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			<title>Is there no BBC I-Player on Sky?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:37:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Is there no BBC I-Player on Sky?  I've just had it installed at home and I can't find it? :(]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>MarysCross</dc:creator>
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			<title>NEW FLAT: SKY+ / FREEVIEW / BT Cabling possibilities</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:50:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Firstly, hello all, glad to be here :thumbsup: 
 
I have been browsing these forums for many years and never registered or posted, mainly because I always found everything I needed. Great forum thanks :grin: 
 
However I am in the process of renovating my flat and want to include POSSIBLE SKY+ /...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><font color="navy">Firstly, hello all, glad to be here :thumbsup:</font><br />
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<font color="navy">I have been browsing these forums for many years and never registered or posted, mainly because I always found everything I needed. Great forum thanks :grin:</font><br />
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<font color="navy">However I am in the process of renovating my flat and want to include POSSIBLE SKY+ / FREEVIEW / BT cables under the floor in all bedrooms and lounge. If you can bear with me I will detail my problem and perhaps you can help (hope I have the right forum!). It’s driving me nuts as I am getting really confused :confused:</font><br />
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<font color="navy">Ok so ...</font><br />
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<font color="navy"><b>Set up.</b> </font><ul><li><font color="navy">2nd story flat in block of 4, 4 bedrooms and 1 lounge</font></li>
<li><font color="navy">Freeview aerial and sky dish on roof, I LNB (I think). </font></li>
<li><font color="navy">Currently I have standard SKY installed in the lounge </font></li>
<li><font color="navy">BT master socket in Hall, connected to another master socket (not sure!) in lounge .</font></li>
<li><font color="navy">The cabling from both the freevew and SAT dish come down the external wall and into the lounge</font></li>
<li><font color="navy">Signal strength for Freeview, good (london)</font></li>
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<font color="navy"><b>What I desire</b></font><br />
<font color="navy">(As I am putting hardwood floors down I want to put possible cabling underneath first)</font><br />
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<font color="navy">All 4 bedrooms and lounge to have the possibility of having SKY+ and  FREEVIEW and a phone line. All these are independent from one another, so 5 separate phone numbers, 5 separate sky+ installations. I admit the chances of this happening are slim but I don’t know who will want what services and what room they are in.</font><br />
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<font color="navy"><b>My installation plan</b></font><br />
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<font color="navy"><font color="darkred"><b>Freeview:</b></font> </font><br />
<font color="navy">The cable from Freeview Aeriel to lounge already installed by me</font><br />
<font color="navy">Install a 4 WAY UHF/VHF splitter. Run 4 separate, WF100 cables to all 4 bedrooms. Therefore lounge has no Freeview access but 1 output cable can be changed over if need be. If signal strength is power, change splitter to powered one (no signal loss)</font><br />
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<font color="navy"><b><font color="darkred">SKY+ / SKY / SKY HD:</font></b> </font><br />
<font color="navy">Run 4 shotgun cables (or better still 8 WF100) from Lounge to 4 bedrooms. I would have to change the LNB and run extra cables down the external wall if someone actually wanted the SKY or SKY+ in their bedroom. That can be done anytime</font><br />
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<font color="navy"><font color="darkred"><b>Additional BT phone lines</b></font></font><br />
<font color="navy">Install 4 extra BT master sockets in hall so the can be connect by BT engineer at ant time. 1 there already so 5 in total</font><br />
<font color="navy">Run 5 extra phone cables from the 5 sockets in Hall to 5 new extension sockets (4 bedroom, 1 lounge). Use cable 2 pair 4 core</font><br />
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<font color="navy"><b>Outlet plates</b></font><br />
<font color="navy">This is confusing.</font><br />
<font color="navy">So in a bedroom I would have 3 sat cables and 1 phone cable. I would like to join these all to the one double socket. Would I just get a double face plate and box and connect each wire its corresponding module (i.e. 1 phone, 2, F plugs and 1 coaxial). I could of course join each to an individual socket.</font><br />
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<font color="navy"><b>Questions</b></font><ol style="list-style-type: decimal"><li><font color="navy">Is this plan ok? All thoughts welcome</font></li>
<li><font color="navy">Rather than getting modular sockets that slot in, can I get all this in one socket</font></li>
<li><font color="navy">Where would a Screened Socket Quadruplexed suffice? I see that they only take 2 sat cables.</font></li>
<li><font color="navy">I see SKY require a connection to a working phone line. Now if I connected a SKY box to the inactive phone connection, can I just connect the inactive master socket to active master socket, in the hall?</font></li>
<li><font color="navy">I have been looking at Labgear HDU641/S Home Distribution Unit 4-Way but don’t understand where this fits in?</font></li>
<li><font color="navy"> I mentioned 2 pair, 4 core phone cable; I have no clue if this is right</font></li>
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<font color="navy">Thanks all very much for reading my long post! :eek:</font></div>

