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Old 02-01-2006, 11:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Pioneer DV-575A: colour bleeding with Progressive Scan

Hello, I have Pioneer DV-575A player connected to a Panasonic TX-32PD50.

I bought the player a few months ago from Richer Sounds but have been disappointed with the Progressive Scan output using JVC component leads (leads cost £10 from Dixons).

Below are two pictures I took of the Pioneer logo screen that appears when you switch the player on. The first picture was taken with the player set to Interlaced mode and the other with the player set to Progressive mode (all other settings remained the same). You can see that there is significant colour bleeding in Progressive Scan mode which appears when viewing a disc too.

Any ideas what as to what I can do to fix this?

Thanks, Milez

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Old 03-01-2006, 9:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Have you tried adjusting your AV connector out settings?
Video
S-video
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I have mine set to S-video and I don't have any of the bleed your unit is showing. I am connected via Component and Scart.

You may have checked this already, but I thought I'd mention it just in case. Also, you need to be in interlaced mode to change these settings.
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Old 03-01-2006, 10:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've noticed that the Pioneer's progressive output is consierably less detailed on my setup than the interlaced setting...I think that my LCD must prefer to be fed an interlaced picture, so it can do the de-interlacing itself, as opposed to receiving an already progressive picture...
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Old 04-01-2006, 3:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I get this effect, but's it's using prog scan on the DV-380 into a PS CRT set! It's very strange. Try looking at the text in the setup menus switching between PS and interlaced. The interlaced text is very clear, on PS the text lacks detail and smudging occurs.

If you can, take a look at a white grid geometry pattern that looks like this (on DVE or similar)

http://www.uni-mannheim.de/fakul/psy.../cvd/C9906.GIF

I find that where the white lines meet there is distorsion which is not due to picture geometry. Do you see a similar result?
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Milez, I don't get this on PS (haven't messed with any settings), so it might be the details or match of your particular set-up. It looks like interference to me, though one wonders why interlaced isn't affected too, then.

As for detail, interlaced shows more detail in a way, like impurities in skin etc, but makes everything look like a tv soap, something more or less similar happens when I watch a movie on freeview. DVD on PS looks much more cinematic (and the details are still there, just not so much in your face), to the extent that I don't even want to watch movies on tv anymore. I reckon this has to do with the image processor in the tv (sharp 32GD7E, but I hear the same reports for pretty much every brand tv) which has to convert the interlaced signal into progressive, and which is bypassed when feeding PS. With a decent dvd player, it must be better to do it in the dvd, because the tv doesn't know that a dvd movie, with its particular encoding idiosyncracies (you know, the whole 3:2 business, etc), is being played and hence cannot exploit that information when producing the progressive scan image.
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