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04-08-2008, 3:36 PM
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Newbie with a DSLR
Well after all the advice received from here and advice found on here, I have purchased my first SLR camera,
It was a choice between the Canon EOS 450 and the Nikon D60.
After alot of confusion and frustration from the wife and standing in shops I decided on the Canon, for no other reason than it felt better to hold and operate. I have read through hundreds of posts reviews and studdied shots from each camera to come up with, I cant really se any difference and the diff in specs was probably not worth worrying about for me as it is all new.
So went to Jessops as they seemed to be offering best deals and ended up with
Canon EOS 450 + 18-55 kit lense
2 x 2GB cards
A camera Bag
Tamron 70-300 lense
Jessops 2x converter
All for including the £50 off £590
Quite pleased, took about 100 shots today, mainly trying diff settings so most have been binned but very pleased with first impressions.
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04-08-2008, 4:08 PM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
Well done  , its great spending isn"t it , I never take the wife with me in fact she doesn"t know that I have just bought 3 lens this week ( wait till packages arrive 2mos tho ) 
I am doing a similar thing to you with my Sony A200 , trying out different apertures etc and seeing how they affect exposure etc.
Dont expect too much from that 2x convertor with a 300mm lens though but enjoy the experience.
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04-08-2008, 5:15 PM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
Thanks for that,
It is great to spend lol, Hope you are getting on great with yours.
Im also wanting a general purpose lense something like a 25-135 lense for going away with. Something that will give me a bit of freedom without taking everything with me.
Will the converter be useless with the 70-300? or just at the higher range?
Im also looking at macro stuff as well, but might have to wait a bit before I start spending again.
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04-08-2008, 6:39 PM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
I think convertors are useful at the longer end of the zoom 2/300mm and work best with fast lens ie apertures such as 2.8 which then becomes 5.6 when used with a convertor.
So not saying yours will be useless but guess you will need plenty of available light at the long end if no fast aperture available.
More experienced people than me will perhaps give a better explanation.
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05-08-2008, 12:34 PM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
Thanks for that explanation, the lense is a tamron 70-300 f4-5.6 so by what you are saying this is probably going to be hard to use unless its very sunny at long range.
Im new to all this and thought the converter would be a good idea, ie cheaper than buying expensive huge lenses. I figured I would loose a bit of quality by using it.
Any help advise on how to get the best out of the kit is much appreciated this is my first SLR something ive always wanted to get into.
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05-08-2008, 6:19 PM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
Hi, I've just bought a 450D too and want to get the best out of it. Apart from the kit lens, what other lens is a "must have"? Also, I've read that a UV filter is essential. What do others think?
PS: Sorry to hijack your thread The Gooner
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06-08-2008, 12:13 AM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
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Hi, I've just bought a 450D too and want to get the best out of it. Apart from the kit lens, what other lens is a "must have"? Also, I've read that a UV filter is essential. What do others think?
PS: Sorry to hijack your thread The Gooner 
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no probs any info given is greatly appreciated. Lense wise Im looking at 28-135 ish for general stuff, ie when carrying a few lenses isnt ideal, is this a good idea?
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06-08-2008, 6:07 AM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
Plenty of us in the nw boat of dSLR's then. I picked up my 450 about a month ago now.
Spent the first two weeks just using the Kit Lens and trying to learn as much as possible. From there I started to realize what I felt I was missing out on lens wise.
First off was that I wanted a little more distance and so picked up a Sigma 70-200 2.8 which I love for the wildlife and sports (but now want longer so thinking about adding a Teleconverter as well).
Then I wanted to try a little Macro work and so picked up a Tamron 90mm.
Seems like there is plenty of discussions around about the best "Walkabout" lens and depends who you talk to. From my reading the Canon 28-135 and the Canon 22-105 (low range might be wrong) get good reviews.