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			<title>Sky equipment cover dilema</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:46:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Whatever your opinions on Sky equipment cover, this is not what the thread's about, but I've just done a DIY upgrade from standard Sky, to Sky+ and now find myself with a dilema regarding my equipment cover. 
 
In that my cover was set-up for my standard system, I'm now wondering whether or not to...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Whatever your opinions on Sky equipment cover, this is not what the thread's about, but I've just done a DIY upgrade from standard Sky, to Sky+ and now find myself with a dilema regarding my equipment cover.<br />
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In that my cover was set-up for my standard system, I'm now wondering whether or not to contact them and ask if I'm still covered, and what I need to do if not. The other alternative is to say nothing, because in my experience communication between the people you report the fault to on the telephone and the engineer that comes out is non-existent - why else would the engineer's first question when he gets to your house be, &quot;So, what's the problem?&quot; regardless of how much detail you went into on the telephone when you reported it?<br />
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Do you think it's worth risking keeping quiet, and hoping that in the event of having to call someone out, they'll just diagnose the problem and replace like for like (if a replacement is needed, of course)?</div>

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			<dc:creator>OurJud</dc:creator>
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			<title>Next channel shuffle?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:25:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know when Sky are planning to do the next "channel shuffle", i remember them doing one 1 or 2 years back i think it was but since then theirs now loads more major gaps between channels etc, and IMO another shuffle would be ideal around this time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Does anyone know when Sky are planning to do the next &quot;channel shuffle&quot;, i remember them doing one 1 or 2 years back i think it was but since then theirs now loads more major gaps between channels etc, and IMO another shuffle would be ideal around this time.</div>

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			<dc:creator>sonysean</dc:creator>
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			<title>Sky Dish for tv ??</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:08:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>hey there  
 
just wondering (without sounding to thick i hope) if a sky dish can be used to pick up tv stations using a free-view box (not free sat) 
 
a mate wants to use a dish to take camping so he can watch tv in the van  
 
i wasnt sure if its the right type of dish i guess it would work if...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>hey there <br />
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just wondering (without sounding to thick i hope) if a sky dish can be used to pick up tv stations using a free-view box (not free sat)<br />
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a mate wants to use a dish to take camping so he can watch tv in the van <br />
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i wasnt sure if its the right type of dish i guess it would work if he got a free sat box  but not on a free view one <br />
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cheers folks</div>

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			<title>how do i join a sky indoor arial lead</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:57:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>my arial lead was not working,so i cut the connector that u plug in 2 the back of the tv off. how do i join a new one,i,ve been told i need a special adaptor/conector,to join an arial lead can anyone help:hiya::clap::thumbsdow</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>my arial lead was not working,so i cut the connector that u plug in 2 the back of the tv off. how do i join a new one,i,ve been told i need a special adaptor/conector,to join an arial lead can anyone help:hiya::clap::thumbsdow</div>

