Upscaling and all that......hmmm maybe not

[Earlstreetblue]

At the moment I have a 32" Q321 LCD HDTV.

Connected to it are two DVD's.

One is a LiteOn DVD Recorder connected via Full Scart, and the other is a Sony DVPNS76H upscaling DVD Player via HDMI->DVI.

When I view the same DVD (Kill Bill 2) on both DVD's there is no difference in PQ?

What I want to know is could it be down to the £10 cable http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s...tml?CAB-HDDVI2 , or maybe the TV, and or the Sony?

Its hard knowing where to start looking.

Any help appreciated.

[Bat-man]

Originally Posted by Earlstreetblue

At the moment I have a 32" Q321 LCD HDTV.

...there is no difference in PQ?

A 32" set is fairly small. Could that also account for it?

[loz]

The significant picture processing that is going on in your TV is probably rendering any difference between the two sources inconsequential.

[Earlstreetblue]

The reason I ask is that others who have the same combo say that there is a marked difference. I would also expect to see some difference to using scart and Dvi, but again I don't.

[Johnkg]

I can't answer your question (yet!) but I would also like to know. My A321 is being repaired and I was not impressed at all with the Liteon 5005 picture thru Scart and didn't get the chance to try it through component.

I have just purchased a recon Philips 5900 (£25!) and through my CRT the picture seems a lot better than the Liteon (both thru scart).

When my A321 returns I will connect the Liteon (through component) and the 5900 through DVI->HDMI (first gen A321) and I'll post what I get...

[Earlstreetblue]

The LiteOn I have is the 5006, and connected to the Q321 it isn't too bad, on a par I would say when used with my Sony CRT. The trouble I have is when connecting my Sony DVPNS76H via the DVi connector, it doesn't look any different. I have also tried connecting the Sony to the Q321 via F-Scart, but no difference in PQ. Something isn't right, as I would expect some improvement at least via Dvi.

Have also been in touch with Novatech (where it was purchased) to see what they had to say, and they couldn't rule out the cable or the TV. So they are sending me another cable to try out tomorrow. Stay tuned.

[Johnkg]

Originally Posted by Earlstreetblue

Something isn't right, as I would expect some improvement at least via Dvi.

Are you able to try component? I'm hoping that'll be the solution (at least with the Liteon) to the somewhat poor quality I got through scart.

(I need my A321 back )

[Earlstreetblue]

Are you able to try component? I'm hoping that'll be the solution (at least with the Liteon) to the somewhat poor quality I got through scart.

Not yet, will try the other Dvi cable when it arrives, if that dosn't work, then I'll get some components and try those, over the next day or so.

I'm also wondering if running the scart lead through my router is having any effect, will check that also, although I doubt it.

[Earlstreetblue]

Back with more...

The replacement DVI cable came this am, tried it and still no joy. Spoke again to Novatech and explaned it all again, they are instant that the problem lies with the Sony player and not the TV. Havn't tried any components yet, as it seems the player isn't telling the TV to upscale, so wether using components will work, remains to be seen. By the way I am not sure that you can upscale using component leads, I thought I read somewhere on one of the threads that you carn't.

So now intouch with the Sony supplier to see if it can be exchanged etc.
Will also contact Sony to see if there is a problem with this player and TV combination that we are not aware of.

[Hippo04]

Originally Posted by Earlstreetblue

Back with more...

The replacement DVI cable came this am, tried it and still no joy. Spoke again to Novatech and explaned it all again, they are instant that the problem lies with the Sony player and not the TV. Havn't tried any components yet, as it seems the player isn't telling the TV to upscale, so wether using components will work, remains to be seen.

If the picture fills the screen then it's upscaled by either your DVD player or TV. I really think you're expecting too much here. Upscaling is no shortcut to high def happiness. The source is still standard definition DVD and it can't be transformed to high def by some upscaling magic. And as someone wrote earlier it's possible that your TV processes the picture so much that it's hard to tell any differences between scart and dvi.

[hottstuff]

I find upscaling , whether it be dvd or skyHD , to be poor and my 9830 does a better job displaying SD @ it's native 1920 x 1080 resolution.

[Earlstreetblue]

Update:
There does indeed appear to be a problem with this player, as it won't upscale from 576p. Even if I try and change it to a higher figure such as 720p or 1080i it still remains at 576p.

Have been in touch with Sony they say that what I describe is a deffinate player problem. So back it goes and wait for a replacement, or maybe another alternative, or is that asking too much.

[WGLOVER]

Originally Posted by Earlstreetblue

Update:
There does indeed appear to be a problem with this player, as it won't upscale from 576p. Even if I try and change it to a higher figure such as 720p or 1080i it still remains at 576p.

Have been in touch with Sony they say that what I describe is a deffinate player problem. So back it goes and wait for a replacement, or maybe another alternative, or is that asking too much.

I have the opposite.

Auto, 576 and 1080i all register as 1080i on my Panasonic, but show as they should on the Sony display.
720p registers correctly as 720p.

Not a problem as I use 720p.

Is this a fault with the Sony, anyone else?

[zAndy1]

Oh dear, what a mess eh, it doesn't seem likely it's a faulty player as at least 2 exhibit the same problem, so either this model doesn't upscale fullstop (anyone else able to confirm?) or the TV (Q321) is misreporting the resolution it's receiving.

[Italo Tettoni]

[QUOTE=Earlstreetblue]At the moment I have a 32" Q321 LCD HDTV.

Connected to it are two DVD's.

One is a LiteOn DVD Recorder connected via Full Scart, and the other is a Sony DVPNS76H upscaling DVD Player via HDMI->DVI.

When I view the same DVD (Kill Bill 2) on both DVD's there is no difference in PQ?
QUOTE]

The scaler of your TV is as good, or better, than the scaler of the DVD-recorder hence the lack of a definite difference between the SCART connection and the HDMI-DVI connection. Also on most cheaper players the HDMI/DVI connection is not as good as the best analogue connections eg.component/scart.

Both of those probably account for the lack of major difference between the 2, so just use whichever is easier to connect.