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Old 25-09-2007, 10:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

Having problems making a DL DVD for days. I've got nero 7. I've encoded the dv files from my camcorder using nero vision (part of nero 7 platinum) and then it gives an error roughly halfway through burning, before its switched to the next layer. Heres the error from the log:
[21:34:18] NeroVision Session fixation error
[21:34:18] NeroVision F: _NEC DVD+-RW ND-3450A
[21:34:18] NeroVision Could not perform end of Disc-at-once
[21:34:18] NeroVision Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

Is it possible to create a image file instead with nero that could be used to burn the dvd with another software package? I want to used Nero to create the DVd because I put so much time and work into the menus etc

Has anyone managed to get nero to work for them? I posted this query here because its to do with making a DVD from a DV file and maybe that has something to do with the problems I'm getting.
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Old 25-09-2007, 11:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

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Having problems making a DL DVD for days. I've got nero 7. I've encoded the dv files from my camcorder using nero vision (part of nero 7 platinum) and then it gives an error roughly halfway through burning, before its switched to the next layer. Heres the error from the log:
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Is it possible to create a image file instead with nero that could be used to burn the dvd with another software package?
Yes , use the Image recorder in Nero as your "burner" to produce an *.nrg file
You can then rename this as an ISO file to use in any other program. You do this by replacing the *.nrg extension with *.iso . Singh400 and some others on here swear by Imgburn ..

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I want to used Nero to create the DVd because I put so much time and work into the menus etc
Try Ulead MovieFactory Youll be less impressed with Nero

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Has anyone managed to get nero to work for them? I posted this query here because its to do with making a DVD from a DV file and maybe that has something to do with the problems I'm getting.
I have used Nero on occasion without a hitch . Certainly though there are better programs

As an aside.. If you install Nero Image Drive.. You can "mount " *.nrg or ISO image files and play them as if they were optical discs.
I use it to enable me make multiple copies of DVD/CD , in a laptop , and as an archive for projects
But an advantage to use is that you can test projects before making proper disc copies
In general I personally avoid DL discs for video. Even if you get a great burn, there is no guarantee of compatibility with settop Players.. and they tend to cost more than 4 single discs
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Old 26-09-2007, 8:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

I'll second using Imgburn also it will list what format discs your writer can use and check for fimware updates. However not all burners will work with All Brands of D/ls
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Re: Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

Thanks guys. Well I got hold of imgburn and opned up the nero img file. I selected 'display IFO layer break information. It said," optimal L1 data zone start LBA: Not found! This image has not been mastered correctly for burning onto a double layer (OTP track path) disc. None of the cells meet the DVD Video Spec for a potential layer break position."

Hmm that'll be why. I'm amazed Nero is on version 7 and they can't get this bit right, or is it my fault? What do I do to remaster the disc? I tried ulead, its good but it doesn't do slide shows ( I made a slide show with nero for this disc image)
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Old 26-09-2007, 7:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

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Thanks guys. Well I got hold of imgburn and opned up the nero img file. I selected 'display IFO layer break information. It said," optimal L1 data zone start LBA: Not found! This image has not been mastered correctly for burning onto a double layer (OTP track path) disc. None of the cells meet the DVD Video Spec for a potential layer break position."
You can still burn to a DVD folder, then get other software (Roxio) to turn it into a DVD video disc ..or image
...or you can do your editing or slideshow creation on another software.

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Hmm that'll be why. I'm amazed Nero is on version 7 and they can't get this bit right, or is it my fault? What do I do to remaster the disc?
Hard to say.. i would try something else or try the above
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I tried ulead, its good but it doesn't do slide shows
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It does ... I use ver 5 Ver 6 certainly does ( says so here ) In fact it does them rather well but it doesn't readily make that feature known. it is much better than Nero in that aspect of things. Seems to me you dont want to learn Ulead MovieFactory

Saying that I tend to use Proshow Gold for slide shows.
It really is good for Slide shows and can output them as DVD video, VCD PC CD, Exe file, Mpeg2, screen saver .
The Mpeg2 can be used to make a DVD in another application or used to supplement Video footage
Give it a go, the downloadable trial is fully working
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Old 26-09-2007, 8:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

Ah. I was using ulead moviefactory2. I guess its a bit out of date now!
Ok. I extracted all the Video_TS files from the image. I used Imgburn to remaster the disc and set the layer break. 23 minutes into the burning I get this:
"I/O ERROR! ....Interpretation: Check condition.... Write error. Retry or cancel." retry gives the same error. I think I might give up. These DL discs are pricey and I have 2 coasters now.
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Old 26-09-2007, 8:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

Ver 2 is "a bit out of date?".. like 8mm video tape

Really.!!..... I cant even find my ver4 discs..

