editing to play on a blu ray player.

[brickstar]

sorry if this has been asked before but i have searched and cant find an answer.

i am a newbie with a canon hf100 and a panasonic DMP-BD35 blu-ray player i have edited my clips okay and burnt to dvd to be played on a dvd player with sony vegas 9.

when i try to burn a dvd bluray structured disc to play on my player i get this disc is uncompatible message.

am i right in thinking this can be done? and does anyone know the correct settings i used the following


video format- main concept mpeg 2

video template -dvd pal seperate streams

audio format-sony wave64

audio template-48000hz,16bit stereo,pcm

this is my first camcorder so i am a bit new to this any help would be greatly appreciated,thanks

[chrishull3]

Originally Posted by brickstar

sorry if this has been asked before but i have searched and cant find an answer.

i am a newbie with a canon hf100 and a panasonic DMP-BD35 blu-ray player i have edited my clips okay and burnt to dvd to be played on a dvd player with sony vegas 9.

when i try to burn a dvd bluray structured disc to play on my player i get this disc is uncompatible message.

am i right in thinking this can be done? and does anyone know the correct settings i used the following


video format- main concept mpeg 2

video template -dvd pal seperate streams

audio format-sony wave64

audio template-48000hz,16bit stereo,pcm

this is my first camcorder so i am a bit new to this any help would be greatly appreciated,thanks

You meen avchd disc i presume,have you checked if your bd player will play avchd discs,when i burn avchd on pinnacle i have to first choose which format
to make movie ie tape, file,dvd,avchd,blu ray.

[brickstar]

there seems to be no option to write an avchd disc within vegas,which my blu ray does play.

havent had vegas for long but i was under the impression you could burn a dvd reconized in a bluray player from the time line.it all reports that the disc has been created okay until i put it into the bluray.

when you burn with pinnacle to avchd do you lose any quality?

thanks for your reply

[chrishull3]

Originally Posted by brickstar

there seems to be no option to write an avchd disc within vegas,which my blu ray does play.

havent had vegas for long but i was under the impression you could burn a dvd reconized in a bluray player from the time line.it all reports that the disc has been created okay until i put it into the bluray.

when you burn with pinnacle to avchd do you lose any quality?

thanks for your reply

Does vegas not write avchd i dont use it so i dont know,regarding pinnacle or any soffware that will write avchd there is no visible loss in quality,avchd will only allow 35 mins on a 4.7 gb dvd blank disc,i personaly put all my film on 25gb blu ray disc but also some avchd as well.

[brickstar]

a blu ray burner is just a bit to dear for me right now but i will get one sometime in the future.
i will have a look at pinnacle and see what it has to offer, i really do like vegas though and was just getting the hang of it so i would like to persevere.

thanks for sharing

[Mr Lazy]

You are using the Platinum edition, right? I don't use Vegas but I can tell you those settings don't look right:

Originally Posted by brickstar

video format- main concept mpeg 2

Assuming this is refering to video compression type rather than transport stream type, mpeg2 will just get you a SD DVD. Do you get any option like MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 ?

video template -dvd pal seperate streams

Ditto

audio format-sony wave64

audio template-48000hz,16bit stereo,pcm

That's not right, I would have thought it should say AC-3.

Sorry I can't tell you the correct settings but hopefully a Vegas expert will be along soon...

[brickstar]

yes i am using the platinum edition there is an option for MPEG-4,i think.

video format - sony AVC (*.mp4,.m2ts,*.avc) opposed to

Main Concept MPEG-2(.mpg,*m2v,*m2t,*.mpa

these templates seem a bit more realistic.

video teplates-blu-ray 1400x1080-50i,8 mbps video stream

and 1920x1080-24p,25 mbps video stream.

no other options on the audio format and audio template

no AC-3

sorry for waffling just trying to give as much info as possible,would be nice to know if it is at all possible.after looking around i am positive you cant burn AVCHD discs in vegas just edit in AVCHD.always learning.

thanks

[alpine101]

I'm afraid this is a demonstration of the chaotic and amateurish way that Sony, Panasonic and their other cronies have developed AVCHD and Bluray.

