[scoobytyper267]

I have 2 computers....which do you thikn would be faster, and a lot faster??

Computer1: which is in my house, my parents one, which i modified a touch.

Intel Pentium 4 3.06Ghz processor overclocked to 3.2 Ghz, with 2 gig of Ram, as it only has 2 slots on Mobo for memory, don't wanna go forking out money for 2 gig per stick, as I have loads of 3200 ddr 1gb ram sticks here.

It has a biostar motherboard, the most basic model

Nvidia Geforce 512mb graphics cards pci-E

200gb hard drive (which even after 2 years use, still only 20% full, so hard drive size i'm not at all worried about).

Computer 2, which is at my shop ( i own my own business, been off the last year after having 2 back surgeries, so aint touched it til today)

I'm thinking of putting the computer from the house, taking it to the shop and taking the AMD system home from work, 2 put in my house.... but only if I know for a fact by your expert opinions that it will be much faster and better foir what I use Pc for.

Right, it's got:

AMD Athlon x2 4200+ processor Dual Core & slightly overclocked

512mb graphics card (Nvidia)

AS Rock mother board, with 4 RAM slots, where as my P4 at home only has 2 ram slots.

Basically 75% of the time I'm just browsing, burning Dvds, cd's and on youtube etc and 25% of the time I'm gaming, on High system requirement games like Rainbow Six Vegas 2 and Call of duty 4 modern warfare etc.

I''ve ran the "How fast can your computer calculate pi" test as shown here:
How Fast can your PC calculate pi?

and my P4 3.06ghz at home came up at completing it in 47.328 seconds

I overclocked it to 3.2Ghz for 2 mins to run the test and it knocked the time down to 44.81 seconds.

SO, I thought i'd pop over my shop and see what my bog standard AMD machine can do. My AMD says "

AMD Athlon x2 4200+ Dual Core processor" what does this mean with regards to pure speed compared to the P4. (single core 3.06Ghz prescott)

Anyway, Where as even with the pentium 4 3.06 gig processor overclocked to 3.2..... could only manage to do the test in 44 seconds.......my bog standard AMDx2 4200+ has just done the test in 39.141 seconds!!

Then I overclocked the AMD Dual Core to run at a core of 2508.4 MHz and it completed the test in an even faster time.......33.112 seconds!!

Just because my AMD beats the Pentium in this test, does that mean it will also be quicker than the Pentium for browsing you tube, downloading movies, burning dvds and cds etc, plus the odd rainbow six 2 vegas and call of duty 4 bash now and again?

Should I take this comp' from work and put it at home and replace my shop I own, where Ive currently got someone covering 4 me..shall i swap em round, me have the AMD and let the shop have my Pentium 4 so he can use it as I want the most powerful of the 2 ;-)

What I mean is, the P4 says simple and clear that I have 3.06Ghz speed as standard, simple as that.

But whats the actual clock speed of my AMD???

Basically, is it faster......here's the CPU-Z results from my P4 and my AMD and can someone please tell me which is definitely gonna be faster and quite a bit noticeably faster too please. Current have 4 slots in AMD with a gig og ram in each, if it turns out the AMD is faster, then I will fill the other slot uo with 1 gig DDR, then i'll have an
AMD Athlon x2 4200+ Dual Core processor, with 4 gig of ram surely thatis gotta be faster than an old P4 with only 2 gig of Ram?

Anyway, sorry for blabbering on..here are CPU-Z results for my AMD and P4, for you to use your expert knowledge and let me know which pc is the fastest.

ps: I know they both old, but ain't buying a new pc til another 6 months.

First off, here is the P4 screenshot..bare in mind, this screenshot is of the p4 overclocked to 3.2Ghz:

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Now for a slightly overclocked AMD screenshot of my AMD system:

and here is my slightly overclocked view of my pentium machine both times using CPU-Z:

Which will be an all round faster machine?

p4 3.2ghz, (single core prescott)with only 2 gig of ram, and only to slots on motherboard

or the dual core athlon 64 AMD, with 4 slots on board, currentky with 3 gig??




Any help much appreciated

Matt

[staffy]

the amd core speed is 2.4ghz but it has 2 core's. the p4 might have 2 core's if its a D type. but if the speeds were set the same, the amd would be faster.
amd is better for gaming over the p4. but ur graphics card has more todo with it really

[scoobytyper267]

CPUs - Fastest to Slowest

just came across the site in the link above, whih lists processors from fastest to slowest, can some pretty please have a look, is it really true what is says, the basically a standard pentium 4 doesn't even come close to speed performance when it comes to the my AMD Athlon 64x2 4200 dual core???

cheers
Matt

ps: sooooo....since im off work, you reckon for fastest performance i should take home and use the AMD lads?

cheers
Matt

[scoobytyper267]

Originally Posted by staffy

the amd core speed is 2.4ghz but it has 2 core's. the p4 might have 2 core's if its a D type. but if the speeds were set the same, the amd would be faster.
amd is better for gaming over the p4. but ur graphics card has more todo with it really

The Processor this exact model:

Intel Pentium 4 524 Prescott 3.06GHz

So I take it that it's not the D one your talking about, so basically

As far as the graphics cards go, the are both Nvidia Geforce 512mb.

Basically, the AMD Athlon 4200+ 2 dual core Which is in my shop not going much at the moment, will be faster at doing everything than the pentium have, which is definitely NOT dual core.

It's just the bog standard single core Prescott 3.06GHz version.

So what would recomend/think/know/or would choose for general overall performance with regards to processor performance:

1: AMD Athlon x2 4200+ Dual Core processor currently running at an overclocked core speed of 2508.1MHz

or

2: Intel Pentium 524 Prescott single core 3.06Ghz

??

