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08-11-2006, 5:22 PM
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I have decided that I need to get some filters to fit my 350D.
I have been looking at both Cokin and Hoya filters but don't really know which to go for.
I will be initially looking at a Circular Polarizer and maybe some graduated filters.
The Cokin range looks good and I assume that I would be looking at the P series for my lenses (77mm threads on both the 10-20 Sigma and the 24-105 Canon) One thing that concerns me slightly at the moment is vingetting at 10mm. Will the Cokin range suffer from this? I'm assuming that a screw in filter wouldn't.......but they are soooooooo expensive!
Any advice/alternative suggestions appreciated.
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08-11-2006, 5:50 PM
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I recently got a 77mm Hoya Circular Polariser as it fits all my L lenses. It produces some very nice effects. The only problem I have with it is that it is difficult to adjust with a lens hood mounted.
I'm also looking at graduated filters. Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM lens for sale.
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08-11-2006, 7:40 PM
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You can still get vignetting from a screw in filter. I have a 77mm circular polariser which covers all my lenses. I have been looking at the Cokin P series as I would like to get a graduated filter.
The only complaints I have heard about the Cokin system is light leaking in as the filter isn't a tight fit in the holder.
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09-11-2006, 11:44 AM
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I believe Cokin do a 'Wideangle' holder for the P system. I think it is lower profile to avoid vignetting on wide angle lenses.
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09-11-2006, 12:03 PM
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You can still get vignetting from a screw in filter...
| How right you are! This is the first sunny day here for a while so I've been out with an assortment of lenses and the circular polarising filter. Vignetting is most noticable on the 24-105 L at 24mm  (This is on a 5D body) Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM lens for sale.
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09-11-2006, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stevegreen I have decided that I need to get some filters to fit my 350D.
I have been looking at both Cokin and Hoya filters but don't really know which to go for.
I will be initially looking at a Circular Polarizer and maybe some graduated filters.
The Cokin range looks good and I assume that I would be looking at the P series for my lenses (77mm threads on both the 10-20 Sigma and the 24-105 Canon) One thing that concerns me slightly at the moment is vingetting at 10mm. Will the Cokin range suffer from this? I'm assuming that a screw in filter wouldn't.......but they are soooooooo expensive!
Any advice/alternative suggestions appreciated. |
You would need a wide holder for the 10-22, the normal one cuts in around 16mm.
I would recommend the Cokin system, definatelly a good buy. I found Hilton Photographic to be the best buy, on eBay. Let me know if you need their eBay id
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09-11-2006, 12:19 PM
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Thanks for the replies.
I have just been into the local Jessops and the helpful chap behind the counter said that their own 'Pro' brand of circular polarisers are on 1/2 price offer at the moment and that they are as good quality as the Hoya brand (in fact he said they were the same apart from the branding) I asked him about vignetting at 10mm (16mm equivalent) and he said that the profile of the surrounds was quite shallow so I shouldn't see much vignetting at 10mm (16mm) Kaoshans post would suggest otherwise.
£53 for a 77mm thread circular polariser, Jessops brand, seems quite tempting but I wonder if the quality is the same or whether there would actually be that much in it if there were a difference. I had a look at the quality of a Jessops UV filter and it seemed to be quite good.
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09-11-2006, 12:25 PM
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That's interesting to know - I'm going to pop in to our Jessop's at lunchtime to have a look...
You only really see bad vignetting if your aperture is open wide (i.e. low aperture value) - I've got a 5D, and a Hoya UV filter on my 16-35, and don't get too bad vignetting. It's mostly noticeable if you've got a constant colour scene - e.g. sky, snow, painted wall, etc.
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09-11-2006, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stevegreen £53 for a 77mm thread circular polariser, Jessops brand, seems quite tempting but I wonder if the quality is the same or whether there would actually be that much in it if there were a difference. I had a look at the quality of a Jessops UV filter and it seemed to be quite good. | Got a few of their filters and they are good quality
The Cokin cost me £9 for the holder [same again for the wide one] and £6 for the ring adaptors then about £12 a filter  Very flexible and I'd say moreso than a standard screw on filter.
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09-11-2006, 3:31 PM
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Steve,
With the 24-105 L + cpf on either a 350D or a 30D there is no vignetting at 24mm. It only occurs on a FF body.
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09-11-2006, 3:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaoshan Steve,
With the 24-105 L + cpf on either a 350D or a 30D there is no vignetting at 24mm. It only occurs on a FF body. | But there would be on the 10-22mm bud
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10-11-2006, 9:25 AM
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Even though the 10-22 is an ef-s lens, so the sensor doesn't actually gather any (well, much) light from the edges of the lens?
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10-11-2006, 9:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chunder Even though the 10-22 is an ef-s lens, so the sensor doesn't actually gather any (well, much) light from the edges of the lens? | Yeah thought that would be a factor but it isn't
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19-11-2006, 11:23 PM
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has anyone got any photos taken with the cokin circular polariser?
Im also looking for a polariser but worried about the cokins quality.
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23-11-2006, 12:14 PM
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well ive been advised by a collage photography teacher to go with the lee filter system.
Does anyone use them or have experience of them?
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