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The Ainsworth, Stowe Street, Lichfield scammers

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Old 03-11-2009, 2:21 PM   #1
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Exclamation The Ainsworth, Stowe Street, Lichfield scammers
[Latest update 11/11/2010: The group of 10 Lichfield (and surrounding area) based people arrested in relation to the large scale scamming of people on Gumtree, AVForums and elsewhere are still out on bail while the CPS builds its case. Despite having been arrested and out on bail, they continue to scam people here and on Gumtree.]

Note : we are referring to them as the Ainsworth scammers as that is the name used more than any other in email addresses and on the phone. Until proven guilty, everyone is presumed innocent.

Recently a particularly nasty group of young individuals have been registering with login names similar to traders with goods for sale in our classified forums.
They have been finding people who had made offers on the goods but had been turned down by the trader.
They have then been sending private messages to these people pretending to be the original trader. In the PMs they stated that they had changed their mind, agreed to the offer and asked for payment.
Five people on AVForums have been taken in by this scam and sent a bank transfer. Several people on other websites including Gumtree have been defrauded also. We are assisting the police in securing a prosecution.
So far we have been able to ban all the existing and new accounts by this scammer.
But we ask that you please *always* follow our trading guidelines and in particular, do not, under any circumstances, negotiate or agree trades by private message.
I will be adding all the information we have about these people in this thread. We will be trying to uncover as much information about them as possible.
Thanks go to the moderators for helping to identify and deal with this scammer

If you believe that you have been the victim of these frauds...take the following action

1 : Inform your bank immediately and ask if there is anything they can do to help you.

2 : Report the matter to your local police who can make some initial enquiries with the bank in question and establish where, geographically the account holder lives. Your force will then pass the complaint directly to the police force that covers that area. It is they that will investigate your complaint.

3 : When you know which force is dealing with your complaint......ring them and get the name of the officer who is dealing with your investigation and also the unique crime reference number for your investigation. They should then keep you updated as regards their actions.


How to recognise this scam. The scammers:
  • Often advertising an iPhone (usually on Gumtree adverts)
  • Only want payment by bank transfer - they don't do Paypal
  • Are looking for a quick payment
  • Invite you to pay on collection but know you live too far to travel
  • If you express doubts they offer to take some in advance and the rest on delivery
  • Often give Stowe Stree, Lichfield as their address
  • Upon request of proof of identity give excuses
If you spot any of these patterns, be very careful.