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			<dc:creator>sylv6</dc:creator>
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			<title>panasonic sky box</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:54:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have recently noticed a "wobbly" picture effect on my Toshiba 20wlt56 lcd tv.It's like a slight wave going down the screen. This is probably a fault of the tv but could the sky box cause this sort of effect if it were faulty? My other set connected to the same dish is ok]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have recently noticed a &quot;wobbly&quot; picture effect on my Toshiba 20wlt56 lcd tv.It's like a slight wave going down the screen. This is probably a fault of the tv but could the sky box cause this sort of effect if it were faulty? My other set connected to the same dish is ok</div>

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			<dc:creator>r collison</dc:creator>
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			<title>Box not shutting down</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:26:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi everyone:hiya: 
   
 I recently moved a sky+ box up to the bedroom.Although I didnt have a problem before the box now does not want to shut down. 
 
The red light is showing but there is a noise coming from the box 24/7 
 
I have not got Anytime nor am I recording on this box which I know can...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone:hiya:<br />
  <br />
 I recently moved a sky+ box up to the bedroom.Although I didnt have a problem before the box now does not want to shut down.<br />
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The red light is showing but there is a noise coming from the box 24/7<br />
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I have not got Anytime nor am I recording on this box which I know can cause such problems<br />
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Please could someone help me:lease:<br />
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Best wishes  Sparkey123</div>

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			<dc:creator>sparkey123</dc:creator>
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			<title>Is there a Sky/Sky+ classified section???</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:28:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Had a quick look but cant see anything and am looking to sell a 5 month old Sky+ box.... 
  
ta</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Had a quick look but cant see anything and am looking to sell a 5 month old Sky+ box....<br />
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			<dc:creator>dayn</dc:creator>
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			<title>Part Rec. Technical fault - 11  ??</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:39:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone. 
  
Was recording itv last night (carpenters tribute - for my girlfriend i hasten to add).  it seemed to record ok, however when i checked later in planner it said "part rec - technical fault 11" 
  
I haven't had chance to watch it to see what happened, and it appears to have recorded...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone.<br />
 <br />
Was recording itv last night (carpenters tribute - for my girlfriend i hasten to add).  it seemed to record ok, however when i checked later in planner it said &quot;part rec - technical fault 11&quot;<br />
 <br />
I haven't had chance to watch it to see what happened, and it appears to have recorded the full duration (63 mins for a programme scheduled for 60 mins).<br />
Any idea what fault 11 is ?<br />
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I did record a couple of other progs last night to test and they were fine.<br />
Just curious, and wondered if anyone else experienced.<br />
Thanking you in advance.</div>

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			<dc:creator>MILO240968</dc:creator>
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			<title>Problem with Sky+ box how to backup programs that are stored on it</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:37:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I purchased a Sky+ box at the begining of November. 
 
Everytime I go to switch the box on by either pressing the power button on the front of the box or by using the remote control, the light on the front of the box flashes green (as if the box is switching on) but then immediately turns red,...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I purchased a Sky+ box at the begining of November.<br />
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Everytime I go to switch the box on by either pressing the power button on the front of the box or by using the remote control, the light on the front of the box flashes green (as if the box is switching on) but then immediately turns red, after this the Sky+ box will not switch on for a minute or two.<br />
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I have tried resetting by switching off at the power point for a minute and I have also checked for the latest software by holding in the back up button as I switch the power back on, but my software is up to date.<br />
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My main question is:<br />
<br />
I have been in contact with the place I purchased the Sky+ box from, but I am expecting that I may need a new box, so if this is the case I was wondering:<br />
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I have a number of programs recorded on my Sky+ box which I would like to back up to my PC and then once I get a new Sky+ box transfer these over to my new Sky+ box. But I would not be able to remove the hard drive from its caddie (which is inside the Sky+ box) as one of the screws has a sticker over it, which if removed voids the warranty. So I would need to be able to connect the hard drive up to my PC by removing the power and data cable but leaving the hard drive in place in the Sky+ box and then connecting up the same cables to it that are inside my PC.<br />
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Is there a way that I could connect the hard drive up to my PC and transfer the programs off of my Sky+ box and on to my PC's hard drive. If there is could someone provide me with instructions on how to do it please, I would really really appreciate it :)</div>

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			<dc:creator>Tal71</dc:creator>
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			<title>Upgraded To Sky HD, Want to use old box upstairs</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:22:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Everyone, I've just upgraded from a standard sky box to Sky HD, The Engineer has installed a quad LNB and I was going run an extra feed to my old sky box in my sons bedroom so he can use it to access the free channels on there. 
 
