[tonycooling]

Hi All,
I'm after getting iplayer on my Humax PVR, but the problem is, I don't want to run wires to my router, so can Humax PVR be connected wirelessly to the router? If so, how is it done, can anyone recommend which kit to buy and generally point me in the right direction please?

Cheers
Tony

[tintin123]

You can use an access point such as this

Belkin G Wireless Range Extender/Access Point - Ebuyer

[tonycooling]

So do I just connect it to the PC, set its IP address up, then isconnect it from the PC and connect it straight into the back of the Humax PVR?

[tintin123]

That's basically it. I've not setup one myself, but reading the comments that seems to be it. I have my router by the tv console so xbox and humax are cabled and PCs connect wirelessly.

Note that these devices can be used in a number of ways. You can plug them into a non-wireless router to create a wireless network, use them as a repeater to extend the range of an existing network, or just turn a non wireless device into a wireless receiver/device.

[Interceptor121]

The best answer can only be given once I know what router you have.

I have iplayer working through a Buffalo Nfiniti WirelessN bridge it is the best device for this type of job. I connect also my Apple Tv on it and works great
However if in your home you only have a G network then this would be overspec and a lynksys G bridge would work as good as for half the price

[tonycooling]

Buffalo AirStation Nfiniti WHR-G300N Wireless-N Router & USB Bundle - Ebuyer

Is this the one?

I the router is a BT home hub N spec

[Interceptor121]

No is this one

Buffalo Technology - Nfiniti Wireless-N Dual Band Ethernet Converter | Buffalo

You need a self standing unit not a USB key

If your router is in N mode only you will get very good speed with this more than enough for iPlayer

once you will start using iplayer you will see that the picture quality is acceptable but in my opinion not outstanding
And there is no HD

[tonycooling]

Buffalo AirStation Nfiniti Wireless-N Dual Band Ethernet Converter - Ebuyer

Sorted.....hope its easy to set up

[Interceptor121]

First time you need to connect it to your computer to put the wireless network password
From then on once the box is there you just forget it exists...

[ciaran2506]

Originally Posted by Interceptor121

No is this one

Buffalo Technology - Nfiniti Wireless-N Dual Band Ethernet Converter | Buffalo

You need a self standing unit not a USB key

If your router is in N mode only you will get very good speed with this more than enough for iPlayer

once you will start using iplayer you will see that the picture quality is acceptable but in my opinion not outstanding
And there is no HD

Not necessarily, the speed you have depends on your line speed. For example I have a G/ 54mbps router but only get speeds of up to 3mbps so I only use 3mbps. A N router is only useful for LAN setups

[Interceptor121]

Withouth going into too many details there are many things that influence your streaming. Considering that he has an N network is pointless to get a G in his case
It is true that the internet speed certainly is the most important factor but there is also latency.
A G network does not really run at 54 mbits and an N network does not run at 300 mbits either. So why settle for less?
Latency is also much worst on some low quality devices such as those adapters you put in power plugs (shocking crap)
I have two wireless networks and if I use the G I get much more buffering with internet streaming and besides it does not take much time if you have few devices connected to clog the wireless LAN of a G network
Better to spend £20 more and have solid future proof performance furthermore with a G device maybe he had to run a mixed mode network which is always a bad thing

[grahamlthompson]

The easiest way and the method recommended by Humax is to use a pair of homeplug adaptors to use the mains to carry the signals.

[Interceptor121]

That is certainly the easiest way but for £20 pounds difference and having an N wireless network it is best to preserve what you have and go for max speed and no occasional stutterings

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by Interceptor121

That is certainly the easiest way but for £20 pounds difference and having an N wireless network it is best to preserve what you have and go for max speed and no occasional stutterings

What stuttering I have used a pair to transmit 1080p from a desktop server to a PS3 and also BBCiplayer HD (720p) in flawless quality. They would have no problem with Freesat iplayer's lower datarate

[ciaran2506]

Originally Posted by Interceptor121

That is certainly the easiest way but for £20 pounds difference and having an N wireless network it is best to preserve what you have and go for max speed and no occasional stutterings

Homeplugs are a great idea and I use them myself without any problems. Wired connections will always be faster than wireless

[Interceptor121]

Originally Posted by ciaran2506

Homeplugs are a great idea and I use them myself without any problems. Wired connections will always be faster than wireless

By wired connection I am sure you don't mean the home plugs as those are max 85 mbit while wireless N is 300 mbit

Having a wire into the router is best especially to help with drying buffers but it is also messy.

Also the Buffalo device I have recommended has got 4 ethernet ports which is bullet proof for any future expansion of your home cinema system

I see those plugs as an option only if you have thick walls or no wireless network coverage where is the TV

[ciaran2506]

Originally Posted by Interceptor121

By wired connection I am sure you don't mean the home plugs as those are max 85 mbit while wireless N is 300 mbit

Having a wire into the router is best especially to help with drying buffers but it is also messy.

Also the Buffalo device I have recommended has got 4 ethernet ports which is bullet proof for any future expansion of your home cinema system

I see those plugs as an option only if you have thick walls or no wireless network coverage where is the TV

Homeplugs come in two types, 85mbps and 200mbps. As you said earlier about not getting the full 54mbps of a G router, you dont get the full 300mbps of a N router either

[Interceptor121]

For sure. But those devices do not compete on speed they are for different needs.

