDR.

At the moment I cannot see how to see the FTA channels which is why I made a group on the HDR hoping it would be uploaded but they are not./QUOTE]

As adrianf36 said non-freesat channel now/next info is not processed by the Webif EPGs, so the channels are not shown in the Webif EPGs.

On Webif the only place non-freesat channels are displayed is in the Webif Channel Lists.

The Webif Channel Groups are created in the Webif Channel Lists and not imported from the HDR.

[Questioner9]

Originally Posted by Paj2011

First of all a big thank you to the developers who have put in so much work in providing this application.

I have installed the latest version and all seems to be running ok but I have a problem. I was told that I could schedule a start and finish time on a FTA channel - namely from RTL, but cannot find a way to do that.

On the HDR I have created a group called "ASTRA1 19.2e" and rebooted but that is not loaded into the EPG on the computer. Presumably I have missed something but cannot work out what it is.

Could someone help me out please.

David

I think what you want to do is install the "Channel Editor" package form the repository and use the program to move RTL & other channels you want from non-freesat mode to freesat mode.
Then you can use the Humax TV interface (in freesat mode) to create a manual timed schedule for the channel.
There is documentation on the WebIf on how to use the Channel Editor - by David500 - or download here.

Although I think the may be a new Channel Editor in the works so it might be worth waiting for that.

[Paj2011]

Originally Posted by Questioner9

I think what you want to do is install the "Channel Editor" package form the repository and use the program to move RTL & other channels you want from non-freesat mode to freesat mode.
Then you can use the Humax TV interface (in freesat mode) to create a manual timed schedule for the channel.
There is documentation on the WebIf on how to use the Channel Editor - by David500 - or download here.

Although I think the may be a new Channel Editor in the works so it might be worth waiting for that.

Thanks to you both for the replies.

I do have the Channel Editor installed but do not know how to access it. I assumed that it would come up on the web page but there is no sign of it. All the other apps are there. I am not using IE so don't know if that makes a difference.

Tried removing it and re-installing and rebooting the HDR but no difference.

[David500]

Originally Posted by Paj2011

Thanks to you both for the replies.

I do have the Channel Editor installed but do not know how to access it. I assumed that it would come up on the web page but there is no sign of it. All the other apps are there. I am not using IE so don't know if that makes a difference.

Tried removing it and re-installing and rebooting the HDR but no difference.

As Questioner9 said there is documentation.

On the Webif home page goto "• Documentation - FAQs, ReadMe Files, Manuals etc." at the bottom of the page and then on the next page "• Channel Editor Guide".

[Maximumbaz]

Please excuse the off topic query but I'm at the end of my tether trying to work this out and thought this may be the best place to get some expert help.

I have a strange problem since changing my router.

I can see all the files on my Foxsat-HDR using the Web Interface v2.5 via my browser but the Foxsat doesn't show in Windows Explorer unless I cold boot it and restart the PC, it then shows in Windows Explorer.

If I go back to my other router it shows straight away.

I seem to recall a similar problem before that was caused by the Workgroup name but the Humax and all PC's are in the same Workgroup. Can anyone here suggest a a possible cause of this problem?

[REPASSAC]

Originally Posted by Maximumbaz

Please excuse the off topic query but I'm at the end of my tether trying to work this out and thought this may be the best place to get some expert help.

I have a strange problem since changing my router.

I can see all the files on my Foxsat-HDR using the Web Interface v2.5 via my browser but the Foxsat doesn't show in Windows Explorer unless I cold boot it and restart the PC, it then shows in Windows Explorer.

If I go back to my other router it shows straight away.

I seem to recall a similar problem before that was caused by the Workgroup name but the Humax and all PC's are in the same Workgroup. Can anyone here suggest a a possible cause of this problem?

Try manually mapping a network drive to \\FOXSAT-HDR\Media (you can also use the IP address in place of FOXSAT-HDR).

[Maximumbaz]

Hi Repassac and thanks for the reply.

I'm afraid that doesn't work, I get the following:-

windows cannot access \\FOXSAT-HDR\Media

error code 0x80004005
unspecified error

[REPASSAC]

Originally Posted by Maximumbaz

Hi Repassac and thanks for the reply.

I'm afraid that doesn't work, I get the following:-

windows cannot access \\FOXSAT-HDR\Media

error code 0x80004005
unspecified error

Thats is an unusual message - if the path was not found I would expect "0x80007035 The network path was not found."
You get the same result with the HDR's ip? (check it first on the HDR).

[Paj2011]

Originally Posted by REPASSAC

Try manually mapping a network drive to \\FOXSAT-HDR\Media (you can also use the IP address in place of FOXSAT-HDR).

Thanks for that tip. Putting in the LAN address has solved that problem for me.

[adrianf36]

Hi Everyone,

I'm pleased to announce that version 2.61 of the Web Interface is now available for download. This is primarily a bug fix release but does include some new and improved features.

A release note will be available in the documentation pages after download which describes the release and provides full credits. A few names should be mentioned here though:

Thanks to raydon, Partridge and REPASSAC for testing and providing feedback. Thanks to David500 for new and updated channel icons. Thanks to onyx for testing the new version of the reservation utility and to nathanlock and raydon for the new feature to view jpg files (as recently posted on these forums).

Okay, so highlights of this release are:

1. Bug fix for scheduling Radio recordings via the Web Interface
   
2. Bug fix for scheduling of split recordings via the Web Interface
   
3. A new, optional Toolbar to enable direct navigation between screens
   
4. Forced refresh of EPG screens after successfully setting a recording in order to display the recording icon
   
5. Improved EPG 7-day navigation and display options
   
6. Updated and new Channel Icons
   
7. Ability to view jpg files from the Media Details popup
   
8. Minor other fixes and updates

You can download this release by following the usual procedure of clicking the "Update package list from Internet" button in the "Package Management" screen and then visiting the Upgrades tab. Upgrading the Web Interface package should also upgrade the EPG package which is a dependency ..... if not, the EPG package should also be installed separately.

Hope you like the new and improved features.

Regards,

Adrian.

[Monster900]

Just upgraded.

More awesome work from the team.

Many thanks.