The question i would like to ask is that if I do this how do i...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi Everyone, I've just upgraded from a standard sky box to Sky HD, The Engineer has installed a quad LNB and I was going run an extra feed to my old sky box in my sons bedroom so he can use it to access the free channels on there.<br />
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The question i would like to ask is that if I do this how do i gain access to these free channels? I've got an old sky card (blue card with yellow house) which I was thinking I could just slot in and get the free channels, would this work or would I have to ring sky up for a freeview card?<br />
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Thanks in advance</div>

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			<dc:creator>digitaleyeuk</dc:creator>
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			<title>How to get Sky+ most cheaply?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:24:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi. 
  
I am a Sky subscriber at present but would like a Sky+ box but am not sure that the offer being made to get a Sky+ HD box with movies (both for 12 months) is the most cost-effective.  This seems to be £10pm for HD + Movies £? for 12 months + £30 installation. 
  
But a Sky+ box on its own...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi.<br />
 <br />
I am a Sky subscriber at present but would like a Sky+ box but am not sure that the offer being made to get a Sky+ HD box with movies (both for 12 months) is the most cost-effective.  This seems to be £10pm for HD + Movies £? for 12 months + £30 installation.<br />
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But a Sky+ box on its own apparently costs £200 ?plus installation.<br />
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All advice welcome!  :smashin:</div>

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			<dc:creator>gouldec</dc:creator>
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			<title>Audio sync issues on Pace Sky SD box</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:08:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have the analogue audio out from my Pace Sky SD box connected to my Denon AVR1509 surround amp. Sometimes (Swordfish tonight on Channel 5 is a case in point!) the audio via the amp lags behind the video. Direct audio via scart is fine. Does anyone know why this might happen? I watch Later.. with...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have the analogue audio out from my Pace Sky SD box connected to my Denon AVR1509 surround amp. Sometimes (Swordfish tonight on Channel 5 is a case in point!) the audio via the amp lags behind the video. Direct audio via scart is fine. Does anyone know why this might happen? I watch Later.. with Jools Holland via the amp each week and lip sync is spot on so I don't think it's the amp. Why should lip sync vary through the auido out jacks? And why are some channels different from others?<br />
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Thanks.</div>

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			<dc:creator>petet66</dc:creator>
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			<title>Cable layout advice for new build house</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:46:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi, 
I have just purchased a new build house and have to tell them what tv/sat points i want installed and where this weekend. I have no real technical knowledge i am afraid and wanted some advice on what wall boxes/wiring i should get put in to achieve the following: 
  
  
Lounge - sky plus...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
I have just purchased a new build house and have to tell them what tv/sat points i want installed and where this weekend. I have no real technical knowledge i am afraid and wanted some advice on what wall boxes/wiring i should get put in to achieve the following:<br />
 <br />
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Lounge - sky plus<br />
Bedroom 1 - sky plus (so therefore multiroom subscription on sky)<br />
bedrooms 2,3 and 4 - freesat (i think this is better option than freeview as otherwise i would have to get an aerial fitted aswell to get freeview instead)<br />
 <br />
 <br />
I know that each sky plus box will need 2 feeds from the dish (so that makes 4 feeds in total) but then didnt know how i could then get the freesat in other rooms as will have run out of feeds from the dish if it only has 4 inputs?<br />
 <br />
Can anybody help?<br />
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many thanks</div>

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