A TV without the Gumf

Well thanks to the help from people on this forum I printed out the evidence of the problems with the FQ-75 and got a full refund. Yes, people there is a problem with this TV with scrolling bars, ever so slight but for 1500 squid you don't want 'ever so slight' you want perfect. Also the picture is very digitised, like every programme you watch is stuck in an episode of Sunset Beach and American broadcast land. The FQ-75 is a terrible TV for its price and I have no idea how it got the reviews it recieved.

Anyway, now I want a new set, most likely a Philips. But I want TV without all the crap they throw in nowadays. O.K. I like flat screen, I like 32 inch but I hate all these digital things they chuck in DRC this DTTC that DICK this...whatever. I want a TV really to do my DVD justice, I have the leads, which I finally settled on s-video for the time being as my DVD palyer doesn't output RGB, the quality though I have to say is incredible through s-video, very sharp. My other main niggle is I want a TV where s-video isn't on the front of the TV, I hate the wires dangling, I suppose this is another reason I like Philips as the connections for s-video are at the side which is slightly better.

Anyway, any recommendations would be appreciated, there is no way I am willing to spend over 900, I want a stripped down value for money TV at 32 inches, as simple as that.

Another thing is I hate 100hz, so I'd prefer 50.

[jag]

How about the Panasonic TX32PL1?

This has front connection for the s-video though doesn't it? Other than that is it a good TV?

Why are you worried about a front connection for S-Video?

You can watch S-Video via scart to scart as well as via an actual S-Video socket. Scart-to-scart is the best way to do it though because then you'll get auto switching.

I think you'll find lots of TVs have front or side S-Video sockets for convenience because they're more for temporary use.

I'd hoped you'd remember the problems I had with scart and the quality of the image. My DVD player doesn't output RGB so I may as well not use it, S-video was infinitely better. But I don't want to spend money on a TV to have cables danging down the front.

By the way SG I'd like to thank you personally for getting me to go into Jessops and demanding full refund, I did with the evidence of the problems with the FQ-75 and they refunded without a problem.

What are JVC sets like?

Originally posted by Comicman
I'd hoped you'd remember the problems I had with scart and the quality of the image. My DVD player doesn't output RGB so I may as well not use it, S-video was infinitely better. But I don't want to spend money on a TV to have cables danging down the front.

Yes, I remember that. But as I said, you don't have to use the S-Video cable that you bought You can use a scart cable for S-Video as well

Originally posted by Comicman
By the way SG I'd like to thank you personally for getting me to go into Jessops and demanding full refund, I did with the evidence of the problems with the FQ-75 and they refunded without a problem.

No worries. I thought they would. Glad it worked out for you.

Originally posted by Comicman
What are JVC sets like?

I sent one back (an AV28R25) for a 5mm tilt in the picture and poor RGB.

I have had a Sony KV28LS60 for a while now and it's great - I'm very happy with it. It's 100Hz and I know you don't want to consider 100Hz TVs, but it's plain 100Hz, i.e. there is no DRC or any extra digital processing. My review is here if you are interested: Sony KV28LS60

The S-Video socket is on the side, in a hidden panel so if you really want to continue to use your S-Video cable then you would have cables dangling from the side.

'Yes, I remember that. But as I said, you don't have to use the S-Video cable that you bought You can use a scart cable for S-Video as well '

How do I do this. I bought one of those little s-video to scart adaptors and that didn't work, it was just B&W on R1 and the same quality as what scart is on R2.

So will this make my s-video leads redundant, I paid out 40 squid for the s-video and audio leads, and they produced a great picture.

Your last reply didn't show on here from the link in my email alert.

Originally posted by Comicman
How do I do this. I bought one of those little s-video to scart adaptors and that didn't work, it was just B&W on R1 and the same quality as what scart is on R2.

So will this make my s-video leads redundant, I paid out 40 squid for the s-video and audio leads, and they produced a great picture.

Do you not have a scart socket on the back of your DVD player then? If not, then ignore what I said. But if you do, then yes your S-Video leads are redundant and you would have to purchase a scart-to-scart cable.

The b&w picture on R1 is probably because NTSC was not enabled for S-Video on the FQ75 that you owned.

If you had poor quality on R2, then that's probably because you were using an s-video to scart adaptor etc.

Anyway, it's up to you. You can do it either way, but if you set your mind on using your S-Video cable with your new TV, you will be ignoring lots of good TVs just because they have an S-Video socket in a position that you don't like If you do want to use your S-Video cable, then I thiink you should not worry too much about the dangling wires - believe me, it's hard enough to get a TV set that you like without adding requirements about the location of the S-Video socket as well (which, as I said, will in the vast majority of cases be on the front or on the side)

Originally posted by Comicman
Your last reply didn't show on here from the link in my email alert.

That's because I deleted it and replaced it with the one above (which has a fuller response)

Like you said in your review, a little blurry, that is what I notice. The flickiering on 50hz I never notice once my eyes adjust, which is in no time at all. Its just a gimmick.

Originally posted by Comicman
Like you said in your review, a little blurry, that is what I notice.

Only on text that is fast scrolling horizontally.

Originally posted by Comicman
The flickiering on 50hz I never notice once my eyes adjust, which is in no time at all. Its just a gimmick.

The flickering on 50Hz never bothered me either (even though I was mildly aware of it), but 100Hz is not a gimmick as far as I'm concerned - it produces a more stable and clearer picture IMO. If you can see the LS60 in action in store, you'll see what I mean.

But, of course, at the end of the day, you should go with what you personally like.

I have always had a scart lead and yes there is a scart socket on the DVD player which is what I use at the moment on my feeble 14inch. The picture is great but that is because the picture is so much smaller. I know it is to do with the quality of cable as well, but the csart I have is a 20 quid one so I don't see that as that bad a scart cable surely? I know you can spend a fortune on them.

Is NTSC enabled through the scarts when you buy them, I heard you have to go through the service menus etc which you can risk messing the TV up so is it betst to get the guys to do it?

Where the scarts say s-video in this is where you mean it takes s-video? Like I said a while back you could see the colours vibrating on R1, they weren't stable and overall watching bothe R2 and R1 through scart on the FQ-75 the image was very blurry compared to s-video. So as well as making the scart except NTSC through the s-video scart will it make the image less blurry and as sharp as the s-video connections?