If the AMD is dual core, does that, in a way mean, coz ive got it running at 2508.1MHz at the moment and is very very stable etc. does it basically mean I have 2508.1 x2 = a speed of 5016.2?

This is, at the moment I cant to afford to spen another single penny on any more computer equipment, as ive just had to repair my laptop for work etc.

So, right now i'm at home on the bog standard pentium with 2 gig of ram 512mb card

But if I want, I can walk 200 yards from my house to the shop I own and grab my computer, which is the dual core 4200+ AMD Athlon, which is overclocked and steady, 3 gig of ram and also 512 card.

But if I could find out on here that the processor itself it definiely more powerful than a bog standard single core pentium, then id swap em over.

Then I might just be tempted to add to the 3 gig of ram the AMD has got, and add another 1 gig to make 4 gig, as the motherboard has 4 slots, where as this crap biostar mobo which my pentium is in has only got 2 slots for RAM.

cheers for any replies

Matt

[staffy]

If the AMD is dual core, does that, in a way mean, coz ive got it running at 2508.1MHz at the moment and is very very stable etc. does it basically mean I have 2508.1 x2 = a speed of 5016.2?

yes it means theres 2 cores running at 2.5ghz. but not 5ghz doesn't always work that way. not all software fully support multicore. not sure if this is right, but think if a program doesn't support. then when it uses over 100% cpu load, the extra spills over to the second core. don't quote me on that as not really to sure, others might know .

as for games, the amd @ 2.5 is going be faster than the p4, only if the gpu isn't going to be the bottleneck. if the card can only do 25fps @ 1024res say with p4 then its only going do 25 with the amd. same sort of thing the other way but its going be a bloody fast card to max out the amd @ 2.5ghz. you've said a gforce 512mb card but not what model it is. this could be ur bottleneck and paying out more on ram isn't going help as much as a new card. really need to know what card ur using now? plus what windows ur using, some are limited. no point in putting 4gig in if the os only can use 2gig.

but yes the amd is going be faster at doing other stuff. test it do the same thing on each and time it. only bring home if u can live with the p4 been a bit slower at work. no good if u got wait for it and get stressed. time is money.

[Marlin]

I'd go with the AMD one too, for two reasons. It's dual-core and the AMD architecture is generally faster at most tasks than the Pentium4 netburst architecture.

[scoobytyper267]

Originally Posted by staffy

yes it means theres 2 cores running at 2.5ghz. but not 5ghz doesn't always work that way. not all software fully support multicore. not sure if this is right, but think if a program doesn't support. then when it uses over 100% cpu load, the extra spills over to the second core. don't quote me on that as not really to sure, others might know .

as for games, the amd @ 2.5 is going be faster than the p4, only if the gpu isn't going to be the bottleneck. if the card can only do 25fps @ 1024res say with p4 then its only going do 25 with the amd. same sort of thing the other way but its going be a bloody fast card to max out the amd @ 2.5ghz. you've said a gforce 512mb card but not what model it is. this could be ur bottleneck and paying out more on ram isn't going help as much as a new card. really need to know what card ur using now? plus what windows ur using, some are limited. no point in putting 4gig in if the os only can use 2gig.

but yes the amd is going be faster at doing other stuff. test it do the same thing on each and time it. only bring home if u can live with the p4 been a bit slower at work. no good if u got wait for it and get stressed. time is money.

The Crap Motherboard than my single core P4 prescott 3.06GHz is on says it will take 4 gig of RAM maximum, but it says that not the full 4 gig not will be used....Can't remember what it said, but something with regards to only 3-3.5 gig of the 4 gig will be used, for some reason.

Where as the machine over in my Shop, according to the motherboard manual, Can take up to 8Gig of RAM. & has 2 more RAM slots than the board the P4 is on.

The AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 4200+ is running on Windows XP Home SP3, same as what the P4 is running on.

As for the Card that's in the AMD System, it's a Nvidia Geforce 9400 GT, but if I know that the AMD chip will definitely out-perform the P4 chip, then The AMD System, will have the 9400 GT graphics card ripped out and one of these 1 gig graphics cards in:

http://images.maplin.co.uk/full/a25jc.jpg

As I love playing Raindow Six Vegas 2 and cOD4 etc etc. But with the p4 when playing Rainbow Six, to stop the game being extremely jerky and unplayable, I have to turn everything to the lowest possible settings etc in the Video options.



So, would the AMD Athlon 64 4200+ Dual Core, with 4 gig of ram and a !gig card defintely and VERY convincingly wipe the floor with a single core P4 3.06Ghz Prescot Cpu, with 512mb card etc??

Hopefully, with the AMD dual core chip, 4 gig of Ram and 1gb graphics card I will actually be able to turn most, if not all of the video options in Rainbow Six Vegas 2 to HIGH, instead of LOW or OFF as I currently have to with the P4.

cheers
Matt

[staffy]

the amd would wipe the flour over the p4 if u were to spend out on a better gpu. as for the mem on the card. more is better when on high res. what res are u using? and how much u will to pay out?

[dacads]

I'll give you a straight answer, computer 2.
It's not difficult it's an AMD athlon 64 x2 4200 OCed at 2.5GHz so 5.0GHz in total. Of course it's going to be faster, the pi calculations also prove it. YOu will see faster performances in games, burning dvds any task you throw at it
Also you say nvidia card but what model?

Dacads

[Theydon Bois]

Originally Posted by dacads

....... so 5.0GHz in total.

No.

Cores run concurrently, not added together.