If you have a TV, a game console with ethernet, a pvr-receiver with ethernet and you are covered by your wireless LAN you would definitely look at a bridge

If instead the issue is that you do not have a wireless LAN then you would look at the plugs

A wireless bridge with 4 ports is the default choice if your wireless lan works well and you need the option to expand

Home plugs are really for a single isolated device where your wireless network is out of range or you know you never will need any other ports (which I doubt is the case) that is why they are recommended by HUMAX for example. No support problems later

I would also agree that the plugs are more suitable to the average TV user than a bridge which appeals more to gamers and people with other media needs

[ciaran2506]

Originally Posted by Interceptor121

For sure. But those devices do not compete on speed they are for different needs.

If you have a TV, a game console with ethernet, a pvr-receiver with ethernet and you are covered by your wireless LAN you would definitely look at a bridge

If instead the issue is that you do not have a wireless LAN then you would look at the plugs

A wireless bridge with 4 ports is the default choice if your wireless lan works well and you need the option to expand

Home plugs are really for a single isolated device where your wireless network is out of range or you know you never will need any other ports (which I doubt is the case) that is why they are recommended by HUMAX for example. No support problems later

I would also agree that the plugs are more suitable to the average TV user than a bridge which appeals more to gamers and people with other media needs

I use homeplugs that have 3 ports to one plug and it works fine for the Foxsat HDR, Xbox 360 and Blu-ray player. The OP seems to have already chosen a N bridge anyway

[Interceptor121]

How much are those?

[ciaran2506]

Originally Posted by Interceptor121

How much are those?

A quick look online shows they are about £40, forgotten what I paid.
Image here: http://images.trustedreviews.com/ima...9-IMG0933s.jpg

[Interceptor121]

Not bad for 3 ports. Still a 4 port bridge is more flexible and more performing but I see where you are coming from especially with low IT literate users

[ciaran2506]

Originally Posted by Interceptor121

Not bad for 3 ports. Still a 4 port bridge is more flexible and more performing but I see where you are coming from especially with low IT literate users

Yeah I guess it just depends on how many devices you use and how good you are with computers and networking

[Interceptor121]

If you have a crap wireless network probably using the power it is also more reliable for things like gaming

[jlearmonth]

Have you completely ruled out hardwired ?
A suitable length of cat5 from ebay and a small 10/100 hub would give you proper connection and more remote ports.
Just hide it all under the carpet !
Don't forget to get it with connectors unless you can fit your own.

[Interceptor121]

Absolutely not a CAT5/6 cabling is the best choice always as thre real speed is more than all those adapter but I assumed the OP could not run a cable

My personal preference
1. CAT5 Ethernet cable (with a switch if you need more than 1 port)
2. Wireless N Bridge (if you have a good N network)
3. HomePlugs (maybe number one if you cannot run a cable and do not have wireless N)
4. Wireless G Bridge

Option 2/4 will appeal the more IT literate user while 1/3 are physical implementation really.
You can understand why HUMAX would recommend 3: no wires, no set up just plug and play, stable and solid performance, no wifes angry at cables being run and if you buy a good not cheap homeplug you can probably do HD streaming too
1,2,3 you cab stream HD content safe
4 could do it barely and I do not believe is good enough for XBOX online type of gaming

[ciaran2506]

Originally Posted by Interceptor121

Absolutely not a CAT5/6 cabling is the best choice always as thre real speed is more than all those adapter but I assumed the OP could not run a cable

My personal preference
1. CAT5 Ethernet cable (with a switch if you need more than 1 port)
2. Wireless N Bridge (if you have a good N network)
3. HomePlugs (maybe number one if you cannot run a cable and do not have wireless N)
4. Wireless G Bridge

Option 2/4 will appeal the more IT literate user while 1/3 are physical implementation really.
You can understand why HUMAX would recommend 3: no wires, no set up just plug and play, stable and solid performance, no wifes angry at cables being run and if you buy a good not cheap homeplug you can probably do HD streaming too
1,2,3 you cab stream HD content safe
4 could do it barely and I do not believe is good enough for XBOX online type of gaming

Indeed the OP said in his first post that he didn't want to run wires. A cheap pair (£35) of home-plugs are able to stream HD content to a friend of mines Humax HD box, no problem. Also a 'G' XBOX wireless adapter works fine for online gaming, I know because I had one myself

[Interceptor121]

If the question was how do I connect my Tv cheap probably the answer was home plugs £35 but the question is:
Can Humax PVR connected to a wireless network and the correct answer is
Yes it can and as the op has N network capabilities is now getting an N bridge which is the most natural thing

G network will work I did not say it would not but is stretched and definitely not scalable and not powerful enough if one day the is streaming from the LAN

But the main reason is that he has a N network if he puts a G device he needs to run the whole network in mixed mode at lower speed which is not ideal

Plus in 2010 you do not buy a G device by default

Some people like cheap some other like performance

I am for performance so as the OP was given suggestion of a G device I recommended an N. He got a Buffalo Wireless B for £53 which is a super product and fully scalable maybe he could have got a 3 port home plug for £45 but why settle for less for £8?