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Old 05-07-2006, 11:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb Give The People What THey Want!

OK, so the Samsung HD CRT is the Russian Roulette of TV procurement.

But surely the clamour for this set (and the immense amount of interest therein) must prove to manufacturers that there's a big market out there for a HD CRT?

We WILL NOT buy your over-priced flat panels with their immature technology! So, sell them to the people who want big screens in small spaces and sell us a TV with a decent picture! Hell, I'd even accept a 25" HD CRT so it doesn't compromise your vulgar profit margins on flat panels...

So... PLEASE make us a 21" and/or 25" HD CRT with a conventional tube! It'll fill the back bedrooms of Britain in no time once the console owners and second-telly seekers get to see it. And your precious flat panel market will be safe.

What are you waiting for? (and don't say SED...)
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Old 05-07-2006, 11:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Agreed.

I'd happily spend 1.5k on a decent 32-36" HD CRT, but wouldn't buy any current plasma or lcd screen. I also think you're right in that a smaller version for a reasonable price would sell like hotcakes.
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Old 05-07-2006, 11:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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There is nothing wrong with plasmas and lcds, they have been out for years!!

I have a 32inch lcd hdtv and its way better than that new so-called hdcrt.
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Old 05-07-2006, 12:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This thread isn't about the current Samsung CRT, SuperSaiyan4. I wouldn't buy one of those either.

A decent HD crt would poo all over current lcd and plasma screens.
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Old 05-07-2006, 12:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This thread isn't about the current Samsung CRT, SuperSaiyan4. I wouldn't buy one of those either.

A decent HD crt would poo all over current lcd and plasma screens.
Thought the o/p mentioned the Samsung never mind.

I cant see why they cannot make a HD CRT like the PC monitors whats different about PC monitors that they cannot just make much bigger?

I am extremely happy with my LCD and soo are a lot of other people.

Its funny when a cheaper alternative comes out everyone starts saying LCD and Plasma are rubbish - 2 faced or what!
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Old 05-07-2006, 12:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Its funny when a cheaper alternative comes out everyone starts saying LCD and Plasma are rubbish - 2 faced or what!
I don't think price is the reason why some people don't like lcd and plasma screens, it certainly isn't for me.
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Old 05-07-2006, 4:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well..

The new Philips 32" CRD HD set is on sale in Slovakia at the moment for about £550 so expect it here soon and then we'll all be able to make a comparison between it and the 32" lcd screens out there.
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Old 05-07-2006, 4:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Last I heard that wasn't being released in the uk.
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Old 05-07-2006, 5:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Last I heard that wasn't being released in the uk.
Same here - I emailed Philips last week and there are 'no plans to release this tv in th UK, sorry' etc.
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Old 05-07-2006, 6:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Smile To clarify...

I've seen so many LCDs and plasmas up close and personal (in Singapore at trade shows). Great for static ior slow moving images, but they all irritate me in the extreme with fast-motion images. The shimmery, smeary mess & suspect shades make my blood boil, especially given they cost, at best, 3 times as much as my JVC CRT that has a great picture for £250.

Going from my laptop to desktop is bliss, as the latter has a CRT monitor and the colours and image quality shines through.

An high-end flat panel MAY do a decent job of HD, but what are we comparing them with? A flawed, non-quality assured shambles of a CRT that STILL demonstrates in some small part that a better HD CRT would wipe the floor with any flat panel out there.

Some savvy manufacturer, once the flat panel fad has died down a little, should put a decent little HD CRT out there and watch the accolades (and money) roll in.

If you've got a flat panel and are delighted with it, good for you. I just can't justify spending that much on something that is no more than a stop-gap in televisual technology. CRT may be dying, but so did Elvis. And he's still the King...
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Old 05-07-2006, 11:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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CRT may be dying, but so did Elvis. And he's still the King...
Haha... that is awesome.

I agree with the remainder of your post as well but I just _had_ to highlight this.
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Old 06-07-2006, 6:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I have a 32inch lcd hdtv and its way better than that new so-called hdcrt.
Well my new so-called hdcrt is High Definition so there is nothing so-called about it.
and yes it does poo all over lcd and plasma its a fantastic set.
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Old 06-07-2006, 8:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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There are problems with CRT which will never go away, and which Plasma don't suffer....

1. Bad picture geometry
2. Picture "balooning" with brightness content (poor EHT regulation)
3. Bad focus at the picture edges
4. Poor convergeance which drifts with age
5. Colour impurities caused by stray magnetic fields
6. Flicker if 50Hz, poor resolution if 100Hz.
7. Their sheer bulk !

Sure, plasma TV's aren't perfect by any means, but there's no way I'd ever swap my plasma display for a CRT.
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:44 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I've just ditched my Sammy due to numerous problems (see the main thread)

I love CRT's but the slim fit makes too many compromises, therefore I'm going to try my first LCD, which acording to the reviews could just give CRT a run for it's money and since I wil have tried both I'll report my finding a few weeks lets see if the best LCD can offer at the moment the Sony KLV32V2000U (twice the price of the Sammy).
I agree it would be nice to see some non slim fit tubes but anythnig totally flat will have the same corner focus issues, although they may not be as bad as slim fit tubes!

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