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30-09-2009, 5:09 PM
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Greets to all!
We've got a baby on the way 
And now I've got to choose a camcorder.
Got a Panasonic 1080p TV so heading towards the same brand
Got £600 to play with, maybe more, if I can sell my train set...
Wanting to avoid a HDD, heading towards internal Flash mem + SD card
Really like SSD - but Samsung's HMX-H106BP doesn't quite impress - could
you convince me?
Liking the Pana TM20, but not liking the small 1/6" MOS
Wanting good all round performance, easy controls for Sarah to use
Do you know of any upcoming releases I could wait another month for?
All opinions, tips or advice gratefully received. 
Happy listening & viewing,
Dan
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30-09-2009, 6:33 PM
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Not the Samsung.. but is the 1/6th CMOS the only reason the Panny doesn't appeal?
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30-09-2009, 6:55 PM
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Yeah, I'm thinking maybe a larger CMOS would give better images and be more of a benefit than the image features of the panasonic. But really, for taking video of a baby, for posterity, for distant parents etc. would I see much benefit?
You like the TM20?
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30-09-2009, 7:03 PM
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I think there is little to chose from between today's camcorders in image quality , more in features
With Panasonic the HD9 is what Ive used ( low light not fantastic)
Canon HG 10 and Sony SR12
Im currently trialling Sony HDR XR200 and it is awesome in good light but indoors , not as great
This seems to be thier achilles heel mainly
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30-09-2009, 8:42 PM
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Originally Posted by loz | Looks very good
Glad to see Mic in Headphone in a viewfinder and manual zoom ring.. as well as independent iris and shutterspeed controls.. for less than £600 , and a 3 chip model
In that Panasonic really have the crown where Sony is cutting features tha matter , keeping prices high and offering gps and face detection..
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30-09-2009, 9:38 PM
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Originally Posted by senu Looks very good
Glad to see Mic in Headphone in a viewfinder and manual zoom ring.. as well as independent iris and shutterspeed controls.. for less than £600 , and a 3 chip model
In that Panasonic really have the crown where Sony is cutting features tha matter , keeping prices high and offering gps and face detection..  | I think you were mixing up the specs from the two cameras I referenced.
The £600 SD200 doesn't have the manual zoom or mic in.
But internally it is the same as the £850 TM300 I linked to, ao PQ wise that review should still be the same
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01-10-2009, 12:58 AM
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Thanks,
Still looks great though!
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01-10-2009, 6:42 AM
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Superb contributions!
Thanks for the tips. I will investigate and report back.
Muchas gracias!
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01-10-2009, 5:49 PM
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Ordered the sd200 today.
good CMOS.
v good stills
v good features
pixmania offering a good deal @ £515 (01/10/09)
Due to be delivered in the next 5 days. V. excited.
Am getting a verbatim HD video class6 32Gb card from amazon to go with it.
Good choice, y'think?
Am also looking at spare batteries - not much choice out there, ridiculously expensive Panny spares
3rd party batteries requiring their own chargers. Don't much like 'em from experience with cameras but any tips on brands would be v. welcome.
Ciao!
Dan
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01-10-2009, 7:32 PM
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Does the sd200 have an external mic and headphone socket? Quote:
Originally Posted by DPRichards Ordered the sd200 today.
good CMOS.
v good stills
v good features
pixmania offering a good deal @ £515 (01/10/09)
Due to be delivered in the next 5 days. V. excited.
Am getting a verbatim HD video class6 32Gb card from amazon to go with it.
Good choice, y'think?
Am also looking at spare batteries - not much choice out there, ridiculously expensive Panny spares
3rd party batteries requiring their own chargers. Don't much like 'em from experience with cameras but any tips on brands would be v. welcome.
Ciao!
Dan |
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02-10-2009, 2:16 PM
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Will report back when it arrives, no mention in the Panasonic website specs . . .
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02-10-2009, 2:28 PM
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According to the spec it does not, only the more expensive HDC-HS300 and HDC-TM300 in the current range on the UK website. Quote:
Originally Posted by DPRichards Will report back when it arrives, no mention in the Panasonic website specs . . . |
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02-10-2009, 11:43 PM
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Im based in Australia and am in the same position wanting a HD camcorder to film an upcoming baby for friends and family to see back in the UK.
I think this is the comparable Australian model can someone confirm please, it seems to be the same apart from the fact it has an SD card and 16GB built in memory. HDC-TM200-K - Twin Memory Full HD Camcorder [HDC-TM200-K] - Panasonic Australia
Are you able to shoot in lower resolutions that FullHD? Its nice to have the option but for most videos SD or 720p would be more than adequate and im mindful that storage of a load of 1080p video is going to take some serious room
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03-10-2009, 4:47 AM
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Most of them can shoot in SD as well but Im not sure of 720p , maybe full HD but at varying bitrates
The Sony Im curently trialling cannot do 720p but it can do different 1080 AVC bitrates from "LP" , SQ, HQ FQ each biggr in filesize but bettr in quality
SD mpg2 is of course much smaller
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