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Old 08-05-2006, 9:31 PM   #1
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Record VCR Tape to Camcorder

Hi Folks, this is my first post here and hopefully somebody will be able to help.

I have a Sony DCR-TRV22E MiniDV Digital HandyCam.

I am trying to connect my Camcorder to my VCR and record a VCR tape onto my Camcorder so eventually I can get the film onto my PC. I have connected my Camcorder to my TV using A/V cable. (the yellow, red and white cable )

The operations manual explains how to do it and I have followed it to the letter. But when I start playback on my VCR the movie does not appear on the LCD screen on my Camcorder thus I am not able to record the movie.

My home theatre setup includes a TV, DVD and VCR. The weird thing is when I connect my Camcorder to the DVD player using the A/V cable and start playback I can record DVD's onto my Camcorder no problem, which leads me to believe that it is something stupid that I am missing or not setup correctly on my VCR.

Hopefully somebody has seen this problem before and has a fix for it and can sort me out.

Cheers in advance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-05-2006, 6:55 AM   #2
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Is it the same lead your using for recording from the DVD player as the VCR ?
What lead(cnnections) are you using exactly?

have you actually looked to see if the footage is recorded on the tape irrelevant that there is no picture on the LCD ?
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Old 09-05-2006, 7:15 AM   #3
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I have connected my Camcorder to my TV
I suspect you need to connect directly to your VHS player as the TV connections are most likely input only......
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Old 09-05-2006, 8:18 AM   #4
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Not only do you want to connect the AV cable to the VCR and not the TV, you probably need to connect it to the “TV” Scart connection on the VCR, using a 2-way SCART to video converter, something like this http://www.keene.co.uk/cgi-bin/codesearch.pl?KA127S

The reason being that generally the VCR “phono” sockets are input only, and the only output is the “TV” SCART on the VCR. Also, many SCART to phono adapters supplied with camcorders are also input only… you need output.

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Old 09-05-2006, 2:39 PM   #5
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Thanks for the response, it's greatly appreciated.

fcat:

I have tried to record even though I don't get a picture on my LCD screen, same result, my movie does not record to my Camcorder

shoehorn:

I have already tried connecting my camcorder directly to the VCR using the A/V cable but got the same result. I should have mentioned that in the original post

redsox_mark:

Im going to try ur solution, it looks the most promising

Again thanks for the help and i'll let u's know how I get on, cheers.
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Old 09-05-2006, 3:15 PM   #6
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I have already tried connecting my camcorder directly to the VCR
Sort of thought that you might have done - but you never know - so it's best to mention it just in case.....
Hope it works out - let us know how you get on...... and ask away if you've any more questions or need any more help - it's a friendly bunch here.......
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Old 09-05-2006, 6:26 PM   #7
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Alright Folks,

I just ordered the scart plug from ebay, I got it for £1.50.

I'll get back to you's when I try it out, Cheers
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Old 13-05-2006, 7:30 PM   #8
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Alright Folks,

RedSox_Mark you are a legend, as soon as I plugged in the Scart Plug with the output option it worked a treat.

Thanks alot mate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 13-05-2006, 8:02 PM   #9
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Glad you got it sorted!

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Old 27-01-2010, 3:24 PM   #10
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Yes BUT!

I was searching the web when by luck I came across g_loaded question which was similar to a problem I was experiencing. I immediately purchased the Scart recommended by redsox_mark. I setup my Samsung camcorder with my Sony VCR and voila! I managed to record to the camcorder - BUT - in monochrome only. Any suggestions?
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Old 27-01-2010, 3:41 PM   #11
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Are you feeding the video from the camcorder via an S-Video lead? If so then that is why you get a black & white picture as a VHS VCR can not work with an S-Video signal.
S-Video separates the luminance & chrominance parts of the video signal onto a 2 core connection, but a VHS VCR will only be looking for a single video signal and will therefore not see the chrominance (colour info) part of the signal.

So to get a colour picture onto VHS you need to replace the S-Video cable with a composite video (yellow phono) cable from the camcorder to scart adapter.

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Old 27-01-2010, 4:33 PM   #12
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Thanks for prompt reply

As you will no doubt guess, I am new to the forum world and also a novice in terms of data transfer.
Thank you for such a prompt reply, especially as it was to a very old thread.
At present I am using an S/Video to S/Video lead together with a Video/Vidio(L)/Vidio(R) i.e white,red and yellow from scart adaptor to the camcorder via an A/V plug.
I quickly looked on Amazon at 'a composite video (yellow phono) cable' and this seems to equate to the yellow cable mentioned above.
Am I using too much electrical spaghetti?
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Old 27-01-2010, 4:58 PM   #13
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Yes, just remove the S-video cable from the equation and plug the yellow phono on the AV lead into the scart adapter instead. This will now carry both audio & video from camcorder to VCR and you should get a colour picture

Mark.
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Old 27-01-2010, 5:11 PM   #14
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I'll give it a try

Thanks Mark,

I'll give it a try, other more domestic problems call at the moment. I'll let you know the outcome, most probably tomorrow.

Cheers

Peter
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Old 28-01-2010, 2:21 PM   #15
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What can I say?

Mark,

I have spent hours trying to fathom the mysteries of transferring images from my VCR back to my camcorder. If only I had consulted AVForums earlier and by doing so, tapped into the considerable knowledge of the two Mark's i.e. redsox_mark and yourself.

Needless to say unplugging the S-Video cable worked.

Thanks a bundle

Peter
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Old 28-01-2010, 5:34 PM   #16
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Are you feeding the video from the camcorder via an S-Video lead? If so then that is why you get a black & white picture as a VHS VCR can not work with an S-Video signal.
S-Video separates the luminance & chrominance parts of the video signal onto a 2 core connection, but a VHS VCR will only be looking for a single video signal and will therefore not see the chrominance (colour info) part of the signal.

So to get a colour picture onto VHS you need to replace the S-Video cable with a composite video (yellow phono) cable from the camcorder to scart adapter.

Mark.
only svhs videos had/have S video inputs as far as i know, the socket gives colour with svhs and machines with the sockets on them.Removing the yellow lead may well have had the same affect.

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Old 29-01-2010, 5:51 PM   #17
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S-Video - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia History of the svhs input
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