The bank accounts used to defraud people are:
Sort CodeAccount numberDetails
53-70-1532119550Nat West, 47 Market Street, Lichfield, WS13 6YB
53-70-1573669733Nat West, 47 Market Street, Lichfield, WS13 6YB
30-71-9842624560Lloyds TSB, 22 Conduit Street, Lichfield, Staffordshire Ws13 6JS
30-71-9844014960Lloyds TSB, 22 Conduit Street, Lichfield, Staffordshire Ws13 6JS
11-00-0107078159Halifax, PO Box 548, Leeds LS1 1WU
11-00-0107852314Halifax, PO Box 548, Leeds LS1 1WU
11-03-2400260752Halifax, Lichfield
20-85-1383826775Barclays Bank, Tamworth Business Centre, 24 Middle Entry, Tamworth B79 7N
40-39-1201405284HSBC, City Office, 49 Corn Street, Bristol, BS99 7PP
60-24-7973586935Nat West
05-09-4257815216Yorkshire Bank, 3 George St, Tamworth, Staffs., B79 7LA
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Re: Beware the scammer
Here are some of the registrations this person has created as of 28th November:
(Note that the login names he/she created are very similar to genuine members, but with a dot or comma on the end - this is how he/she is trying to defraud - by masquerading as a genuine member).
Login nameIP addressIP resolves toAccount EmailRegisteredLast activityInformation
Mark.N12390.208.87.77Sky broadband Lichfieldgumtree.home15@googlemail.com30/10/2009 19:0530/10/2009 23:06 
mlh.90.212.240.65Sky broadband Lichfieldgumtree.home14@googlemail.com30/10/2009 21:0131/10/2009 00:32Posing as mlh, requested £255 from inferno and £270 from DeepDish. Name Mark Newton
iphone4u90.219.16.85Sky broadband Lichfieldgumtree.home13@googlemail.com30/10/2009 23:3931/10/2009 00:38Requested £340 from richiej, dropped price to £270
RobertPaulson.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilbecky.ainsworth1969@googlemail.com31/10/2009 15:2331/10/2009 15:38Posing as RobertPaulson, defrauded £100 from spendec. Address given as 56 Stowe Street, Lichfield, Staffordshire, WS13 6AQ. Name Robert Paulson
clamicpo1.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilbecky.ainsworth1978@yahoo.co.uk31/10/2009 15:3902/11/2009 09:49Posing as clamicpo1, requested £350 from paddylogan and also £1100 from Deadz. Name Mark Newton
avf2.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilmark.n123@live.co.uk02/11/2009 09:5102/11/2009 10:08Posing as avf, requested £100 from bigbaz
paulski.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilainsworthbecky@yahoo.co.uk02/11/2009 10:1802/11/2009 10:37 
paulski,193.25.116.40Staffs Councilmark.123456@live.co.uk02/11/2009 10:2402/11/2009 11:01Posing as paulski, requested £800 from Gregorski. Said was with Natwest. Mobile: 07933014235. 48 Stowe Street, Lichfield, Staffordshire. WS13 6AQ
shea.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilkyle.123456@hotmail.co.uk02/11/2009 10:3602/11/2009 10:54Posing as shea, ccepted offer of £70 from LindseyD
JTD21.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilkyle.1234567@live.co.uk02/11/2009 11:2502/11/2009 11:56Posing as JDT21, accepted offer of £450 from sk23005. Alternative email address given Mark.N123@live.co.uk. Mobile number given 07933014235
HinchleyGrinch.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilkyle.1234567@hotmail.co.uk02/11/2009 11:3302/11/2009 11:57Posing as HinchleyGrinch, accepted offer of £100 from klamath
chrisfairc16.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilkyle.123456@yahoo.co.uk02/11/2009 12:2102/11/2009 12:40Posing as chrisfairc16, defrauded Telephant out of £675. Name Chris Faulke
