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Help from panasonic owners
Hi there folks,
Just had my Panasonic HDC-HS9 cammy delivered and recorded to a 16gb sdhc card to check it out. I then placed the card in my Panny PZ81B to view it and was surprised to see a lot of fuzziness in the picture, even though it was in HA quality which is the highest quality of 1080P. Admittedly it was shot in the living room and the lighting was enough but when I recorded outside footage in the street it was better but still looked fuzzier than I had expected.
Is there any settings that need to be changed or is it just the way it is meant to be??
Any suggestions greatly appreciated as I thought the picture wasnt that different from my 10 yr old Sony Hi 8 camcorder and thought it should look a lot better!!
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30-09-2008, 7:56 PM
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Re: Help from panasonic owners
What does it look like when you plug the camcorder in to the display via HDMI or component cable? And what about the camcorder's LCD do you get the fuzziness then?
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01-10-2008, 5:48 AM
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Re: Help from panasonic owners
If you could clarify what you mean by "fuzziness" it would help. Do you mean the picture is soft as if not correctly in focus? Or are you referring to noise and grain in the image - it's in focus, but doesn't look clean?
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01-10-2008, 11:44 AM
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Re: Help from panasonic owners
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What does it look like when you plug the camcorder in to the display via HDMI or component cable? And what about the camcorder's LCD do you get the fuzziness then?
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I have not tried it yet connected via the HDMI cable and it is not fuzzy in the camcorders LCD, i have only just taken the SD card and inserted it into the TV's card slot as it is capable of playing AVCHD footage. I have not tried recording to the hard disc drive either, but thought that the picture should be smoother than it was, ie. no picture noise.
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01-10-2008, 11:50 AM
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Re: Help from panasonic owners
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If you could clarify what you mean by "fuzziness" it would help. Do you mean the picture is soft as if not correctly in focus? Or are you referring to noise and grain in the image - it's in focus, but doesn't look clean?
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Yes its in focus but there is a lot of noise and grain, not what i was expecting as I thought it would be a bit like HD picture quality on the HD channels (obviously not as good as they are using professional equipment).
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I have not tried it yet connected via the HDMI cable and it is not fuzzy in the camcorders LCD, i have only just taken the SD card and inserted it into the TV's card slot as it is capable of playing AVCHD footage.
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I think you need to do this, in order to determine if it's your TV or the camcorder.
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Yes its in focus but there is a lot of noise and grain, not what i was expecting as I thought it would be a bit like HD picture quality on the HD channels (obviously not as good as they are using professional equipment).
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You would expect a certain amount of grain if the light was quite low (ie. dimly lit room), but from what you stated previously it sounds like you get the same outdoors.
Is the camera set to the highest picture quality setting? Is it in auto mode?
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You would expect a certain amount of grain if the light was quite low (ie. dimly lit room), but from what you stated previously it sounds like you get the same outdoors.
Is the camera set to the highest picture quality setting? Is it in auto mode?
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The camera is on the HA setting which is the highest quality it can do and yes it was in the auto mode. The light in the room was a 200 watt bulb , so quite bright. I will view the footage connected via HDMI and also play it on the cameras' lcd as well to check. The TV is brand new and came the same day as the camera.
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02-10-2008, 12:21 PM
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Ok I've played back the footage from the SD card on the cameras' own lcd and to be honest, it looks great but the screen is so small, anything will look good on it and so cant really tell if the grain/noise is on it. I had a problem connecting the camera to the tv via hdmi as the cable I've got came with an adaptor to mini hdmi. This would not fit into the camera's hdmi socket as the plug was too thick. Shame the camera designers put the hdmi socket at the bottom of the battery compartment. Will now have to wait for a proper cable to see it via hdmi.Anyone else had a problem with the hdmi socket on the camera??
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Re: Help from panasonic owners
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Hi there folks,
Just had my Panasonic HDC-HS9 cammy delivered and recorded to a 16gb sdhc card to check it out. I then placed the card in my Panny PZ81B to view it and was surprised to see a lot of fuzziness in the picture, even though it was in HA quality which is the highest quality of 1080P. Admittedly it was shot in the living room and the lighting was enough but when I recorded outside footage in the street it was better but still looked fuzzier than I had expected.
Is there any settings that need to be changed or is it just the way it is meant to be??
Any suggestions greatly appreciated as I thought the picture wasnt that different from my 10 yr old Sony Hi 8 camcorder and thought it should look a lot better!!
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Are you in 25 fps mode, if so, disable it and it will record at 25 fps, PS, space required after the comma, before the "it", and you've missed the ending speach marks !.
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05-10-2008, 8:49 PM
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Re: Help from panasonic owners
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Are you in 25 fps mode, if so, disable it and it will record at 25 fps, PS, space required after the comma, before the "it", and you've missed the ending speach marks !.
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God ! I got that wrong, I meant to say it will then record at 50 fps, sorry 'bout that.
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God ! I got that wrong, I meant to say it will then record at 50 fps, sorry 'bout that.
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A 50Hz camcorder does not record at 50 frames per second. It records 25 frames per second, each frame consisting of two interlaced fields. There is a difference.
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13-10-2008, 5:05 PM
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A 50Hz camcorder does not record at 50 frames per second. It records 25 frames per second, each frame consisting of two interlaced fields. There is a difference.
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So ps3 luggs or whatever his/her name is got it all wrong and he thinks my grammer was bad  tut tut........here for advice not an English grammar lesson besides there was nothing wrong with my narrative.
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Re: Help from panasonic owners
Finally managed to view the footage through a hdmi cable and it did look a little better. I'm assuming it must be the indoor lighting that makes it look fuzzy as the outside footage is fantastic but if anyone can give me advice on what settings to have it on indoors in poor light will be much appreciated. I didnt really find much difference with the low light mode though.
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Re: Help from panasonic owners
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So ps3 luggs or whatever his/her name is got it all wrong and he thinks my grammer was bad  tut tut........here for advice not an English grammar lesson besides there was nothing wrong with my narrative.
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He was trying to be helpful and if your narrative wasn't conveying clarity , entitled to say it, I think,
HZ = cycles per second, easy mistake to make especially as the technicality of how video is made isnt crystal clear
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