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Old 25-06-2008, 7:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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...are coming soon. Just got back this evening after a 1-day 700 mile 13.5 hour ride back from Briancon in the middle of the French Alps. On a KTM 950 Supermoto for those who are interested. Knackered isn't the word.

Great trip by the way. Amazing locations. Just took the camera, 2 lenses and a tripod, plus a couple of filters to ensure I could pack light. I reckon an AVForums trip there could be cheaper than the Skye meet. I'll have a think about organising something.

Anyway, pics on here as they come in, just thought I'd announce my return. And I have a "reflections" picture too .

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Old 25-06-2008, 8:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Still downloading from the card, but here's the first one (and probably last for the night).

#1 This is near the top of the Col de la Croix de Fer (Col of the Iron Cross). I got up at 05:00 to ride 1.5 hours to this valley which me and the guys had ridden through 3 days earlier. I marked a bunch of locations on the GPS as I was riding around, and knew this one would look good with early light shining from the top of the valley down the line of the river. A truly superb location - so much to photograph up the the valley and over the top of the col...


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Col de la Croix de Fer is one of my favourite passes. Opens out to wide vistas as you go up; something you've captured well. It took us half a day to get to the top, but we were on push bikes.
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Nice, look forward to seing more.

I'm curious though. At 20mm, why f/20 and ISO200? Why not f/16 and ISO100? Kind of into the realms of lens deterioration, no? There's only about 5 inches difference in the near focus point between f/16 and f/20, and it doesn't look like your close enough to the ground for that to make a difference.
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Bag is packed. When do we leave? Seriously that's a meet I would be well and truly up for!!!

Looking forward to a thread full of delights Tobers. I'm sure you wont dissapoint. The water in that shot is very lovely and the backdrop aint too bad either!
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Nice, look forward to seing more.

I'm curious though. At 20mm, why f/20 and ISO200? Why not f/16 and ISO100? Kind of into the realms of lens deterioration, no? There's only about 5 inches difference in the near focus point between f/16 and f/20, and it doesn't look like your close enough to the ground for that to make a difference.
Ah - good question. I had highlight tone priority on which sets minimum ISO to 200 in order to "stretch" the dynamic range a tad. I turned it off about 30 mins later and set ISO to 50 instead. The 17-40 is great at f/20 and I didn't have a DOF calculator to hand so wanted to "play safe" nor do I know the DOF stats for my lenses well enough. However, your point on setting the aperture too small is a good one. I've found my 24-105 at f/22 does give problems, and I ended up mainly at f/16 or f/18 for most of the time.

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Bag is packed. When do we leave? Seriously that's a meet I would be well and truly up for!!!

Looking forward to a thread full of delights Tobers. I'm sure you wont dissapoint. The water in that shot is very lovely and the backdrop aint too bad either!
Ta Ally - its a bit like Skye on steroids. I reckon a cheapo flight to Grenoble, then a shared hire car, and a stay in a ski chalet (cheap off season) should be fairly econimical. Likely to be next year before I go again though, but worth waiting for. I only scratched the surface.
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lovely mate, just lovely, I've spent many a happy holiday in Tignes and Val d'isere and Val Claret, never made it there in the summer though. These are the kind of shots that make me think i should.. Well done you!
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Really looking forward to seeing what you got up to!


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Ah, right, ISO2oo, that explains it.

I see the comparison with the Highlands, the meandering foreground creek with the Buachaille in the background. It's a bit of a done-to-death shot. Same shot - different hill. Buachaille Etive Mor is much prettier though.

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Col de la Croix de Fer is one of my favourite passes. Opens out to wide vistas as you go up; something you've captured well. It took us half a day to get to the top, but we were on push bikes.
I'm hugely impressed! Anyone who can cycle up there deserves a medal. There were beaucoup cyclists all around the Briancon area doing all the cols, and wow it looked like hard work. As a one-time racing cyclist myself I was terrified just watching them.

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Ah, right, ISO2oo, that explains it.

I see the comparison with the Highlands, the meandering foreground creek with the Buachaille in the background. It's a bit of a done-to-death shot. Same shot - different hill. Buachaille Etive Mor is much prettier though.

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Darn - I've gots lots of meandering creeks and waterfalls. Oh well . Here's a couple without foreground flowing water...

#2 This is also on the way up to the Col de la Croix de Fer. Some abandoned shepherd huts on the far side of the valley. The sun had just snuck over the top of the col to my left and was giving a very nice skimming light all the way down the valley. Intriguingly, just after taking this I wandered down to the river and came across a bloke having a w**k!!! This was the second wierd incident of this early morning, after earlier surprising someone having a crap. I guess strange stuff happens in the mountains at dawn .

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#3 The light in the Alps can be very harsh during the day, but beautiful at dawn and sunset. As I was with 2 other guys and the main mission of the trip was hooning around mountain roads on motorbikes, I was a bit limited how often I could get out and take pics. However, just near Briancon where we were staying is the supendous Col d'Izoard which I decided to go up for sunset. Aside from having a phenomenal road up it, probably one of the best in the Alps, it has some super scenery at the summit. This one is looking across a number of ridges just catching the light as the sun sets. Lovely gentle pink and blue tones.

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#4 And facing the opposite direction, I really liked the way this curve was highlighted by the light just glancing off the top, warming the foreground against the rather cold forbidding mountainside behind.

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More to come - possibly waterfalls

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You came across some bloke having a w**k??........I would have been running in the other direction!!!

Looks like a lovely place
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Looking forward to a thread full of delights Tobers. I'm sure you wont dissapoint. The water in that shot is very lovely and the backdrop aint too bad either!
Hear hear!!

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LOL! He tried to pretend he had just been sitting there, then wandered off. Must have come from an RV that was parked about a mile away. What a laugh. Worse to come though...
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And you are suggesting a meet here??
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LOL! He tried to pretend he had just been sitting there, then wandered off. Must have come from an RV that was parked about a mile away. What a laugh. Worse to come though...
So you weren't tempted to do the full flea bitten journalistic thing and take a shot... . Your comment on my cycling prowess is most kind but to put it into perspective we climbed Alpe d'Huez the next day and I took over four times as long Pantani , and I suspect he didn't mumble, grumble and generally curse quite as much as me. Two wheels is definitely a good way to get about; you can stop anywhere to take a picture.

"Worse to come".... mind boggles .

By the way, lovely shots - really capturing the rhythms of the landscape well.
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