**** Philips Pixel Plus (and other problems) discussion - post here ****

[sonofmoth]

Hope this works but I want to see how big a problem it is

[mij]

I have had the ferrite ring fitted to my 9527 and it does not work, there is no difference at all.

mij

[ryanos]

Sent mine back to comet as i thought the T.V had too many faults black bars, switching itself off, major pixelisation ( is that a word?) on motion especially sport ........Now got Sony 32fx66 and I am a happy man!

[roboldham]

Originally posted by ryanos
Sent mine back to comet as i thought the T.V had too many faults black bars, switching itself off, major pixelisation ( is that a word?) on motion especially sport ........Now got Sony 32fx66 and I am a happy man!

The last two points are TV setup I believe - although there will always be subjective views on Pixel Plus

R

[sonofmoth]

I think it does, it is a very popular subject with Pixel Plus owners and prospective owners alike. As Philips and the TV press don't seem to want to do anything about what is a design flaw in an otherwise excellent TV then I feel that it should be up to this forum to collate some evidence of the problem so that at least one of the above will take notice.
Having the post sticky would mean that readers would instanlty see it. One of the problems with forums is that many people do not go past page 1 and therefore questions get repeated and important topics get lost.

I am sure someone will back me up on the importance of this and the request for stickiness.

[mij]

Me too, I have talked and written to several different departments at Philips, and they all say that I am the first person to complain about this, and then ignore me.
This would prove that argument wrong.

It might be worth including an explanation as to what the black bars are, and how to see them. some people dont use the RGB scarts etc...

mij

Hi there am new to this site but I too have the Philips 9617 connected to digi box and video and dvd and those bars are sooo visible especially when watching Harry Potter or Et, so annoying. I had the TV replaced thinking it was a one off but its been replaced and the problem is still exactly the same. Is there a cure for this please help.

[sonofmoth]

see the ferrite rings post. I've had them fitted to my 9617 and so far, so good. I've only once seen a very faint hint of the bars and its FAR better than it was

This ferrite ring thing, where did you get it from I tried the link from the french web site thing and had google translate it but i dont have a clue what im looking for. Can anyone help?

[sonofmoth]

I printed it off in French & English, printed off reports from other people with the same problem in this forum and took it to my engineer who ordered the part and fitted it.

[karl.g]

I've had a 9527 for about 3 weeks and not seen any sign of the black bars. Initially I was ready to return the TV because there was some very wierd pixelisation (it is a word now) and the Pixel Plus seemed to struggle. However, after a good deal of experimenting with setup and reading this forum, I think it is an excellent picture. Also benefits from very good sound.

[Nyquil Driver]

Damn!.

I've owned a 9617 for ages and so far I've been very pleased... BUT!, a couple of weeks ago I briefly used the composite in on the side of the set and I did happen to notice faint bands like the ones described here. I ignored it initially as I assumed it was because of a dodgy lead or something, but earlier today (after trying to solve my connectivity problems) I used the S-Video input on the side aswell. Shockingly, the two bars show-up even more clearly with that input (probably because the image is excellent except for the banding). So, despite thinking I'd finally bought myself a decent set, it looks like I haven't got away with it after all!.

I was actually planning on re-organising all my connections in order to accomodate 2 DVD's, Sky and a Gamecube, although I started fiddling with things because of an un-related problem (which I may start a thread on tomorrow). Anyway, I'd intended to have my DVD recorder permanently plugged into the side S-video socket, but obviously with these bars that's not really an option now.

I have to emphasise that images from both RGB scarts (and the tuner) are completely free from vertical bars. I tried playing Dark City through S-video today and the bars were noticeable throughout, yet I've watched it before through RGB and it was fine...

[karl.g]

Sorry to hear of another case of black bars! It seems that nobody is immune. I'll have to try the other inputs on mine. If any manufacture could actually produce a TV that works properly on a consistent basis they would clean up.

[wanchaiman]

These black bars are very mysterious ... I looked at the poll and 33% of respondents dont have the problem. Is there some link perhaps?

Could it be that the problem has been corrected and the newer batch of sets dont have "bb" syndrome? Or am I being too optimistic?

I dont have one yet - but would love to get the "Eurpoean TV of The Year" - EISA Awarded 2003/2003 this tv that accolade. Keep waiting and checking ...

One last note : does the 9527 accept progressive input and if so which varieties? The 9420 pixel plus 4:3 set here takes up to 1080i

[karl.g]

My friend and I have both recently bought the 9527 from Comet online. Neither of us have the black bars. There is a progressive scan feature when playing NTSC DVDs, although they can look a little grainy depending on the input.