I think what is important first is to think about what you want to capture most often and then decide a little from there. I like landscapes more than cityscapes so I think a decent wide angle would be next for me (Canon 10-22 maybe). I am wary though that I am falling into the trap of buying too much before I have really learnt enough to judge what I need.
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07-08-2008, 8:36 AM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
I purchased a tele converter with the 450 but havnt used it yet (only had camera a few days)
It is hard to decide on lenses, I have the kit lense and a tamron 70-300,
I would like a more universal lense for walkarounds to give flexibilty.
I would also like a prime 50mm lense for indoor/ portrait shots
The trouble is Im new to SLR and dont really know much about what im doing other than what I have read here and other sites. it is a bit of guessing game at the minute but hope to produce some qaulity shots in time.
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07-08-2008, 9:11 AM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
Have a read here, I'm in the same position
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07-08-2008, 9:25 AM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
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Have a read here, I'm in the same position 
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Thanks for this most helpful
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07-08-2008, 9:27 PM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
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Originally Posted by The Gooner
Well after all the advice received from here and advice found on here, I have purchased my first SLR camera,
It was a choice between the Canon EOS 450 and the Nikon D60.
After alot of confusion and frustration from the wife and standing in shops I decided on the Canon, for no other reason than it felt better to hold and operate. I have read through hundreds of posts reviews and studdied shots from each camera to come up with, I cant really se any difference and the diff in specs was probably not worth worrying about for me as it is all new.
So went to Jessops as they seemed to be offering best deals and ended up with
Canon EOS 450 + 18-55 kit lense
2 x 2GB cards
A camera Bag
Tamron 70-300 lense
Canon 2x converter
All for including the £50 off £590
Quite pleased, took about 100 shots today, mainly trying diff settings so most have been binned but very pleased with first impressions.
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how you getting on with the canon Canon EOS 450 mate
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07-08-2008, 9:38 PM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
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First off was that I wanted a little more distance and so picked up a Sigma 70-200 2.8 which I love for the wildlife and sports (but now want longer so thinking about adding a Teleconverter as well)..
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Nice choice. I know Holo just picked up a TC for his and I'm probs getting one as soon as funds allow. Seems sensible.
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Originally Posted by FrankfurtDave
Seems like there is plenty of discussions around about the best "Walkabout" lens and depends who you talk to. From my reading the Canon 28-135 and the Canon 22-105 (low range might be wrong) get good reviews.
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If you mean the 28-105, as in my sig, I can confirm it's a very nice lens indeed. A really decent allrounder. Can be a bit long at the wide end on a crop sensor which is why I also got the Tamron 17-50 (that and the f2.8). But if I want to 'travel light' and go out with just the one lens it works really well. I got mine about four years ago, 2nd hand from Jacobs and it only cost me £90. And it's the USM II version. Though from what I've read there's little difference. If I could justify the expense I'd go for the 28-135 though. More reach, IS and apparently optically the same as the 28-105.
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08-08-2008, 9:01 AM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
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how you getting on with the canon Canon EOS 450 mate
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Hi very good, due to work and rainy days I havnt much chance to go out with it, I have mainly been shooting at home of the kids and playing with settings. It is a nice camera and pleased I went for a DSLR.
I just need to learn how to use it now, ie when and how to change ISO, exposure ect to get the right shot, I am new to SLR having only owned p&s before.
The lense decision is very confusing, due to fund availability it is hard to make the right choice for what I need now, I am going on holiday soon and want a general lense (off to disney so dont want to carry loads of lenses) I was thinking of a 28-135 and take TC with me, but not sure how the 2 will work together or will the lense be suffice on its own.
I have just purchased a spare battery of ebay for £4.49 + £1.99 P&P so cant complain there.
all tips and hints are welcome
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08-08-2008, 10:29 AM
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Re: Newbie with a DSLR
at the minute I havnt got any filters ect, do I need to use them, if so which ones and how do they help in the photo.
Newb question I know sorry
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