Vegas 7 Native MPEG?

[dejongj]

I've been looking at the specs for Vegas 7, but nothing jumps out at me that it supports native MPEG editing without the need for reencoding......Surely I must have missed something and Sony has implemented that feature?

Does anyone know?

[redsox_mark]

I wish they had.... no, Vegas 7 does not do any "smart rendering" of MPEG.

Editing performance of mpeg (SD or HD) is much better than V6. But it re-encodes all mpeg. I've been trialing it and have seen for myself.

[dejongj]

Excuse my language but what a bunch of idiots...Even premiere does it now without plugins....

Ah well, I stay clear from it for a while longer...Real shame...

[senu]

Originally Posted by dejongj

Excuse my language but what a bunch of idiots...Even premiere does it now without plugins....

Ah well, I stay clear from it for a while longer...Real shame...

Not tried it .
I might trial it to see what better than V6 mpeg editing translates to . Maybe they are convinced that reencoded mpegs ( apart from time taken ) from Vegas are not significanly "degraded".
Still its hard to explain what seems to be such an oversight with so many HDD and solid state camcorders, coming into being

[dejongj]

I must admit I don't mind the degradation too much...As I don't find that 1st or 2nd generation differences are truly visible when you watch it....But time taken is something of concern I think.....My time is very precious to me...

[redsox_mark]

"better than V6 mpeg editing" for me translates into (using HDV MPEG - haven't done much with SD MPEG yet, but I think it is also faster):

On a 1.6 GHZ Pentium M laptop:

V6:

- Any operations on the timeline were sluggish. E.g. click on a specific point on the timeline, it would take a second or 2 to move to that frame.

- Even with just a single video stream and no effects, only got about 3 frames per second preview.

- Summary: Not usable.

V7:

- Operations on the timeline are immediate - just like editing DV.

- Full rate preview on a single video stream. (When composting 2 streams, not full rate... about 15 fps).

Summary: Perfectly usable... though if you have lots of tracks and a slowish PC still not as fast as editing DV.

Render times between V6 and V7 don't seem to have changed much.