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Old 24-08-2007, 8:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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HD DVD – Blu-Ray

I know that some people are going to kick up a stink by what I'm going to say but here goes
I have owned a HD DVD since Christmas 06 and have to say I was very pleased with it and own some great movies, (Matrix, MI3, The Pretige, HP) Last week I decided to get a PS3 on a good offer at Toys R Us, I have to say after trying out a few Blu ray discs: Casino Royale, Hellboy, Kung Fu Hustle, The Prestige, that I prefer the Blu-ray format although it doesn't have the interactivity, which is not that important to me, the main thing that sways me to this format is the uncompressed PCM soundtracks, these sound amazing, having more room on the disc, and the PS3 seems a little more stable at reading the discs, the whole thing just seems better build quality, and I never thought I would say that as I was all for HD before last week but there is something that feels a little cheap about the HD DVD over Blu ray. I feel Blu ray is aimed more at the Cinephile rather than the average jo blogs who watches movies maybe once a year.

PLEASE NOTE: This is not a thread for people to be having a slanging match about which format is the best, this is what my experience has been with both formats and I thought I would share this with people who may share the same opinion.
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Old 24-08-2007, 9:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: HD DVD – Blu-Ray

You know this is going to turn into a slagging match, so why post it?

I disagree with you totally, I too own both and I find the build quality on my XE1 higher than the PS3.

Maybe my ears are less sensitive than yours buy I cant tell the difference between True HD/ PCM- unless you have watched the same film with both mixes I doubt you can either.

Ciniphile- on a games console.......sure

I would really like the mods to just pre emptively close this- we all know how its going to turn out.
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Old 24-08-2007, 9:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: HD DVD – Blu-Ray

As I said my opinion, why people get so upset by another persons views is beyond me, if it angers you don't read the thread, also you should try the prestige on hd dvd and blu ray and tell me which one sounds the best
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Old 24-08-2007, 9:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: HD DVD – Blu-Ray

Its stupidity angers me

THe Prestiege is a UK release only- with a DD+ track, ok the PCM on the BD sounds better. The picture is the same.

How about Superman Returns, the HD DVD sounds much better, how about all the Paramount releases that only had DD on BD?
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Old 24-08-2007, 9:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Once again, This thread is MY opinion on which format I PREFER, I made this clear and concise and requested replies by people who may share the same views
you are obviously looking for an argument unfortunately you have come to the wrong place.
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Old 24-08-2007, 9:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: HD DVD – Blu-Ray

I don't know about HD-DVD through personal experience, so cannot comment, but there is no justification for bashing the PS3. Dude to its power and upgradability, it is indeed a cinephile machine and will be so for about 5 years if not more. Also, it IS superbly built.
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Old 24-08-2007, 9:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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On a positive note, Universal seem to be putting TrueHD on the majority of future releases on HD-DVD so lossless sound will be less of an issue in the future. Hopefully in a year or so lossy sound codecs will be a thing of the past. Saying that I think DD+ sounds great so i'm happy anyway.
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Anyway, if a particular film is mastered to its potential, then there shoudl be no discernible difference between Blu Ray and HD-DVD....in the future. Except that Blu Ray has more capacity for the bigger films, and HD-DVD has better interactive features. From my limited understanding. So this debate is much of a muchness.
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Old 24-08-2007, 9:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Blu ray is getting BDi pretty soon I think its available on pixars Cars disc, I will tend to buy mainly blu ray from now on and get things on hd that are not available on the other, I am awaiting heroes on hd dvd which I am looking forward to watching
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Re: HD DVD – Blu-Ray

as a Dual owner I see no real difference between the formats on discs that are available on both. While a fan of Uncompressed PCM the differences between that and TrueHD are very slight that it probably makes no difference.

Each member will have their view over which format they prefer, lets keep it civil.
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Re: HD DVD – Blu-Ray

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I know that some people are going to kick up a stink by what I'm going to say but here goes
I have owned a HD DVD since Christmas 06 and have to say I was very pleased with it and own some great movies, (Matrix, MI3, The Pretige, HP) Last week I decided to get a PS3 on a good offer at Toys R Us, I have to say after trying out a few Blu ray discs: Casino Royale, Hellboy, Kung Fu Hustle, The Prestige, that I prefer the Blu-ray format although it doesn't have the interactivity, which is not that important to me, the main thing that sways me to this format is the uncompressed PCM soundtracks, these sound amazing, having more room on the disc, and the PS3 seems a little more stable at reading the discs, the whole thing just seems better build quality, and I never thought I would say that as I was all for HD before last week but there is something that feels a little cheap about the HD DVD over Blu ray. I feel Blu ray is aimed more at the Cinephile rather than the average jo blogs who watches movies maybe once a year.

PLEASE NOTE: This is not a thread for people to be having a slanging match about which format is the best, this is what my experience has been with both formats and I thought I would share this with people who may share the same opinion.
Thanks for that Steve.

Personally, I disagree.

I watched 'Identity' on Blu-ray Disc a couple of weeks ago, and the sound was excellent...via optical at 640kbs!

Check out this post from a Hollywood sound man on the difference in SQ between Lossless and Lossy:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=150

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Re: HD DVD – Blu-Ray

steve69bez - how are you connecting you players and to what kt? You really shouldn't notice any real difference between HD DVD and BluRay in terms of audio or picture quality. Personally I find little difference in PCM or TrueHD.
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Re: HD DVD – Blu-Ray

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Anyway, if a particular film is mastered to its potential, then there shoudl be no discernible difference between Blu Ray and HD-DVD....in the future. Except that Blu Ray has more capacity for the bigger films, and HD-DVD has better interactive features. From my limited understanding. So this debate is much of a muchness.
Whilst Blue Ray has a larger capacity the capacity of HD DVD is more than enougth to fit any film in 1080p with an uncompressed soundtrack.

If special editions are released that are crammed with extra features then this will probably be split across two discs on HD DVD. I for one dont have a problem with owning a two disc HD DVD set one with the feature and some special features and the other with all the other special features.
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I never thought I would say that as I was all for HD before last week but there is something that feels a little cheap about the HD DVD over Blu ray. I feel Blu ray is aimed more at the Cinephile rather than the average jo blogs who watches movies maybe once a year.

PLEASE NOTE: This is not a thread for people to be having a slanging match about which format is the best, this is what my experience has been with both formats and I thought I would share this with people who may share the same opinion.
This the part that sounds provocative: HD-DVD looks cheap and is for the average joe blogs who only watches movies once a year, not meaning to slag anything off, of course
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I think HD DVD and Blu Ray are almost the same. The only reason i prefer Blu ray is because my X360 HDDVD drive sounds like a train.
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