[Steven]

Fantastic quali!



To think Schuey crashing out early feels so long ago. Mercedes demonstrating why EJ awarded them a "D" for their pre-summer break efforts

Shame about Jenson and Di Resta. Good quali performance for Senna and Kovalainen

Full credit to Vettel for his pole lap. And have not even got to the other thing! We await the verdict of the stewards in eager anticipation

[hdsport]

Absolute chaos for the GP2 race at the moment. Entirely predictable of course.

[Citizen J]

Did Hamilton block Maldonado's quick lap?

Good qualifying but the same old story of Vettel at the front.

Hopefully it is a good race and Vettel doesn't just drive away.

[hdsport]

Originally Posted by Citizen J

Did Hamilton block Maldonado's quick lap?

No in my opinion he passed him clean at the bus stop (or what's left at least of that once great finish to the lap) by the time they crossed the line the session was over.

[Joe Pineapples]

Originally Posted by hdsport

No in my opinion he passed him clean

Yeah. Infact Maldonado was going so slow approaching that last corner (compared to Hamilton), I thought he was on an in-lap.

[majson83]

Originally Posted by hdsport

No in my opinion he passed him clean at the bus stop (or what's left at least of that once great finish to the lap) by the time they crossed the line the session was over.

Well he was next to him, not passed him but he had the racing line and more speed and maldanado should have known he was there.

But he may have felt as though Hamilton barges his way passed and he may have felt annoyed after Monaco but i guess we shall see.

If he did it on purpose then he shouldn't be allowed to race tomorrow or maybe even for a few races.

[HMHB]

If he did it on purpose then I'd ban him for a full season. You can't be messing about like that in F1 cars at any speed.

[hdsport]

Originally Posted by majson83

But he may have felt as though Hamilton barges his way passed and he may have felt annoyed after Monaco but i guess we shall see.

Well if that's the case he's got selective amnesia about his own weaving down the pit 'straight' at Monaco ahead of Hamilton before the accident.

What we want to see is Maldonado's on board (assuming it's available) to see if he's turning left as the track was bending right as they headed down the hill to Eau Rouge.

[Woodywizz]

Originally Posted by JohnG

If he did it on purpose then I'd ban him for a full season. You can't be messing about like that in F1 cars at any speed.

Agreed.......professional drivers should not be overcome with road rage.None of us would purposely crash into someone else, so - a professional driver - should not even think this.

If he did it intentionally then ban him for life...the tool.

What was the outcome of the stewards inquiry?

[hdsport]

Originally Posted by Woodywizz

a professional driver - should not even think this.

[cough] seven times world champion [cough]

[Surebrec]

F1 2011 - Spa - Onboard Hamilton when Maldonado Crashes into him (HD) - YouTube

[jonneymendoza]

Originally Posted by hdsport

[cough] seven times world champion [cough]

Exactly. All bashing ham and yet no mentioning the sheer crap shue done in the past. I agree that if ham did it on purpose he should be banned for a few races etc

[NooBish AbbZ 92]

Stewards invesigation - 5place grid penaltu for Maldonado, and a Reprimand for Hamilton???

[HMHB]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

Exactly. All bashing ham and yet no mentioning the sheer crap shue done in the past. I agree that if ham did it on purpose he should be banned for a few races etc

It's not Hamilton that did it and we were not bashing him, it was the other driver Maldonado who we are on about.

[jonneymendoza]

ahh i see. ok i am a hamilton fanboy, no denying that. just saying that if ham tried to crash into someone, he should be punished and would probably wont be such a huge fan of his after but as far as i know, he aint that type of person to do that

[jonneymendoza]

Originally Posted by NooBish AbbZ 92

Stewards invesigation - 5place grid penaltu for Maldonado, and a Reprimand for Hamilton???

what is a Repriman?

[hdsport]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

what is a Repriman?

A warning but apparently now (since Silverstone) 3 reprimands = a penalty. Assume though LH's earlier reprimands won't count or he'd already have his three strikes.

[NooBish AbbZ 92]

Originally Posted by hdsport

A warning but apparently now (since Silverstone) 3 reprimands = a penalty. Assume though LH's earlier reprimands won't count or he'd already have his three strikes.

