Entry level dSLR's with LiveView

[alchemistkevin]

Does anyone have a list/link? I tried searching but didn't get very far.

[dazza74]

Canon 450D, Sony A350 those I'd say are the top two to consider with that feature

[alchemistkevin]

I was actually considering the D40 until I found it didn't have LiveView! I'm looking in the similar price range.

Thanks for your post

[dazza74]

Originally Posted by alchemistkevin

I was actually considering the D40 until I found it didn't have LiveView! I'm looking in the similar price range.

Thanks for your post

Why do you feel you need liveview? I've got it on my D300 and can't say I've ever used it I still find it easier to manually / auto focus through the viewfinder. It's a relatively new feature for D-SLR which is why your paying a high premium to have it.

[alchemistkevin]

whoops! bit of a problem there (for me!) they're both around £400 a bit above my budget and what I looking to shell out for the D40.

[alchemistkevin]

Originally Posted by dazza74

Why do you feel you need liveview? I've got it on my D300 and can't say I've ever used it I still find it easier to manually / auto focus through the viewfinder. It's a relatively new feature for D-SLR which is why your paying a high premium to have it.

hmm...

Well you see I've always been using the consumer cameras and they're always had LiveView on them and I'm not sure easily will I adjust to not having it, I'm also looking forward to use this camera for sport type pictures and having a view on the LCD would help in framing the pics faster, in my view.

Of course, I'm here to listen and learn to please feel free to correct me.

[Mike.P®]

When I was looking for a DSLR a few months back I decided that as I was coming from a point and shoot it had to have live view but after a lot of reading from forums like this I came to the conclusion that it was just a gimmick to be honest.
In the end I bought a Pentax K10D without live view even though the newer K20D has it and I have to admit to not once wishing it was on the camera.

Saying that, you may have other reasons for wanting it in which case I will shut up

[alchemistkevin]

Originally Posted by Mike.P®

When I was looking for a DSLR a few months back I decided that as I was coming from a point and shoot it had to have live view but after a lot of reading from forums like this I came to the conclusion that it was just a gimmick to be honest.
In the end I bought a Pentax K10D without live view even though the newer K20D has it and I have to admit to not once wishing it was on the camera.

Saying that, you may have other reasons for wanting it in which case I will shut up

well its just since 2000 something I've never used a cam without it and framing a kid running around might be easier when you can see around the camera and on the LCD screen at the same time anticipating where they'll be next but I just don't think they're worth the premium I'm being asked to pay by the manufacturers.

I can get a cam without one but it would be a costly way to find if I actually need one! :D

[dazza74]

Originally Posted by alchemistkevin

hmm...

Well you see I've always been using the consumer cameras and they're always had LiveView on them and I'm not sure easily will I adjust to not having it, I'm also looking forward to use this camera for sport type pictures and having a view on the LCD would help in framing the pics faster, in my view.

Of course, I'm here to listen and learn to please feel free to correct me.

I can see where you are coming from, you'll adjust no problem at all taking pictures through a view finder in fact in most cases it makes the job a whole lot easier as you don't have the light problems reflecting of an LCD when taking a picture through a viewfinder.

[tugboatbill]

It's interesting that you think it's a gimmick Mike - I can well remember when I used to own my BSA C15 many, many years ago and we were all talking about the gimmick of electronic ignition, and indicators on the new Japanese bikes.

[andymckay2001]

I got a Olympus E410 off ebay (factory refurb) as my first D-SLR. Great Camera but have to say haven't used the live view feature much at all.

[Mike.P®]

Originally Posted by tugboatbill

I can well remember when I used to own my BSA C15 many, many years ago and we were all talking about the gimmick of electronic ignition, and indicators on the new Japanese bikes.

You mean they used to make Motorbikes outside of Japan?

[ryart]

Liveview is a feature I would like to have for two reasons: Macro shots on a tripod for careful manual focusing using the 10x feature. And those occasions when I can't get eye to viewfinder, such as when holding the camera overhead or out over a yawning chasm. Good also for those low level shots when you don't feel like lying on the ground. I doubt if I would use it much in the normal run of things though. To be properly implemented, though, the LCD should tilt relative the camera body. I think the Sony has the edge here. With a tilting LCD you can take pictures without it being obvious that you are taking pictures. Actually that's four reasons...

[Mike.P®]

Originally Posted by ryart

I think the Sony has the edge here. With a tilting LCD you can take pictures without it being obvious that you are taking pictures. Actually that's four reasons...

Actually I can now see a good reason for it if the camera had a tilting LCD, it would be handy for macro if I wanted to get up close without putting my face next to a bloody great spider.

[ryart]

Originally Posted by Mike.P®

.....without putting my face next to a bloody great spider.