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29-05-2009, 4:35 PM
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I'm new to this part of the A/V forums so go easy on me. I've Had a 450D for about nine months and just recently went on a course which has just motivated me more with my Photography.
I have the kit lens 18-55 and i bought a EF-S 55-250 F4-5.6. The 55-250 is very good and i'm happy with it but the 18-55 has always been a bit soft and some of the time slightly out of focus when it shouldn't be.
So i need an upgrade  I've been thinking about the future and where i want to go with my photography and although the 24-105 isn't best suited to the 450D when i upgrade my body in a year or so it will be bang on. I don't see the point of another EF-S lens because when i upgrade my body Midrange DSLR's will propably be using full format sensors.
So would you?
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29-05-2009, 7:48 PM
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I'm no expert, but i have the 24-105 on my 40D, i love it, it's one of my most used lenses.
I dont often go really wide so it's good enough for me.
Lets put it this way, if i go out and pick up my camera, not knowing quite what i plan to photograph, then the 24-105 is my lens of choice.
This pic.. Clicky is a recent one, it just picks up colour wonderfully.
If you are planning to go FF anytime in the future i think this is a wise investment.
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29-05-2009, 8:02 PM
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29-05-2009, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pablo_paul So would you? | yes yes and
i have it on my 40D and it's a fantastic lens. well built, sharp and the colours are great. it's a lens the you'll keep for a very long time
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30-05-2009, 8:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pablo_paul So i need an upgrade  | The old need/want scenario
I have the 24-105 on a 450D and it is fantastic. Money on good lenses is rarely wasted.
I would keep the kit lens though because 24 is not wide enough.
Sam
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30-05-2009, 8:18 AM
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Thanks guy's. I just needed that little push over the edge it's a lot of money. The good thing is if i decide it's not for me Ebay prices are stupid at the moment so i will get most of my money back. I understand L's are good lenses but i was shocked at the used prices!
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30-05-2009, 9:06 AM
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I wouldn't discount some of the EF-S lenses, just cause you reckon midrange bodies in future will be full frame. I'm not so sure. It's a subject that's been debated for a long time. All the major manufacturers have made a massive investment in APS-C and have a huge user base way beyond consumer/entry level and I don't think the introduction of any of the newer FF models suggests that FF will be a feature of any midrange bodies for some time. For example, currently you couldn't go FF for less than £1500 at least.
So unless you see yourself spending that kind of money on a body upgrade in future, then get the 24-105 because it stands up better than others you're considering. And specifically think about losing the wide end on a crop body. I used a 28-105 that I loved when I was using film, but however good a lens it was (and certainly better than the old 18-55 my 30D came with), once I got the 30D it just wasn't wide enough for general use.
For 24-105 money, I'd really think about the 17-55 IS. Less reach but a stop faster and crucially gives you the wide end.
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30-05-2009, 9:55 AM
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I can see a Full frame camera in the future if i buy some more decent glass £1500 for a body seems relatively cheap
I've had a play with my current lenses set between 24-105 and 24 seems reasonably wide. I've had a look through some of my previous images in lightroom and it's very rare to find an image below 22mm.
I'm going to go for it
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30-05-2009, 12:46 PM
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I've had a play with my current lenses set between 24-105 and 24 seems reasonably wide. I've had a look through some of my previous images in lightroom and it's very rare to find an image below 22mm.
| Dont forget if you do go FF 24mm will appear even wider due to the 1.6x fovcf of the APS-C sensor
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30-05-2009, 1:02 PM
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Of course, I think one of the reasons the 24-105 isn't best suited to the 4/3 sensors is that 24mm = 38mm so it's not very wide. I think i will need to fill the hole below this lens at some point for truely wide.
Anyway i've splashed the cash, UK, brand new, only £50 more than i saw one go on Ebay yesterday used. Should be here Tuesday.
can anybody recommend a good place to get cheap Hoya filters?
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31-05-2009, 3:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pablo_paul can anybody recommend a good place to get cheap Hoya filters? |
you have spent how much on the lens ? , and then you want to put cheap filters on it , or do you mean cheap as in good value not rip off high street prices ?
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31-05-2009, 4:06 PM
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Good value. I've been looking at the Hoya pro1 UV pricey enough for you?
I've been out today will post some pics later.
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31-05-2009, 5:24 PM
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01-06-2009, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pablo_paul I've had a play with my current lenses set between 24-105 and 24 seems reasonably wide. I've had a look through some of my previous images in lightroom and it's very rare to find an image below 22mm.
I'm going to go for it | That's what I did when I decided to get the 24-105 for my 40d. About 5% off my images were towards the wide end and alot was towards the telephoto part of my old lens. I really like this lens, and it's on my 40d most of the time. My 50 is the only reason I take it off.
Anyway, enjoy your purchase. The first thing that hit me after the build quality was how cool having IS was
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01-06-2009, 6:37 PM
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I Can't wait for it to turn up. If the weather hold's up i'll probably go out for a couple of hours and try it out.
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