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05-11-2006, 10:09 PM
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Hello all,
not sure if any1 can help me with this problem, however, any advice would be appreciated.
during the summer i recorded my sisters wedding on my sony dcr-tvr255e camcorder, the tapes used were sony digital 8, all the recordings came out fine on playback so the next step was to convert to dvd in order i could give copies to all and sundry...
ok - so having connected the camcorder to a borrowed dvd recorder (liteon) using the standard yellow,red, white cable i started the transfer, everything seemed work fine and the video tape to dvd worked, or so i thought.
i gave a copy of the recorded disc to my sister and thought that was it, although i was told that the recorded disc either froze when trying to fast forward, or at the odd point experienced a playback problem, like a 'northern lights' type thing, if you see what i mean.
i think the main issue though is the freezing of the disc when trying to fast forward and was hoping if some1 could offer any help, the discs used to record from the digital 8 tape were mainly Logik brandm although i did use a TDK 1 as well and the same thing happened.
thanks
gary
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05-11-2006, 10:42 PM
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I doubt it is anything to do with your camcorder. More likely to be the disc used, your recorder, your sister's player, or a combination of all three.
You can try with different, high quality discs - e.g. ones which use a Taiyo Yuden dye. Or try the discs on some different players.
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06-11-2006, 9:30 AM
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Originally Posted by redsox_mark I doubt it is anything to do with your camcorder. More likely to be the disc used, your recorder, your sister's player, or a combination of all three.
You can try with different, high quality discs - e.g. ones which use a Taiyo Yuden dye. Or try the discs on some different players. | thanks Mark,
the discs i used were Logik DVD+RW, Imation DVD-RW,
i was suspect of the discs, can u recommend a particular brand, i could then get a box and try them.
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06-11-2006, 9:39 AM
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I recommend these: http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=1217
There are a limited number of DVD manufacturers and many more brand names. Taiyo Yuden is the best quality manufacturer in my view (and lots of reports to back this up). Verbaitm is one of the best brand names. Combine the two, and you have the excellent disc manufacture, and additional quality control from Verbatim.
Some DVD recorders and some players are more "fussy" than others. The discs you made may play fine on other players, just not your sisters. But using the best discs you can maximises the chance of success.
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06-11-2006, 12:06 PM
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Mark has covered the variables of your DVD recorder and sisters DVD Player ( in addition to discs)
Some ( reocorders) and players also to do better with Single use ( rather than rerecordable discs) . But sticking to Well known Media also minimises potential incompatibily from them
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06-11-2006, 12:22 PM
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thanks to both of you for the advice, i'll order another brand and try again
gary
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06-11-2006, 1:11 PM
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Senu makes a good point: RW discs are generally harder to read (less compatible) than the +R/-R formats.
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09-11-2006, 8:43 PM
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Originally Posted by redsox_mark I recommend these: http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=1217
There are a limited number of DVD manufacturers and many more brand names. Taiyo Yuden is the best quality manufacturer in my view (and lots of reports to back this up). Verbaitm is one of the best brand names. Combine the two, and you have the excellent disc manufacture, and additional quality control from Verbatim.
Some DVD recorders and some players are more "fussy" than others. The discs you made may play fine on other players, just not your sisters. But using the best discs you can maximises the chance of success. | Hello Mark,
I picked these up from PC World today - Verbatim DVD+R Advanced AZO+, 16*, pack of 50 for £14.99.
have you any opinions on the differences between the +R and -R on these, what would be the main difference?
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09-11-2006, 8:52 PM
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Originally Posted by garyb3 Hello Mark,
I picked these up from PC World today - Verbatim DVD+R Advanced AZO+, 16*, pack of 50 for £14.99.
have you any opinions on the differences between the +R and -R on these, what would be the main difference?
gary | None, in practical terms If you have a multiformat writer
I use them interchangably. They are different discs but the advantages/ disadvantages which were touted in the early days to promote them by the various developers of the each format have long since dissapeared
PS:That was a good price BTW!
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09-11-2006, 9:37 PM
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Agree, there are some small technical differences in the structure, but pretty much interchangeable. DVD-R tends to be slightly more compatible - some machines reject +R by design. With some DVD writers you can set the "booktype" of the +R discs to make them look like a proper DVD-ROM; these are highly compatible.
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Last edited by redsox_mark; 10-11-2006 at 11:45 AM.
Reason: corrected "bookmark" to "booktype"
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09-11-2006, 9:39 PM
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thanks sendu
i've been doing a bit of looking round as well and think the problem may well lye with by dvd burner, the 1 i have is an optorite dd0401, there doesnt appear to have been a firmware update for sometime, i haven't managed to find anything recent and wondering if this burner may be part, if not all of the problem, i'm going to get by brother in law (hopefully) to give it a try on his machine as its more up to date.
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09-11-2006, 9:54 PM
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Originally Posted by redsox_mark Agree, there are some small technical differences in the structure, but pretty much interchangeable. DVD-R tends to be slightly more compatible - some machines reject +R by design. With some DVD writers you can "bookmark" the +R discs to make them look like a proper DVD-ROM; these are highly compatible. | Hi Mark
Since I think it was you who picked me up for misuse of terminology in a similar discussion some 6 months ago I am going to do the same
For "Bookmark" please read " Booktype"
Better still please see http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Incr...itsetting.html | |
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09-11-2006, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by garyb3 thanks sendu
i've been doing a bit of looking round as well and think the problem may well lye with by dvd burner, the 1 i have is an optorite dd0401, there doesnt appear to have been a firmware update for sometime, i haven't managed to find anything recent and wondering if this burner may be part, if not all of the problem, i'm going to get by brother in law (hopefully) to give it a try on his machine as its more up to date.
gary | Not a problem .. DVD burners are pretty cheap £25 for a 16X multiformat, dual layer burner , so dont hold on to the optorite if it is a "stumbling block"
The "Bookmark/ Booktype" discussion by Mark and Analogue  regarding the ability of the DVD software/ hardware combo to give the burnt DVD better universal compatibility is worth knowing although it may not affect your use in practical terms
Being a simpleton I have tried to understand it (  ) but find that lately the ( real as it happens) instances of incompatibility are that much less
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10-11-2006, 8:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Analogue | My apologies... yes I meant "booktype".
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