callahan.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilbecky.ainsworth1972@yahoo.co.uk02/11/2009 12:4802/11/2009 12:56Posing as callahan, accepted offer of £630 from fab914
becky.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilbecky_school1970@yahoo.co.uk02/11/2009 13:1802/11/2009 14:35 
markymiles.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilbecky_school1971@yahoo.co.uk02/11/2009 14:4802/11/2009 15:11Posing as markymiles, acceped offer of £570 from Advocate86
3804.193.25.116.40Staffs Councilbecky_school1@yahoo.co.uk02/11/2009 15:5502/11/2009 16:07Posing as 3804, acceped offer of £275 from Techie_89
hdiam.212.183.134.129Vodaphonebecky_becky123@yahoo.co.uk02/11/2009 23:0002/11/2009 23:18Posing as hdiam, accepted an offer from Spa
Accylad.212.183.134.129Vodaphonejamie-4321@live.co.uk02/11/2009 23:4803/11/2009 02:49Posing as Accylad, accepted an offer from gaz12 for £180. When questioned by a moderator, was defiant and unrepentant
mrspoons.212.183.134.129Vodaphonejamie-54321@live.co.uk03/11/2009 01:1303/11/2009 01:42Posing as mrspoons, requested a bank transfer of £160 from theADDict
thattallchap.94.116.16.79Cloud networkbecky.school@yahoo.co.uk03/11/2009 11:5703/11/2009 12:23Posing as thattallchap, contacted josh5674 accepting his offer and asking for a quick payment by bank transfer
GOLFATHER76.94.116.16.79Cloud networkbeckybeckybecky111@yahoo.co.uk03/11/2009 12:3103/11/2009 12:41Posing as GOLFATHER, £350 by bank transfer from Spy
Tom.Stanly,193.25.116.40Staffs Councilbecky.becky123@live.co.uk03/11/2009 15:2703/11/2009 15:49Posing as Tom.Stanly, accepted offer of £350 from buckas
keeny1979.212.183.140.18Cloud networkjason-1978@live.co.uk03/11/2009 15:4203/11/2009 15:51Posing as keeny1979, acceped offer of £400 from db1234
wack.94.116.16.79Cloud networkgumtree.sales@hotmail.co.uk03/11/2009 17:0103/11/2009 17:33Posing as wack, contact ynot wanting payment by bank transfer
TooDark.79.76.35.50Tiscali Lichfieldavforums@hushmail.com03/11/2009 20:5903/11/2009 21:25Posing as TooDark, contacted sprice accepting £60
selfaddict.79.76.35.50Tiscali Lichfieldself.addict123@googlemail.com03/11/2009 22:4303/11/2009 22:51Posing as selfaddict, contacted KelvinS1965 accepting £450.
ginoworm.76.73.42.202FDC Servers America (anonymous proxy?)Email changed to admin@avforums.com11/11/2009 00:5911/01/2009 01:33Posing as ginoworm, asked for money from NiKha
Sajan123.66.90.73.246FDCserversmark.newton12345@googlemail.com11/11/2009 13:4411/11/2009 13:46 
JustinL.76.73.42.202FDC Servers America (anonymous proxy?)kyleatkinson2008@hotmail.co.uk12/11/2009 13:1512/11/2009 13:27Posing as JustinL, asked from money for bobinski
oglyndwr.76.73.42.202FDC Servers America (anonymous proxy?)kyleatkinson@hotmail.co.uk12/11/2009 18:4512/11/2009 18:50Posing as oglyndwr, asked for £185 from paulefox
hypernova.149.254.49.35T-Mobilejonesmary4040@googlemail.com21/11/2009 17:2921/11/2009 18:13Posing as hypernova, requested £200 from p1tse and £800 from bairdyboy1980
awink1.149.254.49.35T-Mobilejonesmary8080@googlemail.com21/11/2009 17:4521/11/2009 18:14 
jacksmith89886.171.82.234/237BT (BTCentralPlus)jacksmth898@googlemail.com23/11/2009 22:4927/11/2009 07:41Defrauded JONNO-2009 out of £350 and send additional PMs gloating about it. i scammed you, you ****ING retard, youve been done in by the GREAT, "SafeG"
p1tse.66.90.104.63FDCserversav.forums@live.co.uk24/11/2009 21:2624/11/2009 21:46Posing as p1tse, requested £180 from jamescarter1981
