Sony SR10 Or Canon HF100

mrgti · 03-08-2008, 7:53 PM

I am looking to get a hd camcorder and spending about £550 after reading the forums i've narrowed it down to either the Sony SR10 of Canon HF100 but would like to know is one better than the other or are they about the same. All i would be using tha camcorder for is to record my kid growing up i know it will be down to personal choice but just wondered if anybody had any views
Thanks

kezman50 · 03-08-2008, 8:01 PM

All I can tell you is that I'm very, very pleased with my HF100!

redsox_mark · 04-08-2008, 5:58 AM

In terms of video quality, I think the HF100 has the edge. The HF100 and the SR11 are very similar in quality. The SR10 is good, but a small notch below the SR11 (and HF100).

mrgti · 04-08-2008, 7:40 AM

Thanks for the info guys but i suppose the real question is do i need a 1080p camcorder or could i tell little difference with a 1080i my TV only has 1080i but i must be getting sucked in by the marketing as i believe it must be 1080p!!

*A n d r e w* · 04-08-2008, 7:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mrgti

Thanks for the info guys but i suppose the real question is do i need a 1080p camcorder or could i tell little difference with a 1080i my TV only has 1080i but i must be getting sucked in by the marketing as i believe it must be 1080p!!

All camcorders in this price range record 1080i. Even camcorders that have a "progressive" mode deliver it in the interlaced format. It's not a problem. 1080i is the standard. Perhaps 1080p will be one day, but it isn't yet.

Andrew.

dave_bass5 · 04-08-2008, 8:40 AM

Another vote for the HF100 (i have the HF10).
My TV only goes up to 1080i but the footage from my HF10 compared to my older GS50 (DV) is astounding.
Im really only going to use it to film the kids growing up as well but as its so small i tend to keep it with my a lot of the time, even if i dont expect to use it.

I took my HF10 round to a mates house on Sunday and he has a full 1080P version of my TV and i really couldn't see a difference. We set both TV's up with the same settings, just to make sure everything else was even.

I think you should be able to get the HF100 for a little under your budget as well but of course you'll need to get a SD card or two.

hitman2411 · 04-08-2008, 8:58 AM

I have been mighty impressed with the SR10 I have. It was an impulse buy but its turned out to be way more than what I need at the moment, I have it for sale in the classifieds if you want to have a look

digitalsafari · 04-08-2008, 9:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Courtaj

All camcorders in this price range record 1080i. Even camcorders that have a "progressive" mode deliver it in the interlaced format. It's not a problem. 1080i is the standard. Perhaps 1080p will be one day, but it isn't yet.

PAL HF100 records real 1080 25p transported as 1080 25psf, the de-interlacer in the HD display detects this and shows the 1080 25p image.

PSF is Progressive Segmented Frame, the end result is progressive.

newbie1980 · 04-08-2008, 10:54 AM

out of

HF10
HF100
SR10
SR11

the SR11 is the only one with a viewfinder, right?

how much more than the SR10 is the SR11?

xmb · 04-08-2008, 1:00 PM

I opted for the SR12 (about £700 after Sony's £50 cash back) as I feel the view finder is a must. Try looking at an LCD screen on a beach with direct overhead sunlight!

If you are going to spend over £500 then you my as well get something that will perform in all situations.

At least with the Sony SR12 you won't run out of memory! (Only battery power!)

redsox_mark · 04-08-2008, 1:38 PM

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Originally Posted by newbie1980

out of

HF10
HF100
SR10
SR11

the SR11 is the only one with a viewfinder, right?

how much more than the SR10 is the SR11?

Depends where you get it from; looking at typical online prices there is around a £200 difference. (You can get the SR10 for under £500; the SR11 tends to be £675-£700). With both you can get £50 cashback now.

mrgti · 04-08-2008, 2:49 PM

Thanks for all the replys in the end i've chosen the Sony SR10 due to the price with cashback it comes in at £450!!

newbie1980 · 04-08-2008, 3:26 PM

funnily enough i am in the same boat. my daugher is 11 weeks old now and she is growing so fast that i really gotta by a camcorder now and not wait till something better comes along or prices drop. only problem is i want an HD cam with a viewfinder and the SR11 is about 100-200 quid above my budget, which was supposed to be 450, certainly no more than 550

i just don't see how i could live without a viewfinder if i wanna record in the sun

xmb · 04-08-2008, 4:30 PM

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Originally Posted by redsox_mark

(You can get the SR10 for under £500; the SR11 tends to be £675-£700). With both you can get £50 cashback now.

From the Sony cash back form I only see the SR12E and SR10E but NOT the SR11E (only the CX11E).

Looks like you need to make the jump to the SR12 if you want a view finder of try to find the SR11 for a price better than the £700 for the SR12E after cash back.

chrishull3 · 04-08-2008, 4:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xmb

I opted for the SR12 (about £700 after Sony's £50 cash back) as I feel the view finder is a must. Try looking at an LCD screen on a beach with direct overhead sunlight!

If you are going to spend over £500 then you my as well get something that will perform in all situations.

At least with the Sony SR12 you won't run out of memory! (Only battery power!)

You had a great deal,like you i cant live without a viewfinder i have tried with the lcd on mine and find it impossible to see enough to focus manualy if needed or do any basic filming functions,some manage and good luck to them.

redsox_mark · 04-08-2008, 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xmb

From the Sony cash back form I only see the SR12E and SR10E but NOT the SR11E (only the CX11E).

Looks like you need to make the jump to the SR12 if you want a view finder of try to find the SR11 for a price better than the £700 for the SR12E after cash back.

You are right - sorry about that. Thanks for the correction - the SR11 is indeed not in the offer. The SR10 and SR12 are (as is the CX11).

newbie1980 · 04-08-2008, 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by redsox_mark

You are right - sorry about that. Thanks for the correction - the SR11 is indeed not in the offer. The SR10 and SR12 are (as is the CX11).

The form that I downloaded includes the SR11

redsox_mark · 04-08-2008, 7:36 PM

Odd - the ones I've seen have the SR12 and 10 but not 11...

newbie1980 · 04-08-2008, 7:54 PM

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Originally Posted by redsox_mark

Odd - the ones I've seen have the SR12 and 10 but not 11...

http://media.sony-europe.com/uk/leaf...4ppleaflet.pdf

xmb · 05-08-2008, 6:41 AM

You have done well to find the leaflet containing the SR11 as there seems to be two versions on Sony's web site! The one I found excluded it. But it seems if you do a bit of searching you can find the one that includes the SR11!

At least it means you may be able to pick up a SR11 for about £630 after cash back.

A good buy in my opinion.

*A n d r e w* · 05-08-2008, 7:29 AM

Quite unusual given that the SR11 is absent from the "stunning range of High Definition products" in the illustration on page 4. I guess you could always phone the Sony "hotline" (ouch) to check: see item 7 in the terms & conditions.