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Old 17-07-2008, 12:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sony camcorder HDR-SR10E - Softwares

Hi,

I ordered the Sony SR10E from Dixons yesterday and was wondering the software it comes with are the best or decent enough for editing or transferring from High to Standard Definitions etc? any recommendations ??? By the way I have a decent HP, intel centrino laptop with 2GiG ram Windows XP but no Hdmi port etc.

Another thing, Can I record with SR10E in High Difinition (not Full HD and SD) as I have Sony RDR-HXD870, 160GB capacity, BRAVIA Sync and 1080p upscaling via HDMI? Can this DVD model play Full HD videos?

Thanks guys for reading....
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I ordered the Sony SR10E from Dixons yesterday and was wondering the software it comes with are the best or decent enough for editing or transferring from High to Standard Definitions etc? any recommendations ???
There are AVCHD editng software but I would suggest ulesd VS 11.5 or Pinnacle Studio 12
Sony Vegas Movie Studio is good but there are issues regarding what you do once you've edited as it doesn't output back to AVCHD
Nero 8 ( Showtime4) and UleadMovie Factory 6+ have some editng ability although primarily for authoring discs
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By the way I have a decent HP, intel centrino laptop with 2GiG ram Windows XP but no Hdmi port etc.
Is it a core2 duo? Youll need that as a bare minimum

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Another thing, Can I record with SR10E in High Difinition (not Full HD and SD) as I have Sony RDR-HXD870, 160GB capacity, BRAVIA Sync and 1080p upscaling via HDMI? Can this DVD model play Full HD videos?
No . it doesnt understand Hi def Full HD, 1080i or even 720p
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Thanks Senu for the help...much appreciated .

Its a bit strange, SR10E can record in SD but not HD, I will have to updgrade my DVD player to Blue-ray....

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Thanks Senu for the help...much appreciated .

Its a bit strange, SR10E can record in SD but not HD, I will have to updgrade my DVD player to Blue-ray....

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How come?
The SR 10 can record both HD and SD one advantage they have over Canons HDD camcorder which only seem to be able to record HD
Like all camcorders though it will only output SD from av conposite and s-video ( if it has that)
Some camcorders can output SD from component but it is more usually for HD and of course HDMI is HD only
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Ermmm .........
1- There is standard definitions tv (the old CRT type tv)
2- Than came High Definitions flat one (sony kdl-32S2500)
3- Than/now came Full High Definitions (Kdl-40v3000)

So to confuse more...
1- There are Normal DVD players (standard ones)
2- Than high definition DVD players (high definitions)
3- Than Full High Definitions DVD players (Blue-ray, Xbox etc)

So what Im trying to say is ..I understand it can record in standard definition but Can SR10E record in high definition so I can play it on a high definition DVD player rather than record in Full high definition and play on a Blue-ray disc player.

Please forgiveme if Im not clear.....Im glad its Friday ...
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There are AVCHD editng software but I would suggest ulesd VS 11.5 or Pinnacle Studio 12
Sony Vegas Movie Studio is good but there are issues regarding what you do once you've edited as it doesn't output back to AVCHD
Nero 8 ( Showtime4) and UleadMovie Factory 6+ have some editng ability although primarily for authoring discs

Is it a core2 duo? Youll need that as a bare minimum


No . it doesnt understand Hi def Full HD, 1080i or even 720p
I'd be wary of Studio 12. I have a new install UVEM and no audio comes through at all. Ulead works fine with AVCHD.

I wish someone would come out with a Bluray format HD camcorder.....
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Ermmm .........
1- There is standard definitions tv (the old CRT type tv)
2- Than came High Definitions flat one (sony kdl-32S2500)
3- Than/now came Full High Definitions (Kdl-40v3000)

So to confuse more...
1- There are Normal DVD players (standard ones)
2- Than high definition DVD players (high definitions)
3- Than Full High Definitions DVD players (Blue-ray, Xbox etc)

So what Im trying to say is ..I understand it can record in standard definition but Can SR10E record in high definition so I can play it on a high definition DVD player rather than record in Full high definition and play on a Blue-ray disc player.

Please forgiveme if Im not clear.....Im glad its Friday ...
For Hi def playback there are Bluray players and the likes of PS3

The DVD standard does not support hi def, As such there are no " Hi definition DVD players".
Marketing may describe them as such becuse they can upscale SD to produse pseudo hi def and have HDMI jacks but they really can only accept as input, standard def material


AS such Any DVD player which cam upscale SD to 720 p or 1080i is producing "fake" hi def. I actually have 2 of them , the Denon 1920 and Samsung HD 950

I wouldn't get too engroosed in "HD ready" and "Full HD" as most 1080p displays will scale 1080i to 1080p
Alot of the time you will struggle to see the difference TBH

Sufice to say that DVD players will not play any hi def material, wherever it comes from
So , if you want to watch the Hi def recording from the SR 10 on an upscaling DVD player , you need to record it in SD only ( or convert Hi def to SD on the PC)
If you want to want Hi def as Hi def :You need to
Use the PC
PS3 ( or similar meidia player like "Popcorn hour")
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BD player
BD player will need a BD burner and discs: costly buisness
Some sony BD players (and the PS3) can play a form of BD which is burnt to DVD disc called "AVCHD disc" . Thses disc will not play on an ordinary DVD player and indded most non Sony BD players
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I'd be wary of Studio 12. I have a new install UVEM and no audio comes through at all. Ulead works fine with AVCHD.

I wish someone would come out with a Bluray format HD camcorder.....
Im sorry you find Pinnacle 12 is giving you these Problems.Thier user forums are way better than thier costomer support anyway. Avid whichbought them) is not being supportive enough it seems
Pinnacle have had a chequered history of rushed releases fixing them later with patches but that did not happen with ver 11 and ver 10 was fine quite early on
Ulead is rather more consisitent but it isnt universally loved, Some on here love the GUI and relative stability but not quality of results
others swear by it
I rather like Movie factory myself
Pinnacle Studio ( when it works ) has a far better GUI but that is no good if it keeps freezing ect
Sony Vegas MSP 8 has no AVCHD output and has issiues with non Sony camcorders but it is stable and easy to use once you get past the rather unfamiliar GUI

BD format HD camcorders have been made but did not catch on
Where are the disc and what do youplayback on?
Is why they never causght on
Disc based camcorders are never going to get peoples pulses racing..
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