jacksmith898.79.76.108.103Tiscali Cannockforumsav@yahoo.co.uk24/11/2009 23:2625/11/2009 00:41Used this account in conjunction with the jacksmith898 account to successfully fool a buyer into believing the jacksmith898 account was genuine.
SIB01.79.76.125.142Tiscali Cannockavforums@mail.com25/11/2009 11:3825/11/2009 12:10Posing as SIB01, requested £435 from jeff127
scatman133786.171.82.234BT (BTCentralPlus)scatman1337@googlemail.com25/11/2009 20:2525/11/2009 02:36Tried to do deals with nashi, mightymouse04 and bairdyboy1980
Beamer.79.76.58.5Tiscali Walsalljason.cooke123@googlemail.com25/11/2009 21:5525/11/2009 22:39Posing as Beamer, requested £3,750 from gaza916, £325 from uretsai, £325 from fragger, £350 from snow-munki and £400 from asup85
nightic.79.76.98.222Tiscali Swadlincoteav.forums1@live.co.uk26/11/2009 01:1726/11/2009 02:57Pretended to 'expose' another account of his as a scammer and then asked mightymouse04 for money
rebelpj24205.79.76.118.228Tiscali Cannocktester12304@live.co.uk26/11/2009 11:0926/11/2009 11:31Posing as rebelp24205, asked for £230 from asup85
Mark123.79.76.118.228Tiscali Cannockav_forums@yahoo.co.uk26/11/2009 12:2826/11/2009 12:30 
Mark123,79.76.118.228Tiscali Cannockforums_av@yahoo.co.uk26/11/2009 12:3126/11/2009 12:32 
Mark123'79.76.118.228Tiscali Cannockavforym@live.co.uk26/11/2009 12:3526/11/2009 12:38Posing as Mark123, asked for £580 from SIB01
Foogie.79.76.118.228Tiscali Cannockjason.gumtree1@live.co.uk26/11/2009 15:0726/11/2009 15:11Posing as Foogie, asked for £70 from gareth_alien
gaza916.79.76.112.84Tiscali Cannockgum.123@live.co.uk27/11/2009 00:2527/11/2009 00:57Posing as gaza916, asked for £1,500 from ambervillewolf
steven76.79.76.112.84Tiscali Cannocksdkfjdk@live.co.uk27/11/2009 01:4827/11/2009 11:42 
itrader.79.76.112.84Tiscali Cannockdssfsfsdf@rocketmail.com27/11/2009 02:0427/11/2009 02:06 
rebelpj2425079.68.44.73Tiscali Sheffieldskjdfkj@live.co.uk27/11/2009 12:1527/11/2009 12:54 
treddes79.68.44.73Tiscali Sheffieldajkdj@mail.com27/11/2009 13:2127/11/2009 13:43Posing as tredders, asked for £235 from THE BOARS. Also talked to bdbod.
iinferno79.68.44.73Tiscali Sheffieldkjdjk@live.co.uk27/11/2009 14:2127/11/2009 15:02Inpersonating inferno asking for £260 from Super Andy H, £750 from Begonia and trying to strike a deal with edale
gavber79.68.44.73Tiscali Sheffielddan_the_man_@live.co.uk27/11/2009 17:1127/11/2009 18:07Pm'd ickeyboy asking for £210. User gavbeer had made an offer in the thread.
jonnyb12379.68.44.73Tiscali Sheffieldkjasdkjkjakjd@yahoo.co.uk27/11/2009 21:1528/11/2009 04:39Created 37 posts in the trading forums trying to pose as a legitimate member. Made a fake trade with ineedaphone and positive trading feedback left.
ineedaphone79.68.44.73Tiscali Sheffieldksdkfjdsfkj@yahoo.com27/11/2009 21:2727/11/2009 21:30Replied to to a For Sale thread created by jonnyb123 making an offer for a phone which was accepted. Positive trading feedback left.
jimmydoge79.68.44.73Tiscali Sheffieldsdfjj.jadj@yahoo.com28/11/2009 03:5328/11/2009 03:55Never activated account
jimmydogee79.68.44.73Tiscali Sheffieldjimmy.12382@yahoo.co.uk28/11/2009 03:5728/11/2009 03:58Never activated account
thecreditcrunch79.68.44.73Tiscali Sheffieldjason.123456@email.com28/11/2009 04:0028/11/2009 04:00Never activated account
Crysis94.76.204.100BlueConnex Ltdjason.c123@yahoo.co.uk28/11/2009 11:2428/11/2009 11:28 
JTDesign94.76.204.100BlueConnex LtdJason.Cooke123@yahoo.co.uk28/11/2009 11:3928/11/2009 11:48 