I don't even get what he's been reprimanded for to be honest?

[Citizen J]

Well after watching the incident again a number of times and reading what the drivers had to say afterwards I find the judgement reached by the stewards very strange indeed. Maldonado got a five grid place penalty so clearly he was adjudged to have committed an offence, but I cannot see how this punishment is sufficient. Presumably if the telemetry showed something different to the TV pictures then he would not have got any sort of penalty at all. Extradorinary that this punishment is seen as sufficent.

What exactly was Hamilton reprimanded for? When Maldonado hit him my initial reaction was that he was on his quick lap and was aggrieved that Hamilton had not moved to the right hand side of the track, although this does not seem to be the case.

Hamilton seems to have accepted his reprimand for whatever it is. Really strange set of events.

[majson83]

Can only assume the stewards decided Hamilton didn't need to hit maldanado in his lap and have warned him for that? Or for swerving infront of maldanado just before the incident?

They are the only 2 things i can think of.

I would expect this one to go on though and have a further investigation once the weekend is over with possible further punishment for a certain Williams driver

[bekko]

*** only a 5 place grid penalty for dangerous driving like that :eek . He will just get in everyones way at the back of the grid now.

[alexs2]

Time to wait and see how it pans out.

Senna did a superb job yesterday,and if he backs that up in the race,it may well put rest to those who wondered why Heidfeld got the push.
F1,like any other top level motorsport,is an unforgiving world,and Heidfeld knows it,but his opportunities are now very few,and he should perhaps be looking at something like GT racing instead.

The incidents between Maldonado and LH have attracted the stewards attention for both of them,and LH simply got told off,whereas the other got off with perhaps less than he deserved....a single race ban might make more impression,but it's done now.

[plasma3d]

Think the outcome would of been very different if Hamilton had done the side swipe... Seems he get the full force of the rule book thrown at him for every little mistake whereas others get off with a slapped wrist

[jonneymendoza]

Originally Posted by NooBish AbbZ 92

I don't even get what he's been reprimanded for to be honest?

Like he said and quoted from ALI G,

its because i is ******

Jokes aside i think it was harsh. Ham done nothing wrong as far as i can see?

[alexs2]

Perhaps...the trouble now is that when a driver or rider gets a reputation,then it sticks,and is highlighted every time there is an incident of any kind.

LH's much publicised Ali G comment really didn't do him any favours at all though,but it has no real relevance to this,which was more a spat between him and Maldonado,who clearly was more to blame here.

Back in the good old days before Ron-speak and PC,this would have been settled with a bit of fisticuffs around the back of the motorhome.....anyone remember Mansell zipping Senna's overalls up to his nose and "talking" to him after one of their incidents?

[hdsport]

More rumours about Spa's future....

Belgium and France to share F1 race from 2013 | 2013 F1 calendar

Paul Ricard of course owned by a certain Bernard Charles Ecclestone. The Mistral Straight will make for an 'interesting' DRS zone.

EDIT and it wouldn't be F1 without some last minute manoeuvring pre-race

http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/08/28/t...nfolds-at-spa/

[Steven]

From the outside LH looks innocent but maybe the stewards saw a tiny bit of movement from their telemetry or maybe they thought the desperate means to eek out an extra lap rubbed the Williams driver up the wrong way

Good race so far with a lot of contact early on. Lewis' McLaren taking a while to warm up. Ferrari's trading blows. Rosberg's early pace predictably wore off and then he created a train behind him. Having a fast starting system is all well and good if you are not holding up the field every single race Mercedes!

Breathtaking pass from Webber on Alonso just now

[JimmyMac]

Did kobayashi really think he had the chance of going round the outside of Lewis there?

[NooBish AbbZ 92]

Originally Posted by jimmymac2213

Did kobayashi really think he had the chance of going round the outside of Lewis there?

Apparently so

Wheres Schumacher aswrll? Not heard much since yhe first lap

EDIT: Nvm :D Up to 9th lol

EDIT Again No further investigation of incident between Hamilton/Kobayashi

Thoughts of you guys?

[JimmyMac]

no investigation over the incident either...hmmmmmmm