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Old 21-12-2006, 12:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Editing with Sony HDR-HC1E and Adobe Premiere pro - capturing in DV?

I've got an HDR-HC1E and I've never done any editing before. I got myself a copy of Adobe Premiere Pro and I've been trying to capture content from tape to PC. Yesterday I bought a firewire card and everything seems to be fine. If the camera is on "CAMERA-TAPE" which is record mode then premiere pro shows the video in capture mode, but I need to capture footage thats been recorded on tape already, and thats in the "PLAY-EDIT" mode, and Premiere pro doesnt show the video when I change to that mode. I hope I'm explaining myself correctly here. If I try change the video format to "DV" from "HDV" in the PLAY-EDIT mode then the camera says "No output image in "VCR HDV/DV", change format". I think by that it means that there is no footage recorded in DV format, its in HDV so the setting must be changed, but I need to capture in DV format.

I'm really confusing myself and most probably you as well. Anyone got any advice, this camera is insanely complicated, for me anyway.
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Old 21-12-2006, 1:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Editing with Sony HDR-HC1E and Adobe Premiere pro - capturing in DV?

You are indeed correct with your assumption.

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If I try change the video format to "DV" from "HDV" in the PLAY-EDIT mode then the camera says "No output image in "VCR HDV/DV", change format". I think by that it means that there is no footage recorded in DV format, its in HDV so the setting must be changed, but I need to capture in DV format.
Unfortunately I don't use Premiere for editing but these are the camcorder settigns I use on the HC1E for capturing footage:

1. Camcorder set to Play/Edit
2. VCR/HDV/DV setting set to 'HDV' not 'Auto'

I had all sorts or problems getting Liquid to capture when the camcorder was set to 'Auto' mode in the setup menu.

3. i.LInk Conv set to 'Off'

Hopefully that will allow Premier to capture.

If you still have no joy, try downloading the trial versions of Sony Vegas or Pinnacle Studio 10. You can then at least check you can capture footage and work out whether the problem lies with the Premiere software or the camcorder.
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Old 21-12-2006, 2:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Editing with Sony HDR-HC1E and Adobe Premiere pro - capturing in DV?

This is what I mean. If I have PLAY/EDIT enabled, with mode HDV, in premiere it wont show the Play/stop/record buttons (at bottom of screen
http://www.avforums.com/forums/attac...1&d=1166712934

But with DV mode enabled, it shows the buttons, almost like premiere is willing to capture from DV but not from HDV

http://www.avforums.com/forums/attac...1&d=1166712924


Oh, and iLink conv is off
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Re: Editing with Sony HDR-HC1E and Adobe Premiere pro - capturing in DV?

I'm quoting from a book here ''Because Pro2 supports both Dv and HDV capture and editing via firewire. There is a new single devicecontrol driver. DV/HDV Device control .toload it go Edit>Preferences>devicecontrol In the Device contol pane of the Preferences dialog select the control method from the devices drop down menu,then manually adjust those controls by clicking the options buton and entering the information that matches the device you are using.Each camera or deckhas its own unique protocol and its important you set the options before capturing. Hope this makes some sense Pro is not the most user friendy especially for newbies of which I am also one
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Old 21-12-2006, 8:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Editing with Sony HDR-HC1E and Adobe Premiere pro - capturing in DV?

The HDR HC 1 is not that complicated once you get to learn it .

Experimenting with changing the output options from auto to DV or HDV and enabling i- link on / off will get you there eventually .
I've captured HDV with it from Vegas, Avid Liquid 7 , Pinnacle Studio 10.5 and Ulead MS 10.

I am not sure of Adobe Premiere pro 2 though. I haven't used Premiere since 1.5 Jaymac may well have the solution.

In Vegas, when you select capture video, the capture utility asks if you wish to capture DV or HDV ( both via firewire) then loads the appropriate capture driver based on your selection

I hope you find a workabout , BTW why not try capturing down converted SD first to see if the promise of DV capture works?!

As an aside, If you find the HC1 bewildering , I suspect Premiere may be just as unfriendly especially if you've never done any editing before. Starting with HDV editing on top of that sounds challenging ( to me) but may prove straightforward for you especially if your kit is top grade and you pick things up fast ( Im a bit on the slow side... my kids ( and their mother) tell me )

Fortunately though it has a large enough user base to find help fairly easily although it doesn't seem to come up much for mention in these Forums

HDV split is a free HDV capture utility you may find handy regardless of you current dilemma with Premiere and the HC1. It works without any fuss ( and has the advantage of capturing and splitting the file for ease of editing

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