I have already contacted the police on the matter.
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This idiot continues to try his/her scam. While we have a mobile phone number and bank details (which I don't want to publish yet, but have been given to the police), if anyone has any idea who this person could be, please let us know.

Because we know this person is located in Lichfield, it is likely that the Cloud free wifi being used is in one of the following locations (these are the only cloud network locations in Lichfield at the time of the scam):

Fradley Arms
Rykneld Street
Lichfield WS13 8RD

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Innkeepers Lodge - Lichfield
Stafford Rd
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McDonald's - 1260 Lichfield Wall Island
Wall Island
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McDonald's - 209 Lichfield
12 Conduit Street
Lichfield WS13 6JR

The Acorn Inn
16-18 Tamworth Street
Lichfield WS13 6JJ

In the table above, the use of a Staffs Council IP address very likely means the scammer used Lichfield Library computers.
The timing of the posting means that the scammer used the library and then a few minutes later the cloud network. Note that the Gatehouse pub with free Cloud Network access is just a few minutes walk from Lichfield library.
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When the bank details go up would a permanant ban be put in place on Avforums if a couple of charitable donations were made

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Not quite sure what you mean or whether I should publish bank details, but let's not forget that it's quite possible that the scammer has stolen someone's identity and the person owning the bank account may not be the person responsible.
I think that's unlikely, though.
I'm surprised, actually, that more people have not offered to help identify this person. We'd appreciate the help of people with investigatory resources at their disposal at this point.
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Maybe if you sent out an official Avforums email to every member explaining the situation and that you would like to request any help in bringing the culprit to justice you may find you get the help you desire. At the moment this is a scene from Hitch Hikers Guide to The Galaxy....Beware of the Leopard
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So those who have been scammed were only done so by PM?
Sounds like asking for trouble.....if everyone reported unsolicited PM's to do with trades/sales then we wouldn't have this problem.

I hope someone on the forums can identify the culprit and he gets his just deserts.
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I work in Lichfield - we could set up a sting operation!!! (or have i been reading too much Jack Reacher latley )

seriously though - disgusting that anyone would try to con people in this way - especially as they are riding on the back of honest traders.

Not going to help here - but going forward.... can you not ask for postal address as part of the signup process to the site?? At least you have something on file for people like this....

also - why not do away with the use of disposable email addresses?? Im guessing that we all have home / work addresses we could use....
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I'm sure a very large number of users rely entirely on services like yahoo and gmail - banning these domains from registration would probably harm the sites take up of new members.
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I work in Lichfield - we could set up a sting operation!!! (or have i been reading too much Jack Reacher latley )

seriously though - disgusting that anyone would try to con people in this way - especially as they are riding on the back of honest traders.

Not going to help here - but going forward.... can you not ask for postal address as part of the signup process to the site?? At least you have something on file for people like this....

also - why not do away with the use of disposable email addresses?? Im guessing that we all have home / work addresses we could use....
thats too overboard. It reminds me of the OTT terror measures and how government bring **** in that ruins are lives.

I often use disposable email because I dont want all my details floating about willy nilly.
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Unofficially I have passed info on this incident onto a department within the bank that the account used in this particular scam is held.

I'm trying to be careful with my wording here, because while I do work within a fraud based role I'm not directly involved in this particular aspect (I'm a techie working on trojans etc etc) and I am also not officially representing the bank here. Just a long term member interested in helping if I can!

Anyway the contact that I defenitely don't have within the bank has requested that anyone who has been scammed by this individual to let the bank know via the online contact form on their website.

https://www.natwest.com/secure/globa...sonal_form.asp

This will be picked up and passed along to those investigating.

**Please Note I am not representing a bank here in an official capacity. I've merely mentioned something I've seen freely available on the Internet to someone I know. Yes I do also work there but I'm here in a personal capacity**
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I don't really know how people can help other than what is being done.

As Stu says it seems they're using untracable WiFi access points so can't access them that way, and either hacked or throw away email accounts.


The only things I can think of are to change the registration process so that nicknames that start or end in a punctuation mark are not allowed.

Also can a "fuzzy search" be done at registration for similar names, and if a match IS found an email / PM sent to mods and/or admins to notify them of a potential scammer?

Note that email/PM would not be sent to the person registering as I assume you'd want to then track their activities so the police could be sent straight to their door, also if the mods/admin had advanced notice a nice little sting could be set up with the assistance of the police.