The AVCHD format generated by Sony Moviestudio, and their higher level products will not read from a DVD on the Pannys as you've discovered. It's very annoying since the disk is recognised as AVCHD by the player, but it then goes on to say it can't play it. (Anyone know whether they work on a Sony BD player?)

But you can fix this, though the method is a bit involved. There's a full post on this in the link I'll give at the end of this message.
Essentially:
1 You generate the Bluray image using Moviestudio, and just let it create the ISO image file.
2. Then you extract all the files from the ISO image file, using a piece of freeware called VirtualCloneDrive, and put it all in a directory somewhere.
3. Then you follow the post below and patch a file in that image with a freeware patcher.
4. Then you edit the patched file, and one other, to change a single character in each.
5. Then you use another piece of freeware Imgburn, to write your disk using the complete folder as your source.

It works, and I do it with DVD+RWs. The post is here:
AVS Forum - View Single Post - My Blu-Ray Movie Burning Experiences...


PS Another way, if you particularly like the Sony editor, is to let it generate an AVCHD file rather than a disk, then use Corel Videostudio 11.5 or X2 just to burn the disk from the file that Moviestudio has created. You go straight to the 'Share' tab, and it has an AVCHD disk output option. You may need to rename the file from .mpg to .m2ts for VS to see it. AVCHD disks made by the Corel product work on the BD35.

[brickstar]

oh my god you are a star thank you so much just tried the first way and it worked a treat,made me laugh that something had been developed and left for its customers to fine tune,hang on where have i seen that before............

will probably try the other way at some point to but i really do like vegas and am so glad i can stick with it.

thanks again,this is a great forum.

[alpine101]

Originally Posted by brickstar

oh my god you are a star thank you so much just tried the first way and it worked a treat,made me laugh that something had been developed and left for its customers to fine tune,hang on where have i seen that before............

will probably try the other way at some point to but i really do like vegas and am so glad i can stick with it.

thanks again,this is a great forum.

Not me originally, another poster elsewhere developed it all!
Incidentally, I note that some sellers on Amazon have Corel VS11 for sale at £20 or so plus p&p. Once registered this can be freely patched up to version 11.5, which provides AVCHD writing etc.

[brickstar]

it may not have been yours but thanks for passing it on and for the heads up on corel vs 11. twenty something quid sounds good.

[senu]

Nice one
Has anyone tried Nero Visions AVCHD discs for compatibilitiy.. on a Sony BD player? I know for a fact it Works on a PS3

[alpine101]

Having acquired my BD35, I've now tried 3 disk production methods on it, but NeroVision hasn't been one so far. I'm not sure if I have it installed, but I'll have a look.
1. Sony Vegas Moviestudio will not, as said before, produce a disk that can be read as AVCHD by the BD35 without the patching technique. In addition, it only allows for a PCM sound track and doesn't have an option for DD5.1. Quite ridiculous since, if instead of a disk, you choose to produce an AVCHD file with it, you can choose Dolby 5.1. It clearly demonstrates that the burner section of Moviestudio is a tacked on, ill thought out, measure to eliminate the untidiness of having to author the DVD separately. (of course the version of DVD architect that comes with Moviestudio can't even author HD disks....)
2. Corel Videostudio 11.5 or more can author AVCHD disks that play on the BD35, with DD5.1 sound.
3. Cyberlink Powerdirector 7 can author AVCHD disks for the BD35, they also have DD5.1 tracks.

[alpine101]

Tried an AVCHD disk made from the somewhat odd Nerovision 5, and that's OK too. For some reason it didn't add my clips together though, just produced a list on the screen. I remain an un-fan of Nero's stuff...
I also gave up on Adobe Elements having discovered it downmixes camcorder 5.1 sound to stereo

[senu]

Thanks, you gotta love AVCHD..

Ive always thought the disconnect between the hardware and software was wide . now I know for sure