I really dont like DL discs for video I always found them a bit of hit or miss but in order not to waste discs..
Why dont you make your slideshows in Nero ( if you must..) output them as mpeg2, then Author your DVD , make a Disc image , and mount it in Image drive to see if it works..
Doesn't cost you any discs.. only time
My other grouse with DL disc for video apart from cost is non guaranteed compatibility with playback devices
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Re: Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

Oh I've done that. My dual layer dvd image looks ok. I opened it using nero image drive and powerdvd played it fine. I think what I have here must be writer or disc issues? I'm using Hewlett Packard DVD +R DL discs, not cheap. I'm on the verge of giving up to burn a single layer disc and using a bitrate of about 5200KBs so it fits. Its about 1hr 45 long plus the slide show which only takes up about 100MB. Some people would be happy about that. But I err on the side of caution. I would hate to spot even the tiniest bit of pixelation. Call me fussy. And I want to use these damn DL discs!

I might now save them for use in my DVD recorder, maybe it will handle them I hope. How about encoding to divx instead? I did read a lot about it but got confused when people started recommend deinterlacing the video. Surely I need to keep it interlaced if I'm watching it on my CRT TV?
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Re: Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

HP dvd's not cheap ? who makes them you might be surprised very few are made by the mname on the tin I would try some verbatim
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Re: Anyone had luck burning a DV AVI to DL DVD using Nero vision?

Forget Divx for now.. experiment another day...

I suspect 1 hr 45 on a single layer disc should be quite fine.. and trouble free and less costly compared to what is happening now

It may just be that the ISO image is well made but your Discs and burner refuse to see eye to eye especially if it happens when Nero is out if the equation but I urge you to look beyond Nero for Software both for Slideshows and for DVD authoring...
There is more out there..
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HP dvd's not cheap ? who makes them you might be surprised very few are made by the mname on the tin I would try some verbatim
They aren't cheap.. and compared to verbatim not really special.
However all dual layer discs seem expensive to me.
I have used a few for video which would not play on many players so i just consigned myself to use them as a secondary back up for images from Digital SLR
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Ok tips greatfully recieved. So the latest version of ulead is a good way to go? I actually edited the dv files in windowsmoviemaker even though I have ulead and studio9. I found it easier to do what I wanted, eg fades and I didn't have to read pages of manual just to work out which of the many buttons did what I wanted to do. I know that might sound lazy, but I just got on with WMM a lot better.

I'm not generally lazy, I have used virtualdub to encode video before and gone through all those stages, but life ain't half flying by quickly.
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Ok tips greatfully recieved. So the latest version of ulead is a good way to go? I actually edited the dv files in windowsmoviemaker even though I have ulead and studio9. I found it easier to do what I wanted, eg fades and I didn't have to read pages of manual just to work out which of the many buttons did what I wanted to do. I know that might sound lazy, but I just got on with WMM a lot better.

I'm not generally lazy, I have used virtualdub to encode video before and gone through all those stages, but life ain't half flying by quickly.
I have access to and sometimes have to train in the use of different software ( in additon to a busy full time job) so I with you on 24 hrs a day being barely enough
To answer your question directly. baring any bad luck Ulead movie factory is great. even then sometimes Ive had to make images off it and burn via Nero!

I have made DVDs with footage edited in Vegas, Avid Liquid and slide show made in Proshow gold but put together in Movie factory4/5.. or Movie workshop2 ( which they seem to have stopped developing) or Sony DVD Architect
You can try them as trials..if they don't appeal to you.. uninstall them
As an aside I now use Microsofts Virtual PC to avoid getting trial stuff on my PC... but that is another story
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