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We are pretty much on top of things at the moment.
This person has given bank details and a mobile phone number.
Not 100% happy releasing those at this point.
I have been contacted by the police again today to keep me updated that the investigation is in the hands of the fraud investigation dept.
I'm confident that this person will be in custody soon. Still it would be nice to know their identity sooner rather than later so I can start a thread to alert the world of their activities. I.e. search for them on Google = find they are a scammer.
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You can tell by the Thanks above how appreciative everyone is, but I thought it worth stating that Stuart and the modding team's vigilance on this is commendable. It's one of the reasons I'd recommend using AVF over any other online trading site - the AVF team actually want to help when their members get shafted by crooks. Thanks again.
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We are pretty much on top of things at the moment.
This person has given bank details and a mobile phone number.
Not 100% happy releasing those at this point.
I have been contacted by the police again today to keep me updated that the investigation is in the hands of the fraud investigation dept.
I'm confident that this person will be in custody soon. Still it would be nice to know their identity sooner rather than later so I can start a thread to alert the world of their activities. I.e. search for them on Google = find they are a scammer.
Sounds like he/she will wish they never heard of AVF soon.
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Its true what someone posted earlier. ie if you will deal via PM's then you are asking for trouble and really do only have yourself to blame. So do I buy this tv in the open from said store or from the guy in the white van ? hmmmm
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I was in discussions with this person via PM when he was spotted online and his cockiness deserves a mention. He was so sure that he couldn't be caught that he came back again and again without realising that we were effortlessly watching his every move. How odd that since we revealed that he has been using the Cloud wifi hotspots in Lichfield pubs that he hasn't felt very thirsty today

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I think it's important to point out that this will have resulted in masses of hard work for the team at AVF, including the unpaid mods.

Many thanks for all your hard work.

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I was in discussions with this person via PM when he was spotted online and his cockiness deserves a mention. He was so sure that he couldn't be caught that he came back again and again without realising that we were effortlessly watching his every move. How odd that since we revealed that he has been using the Cloud wifi hotspots in Lichfield pubs that he hasn't felt very thirsty today

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Sounds like he does this all the time and get's away with it all the time.
I wonder how many other forums have been victim to this scab, and either didn't have the resources or time to track him.
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Trouble is now youve drove him underground (off the wi fi spots) the police may have a harder time finding him.
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Trouble is now youve drove him underground (off the wi fi spots) the police may have a harder time finding him.
Couldn't have revealed that until we were fairly sure that he'd let out enough rope for them to hang him with...
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Bit of a stupid question, but has anyone contacted staffs council? hide.staffordshire.gov.uk seems suspiciously like a proxy server....
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Couldn't have revealed that until we were fairly sure that he'd let out enough rope for them to hang him with...
so they have caught him then, they have him in custody?
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AFAIK, not yet.
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My thanks also to all the AVForums staff working in the background to make this a sfer place to trade - and to get this person his just deserves...however, is there any way that something can be put into place on the forums software to stop this happening again...ie - somebody registering with a very similar username to an already registered member?
Once bitten twice shy and all that...
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A simple trading ban for new members would help, as in a 50 post limit or there about before you can sell/buy on here. Not going to solve the problem but will stop some of the impatient fraudsters. (Example would be that trading forums are non viewable)As I have mentioned before, on a motorcycle forum I am a member of, we have a subscription system where you have to subscribe for a year for a small fee, it means paying with PayPal via credit card/bank card - this way AVF will have some details of the member/trader in the event of fraud.A number of people were not happy about this subscription system in the beginning including myself. Infact I was one of the most audible objectors after being a member since 2003 but in the end I gave in, and am quite happy that my contributions help the site, and I am also more confident at trading with newer members without any trader rating. I can't remember when the last time there was any fraudulent activity after the subscription system was introduced. The Largest Message Forum for the TL1000R and TL1000S
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Bit of a stupid question, but has anyone contacted staffs council? hide.staffordshire.gov.uk seems suspiciously like a proxy server....
It is most likely Lichfield library and yes, I have been speaking with the security team in the council. They are awaiting a form from the police to release the information they have. But they will be able to match the IP address with the dates and times of the fraudster's activity and hopefully get them via their library membership.
That is, of course, if it is needed since we have his/her bank details and mobile phone number.
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It is most likely Lichfield library and yes, I have been speaking with the security team in the council. They are awaiting a form from the police to release the information they have. But they will be able to match the IP address with the dates and times of the fraudster's activity and hopefully get them via their library membership.
That is, of course, if it is needed since we have his/her bank details and mobile phone number.
How serious do they consider this?


A small stretch certainly would be effective.
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It seems like a number of people looking at the email addresses, but it's that easy to make an email address with a fake name.
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