[oasismark]

This is a question regarding multiplayer....

I'd say i'm a very average player, my kill/death ratio is almost always around evens (1:1) after a game on MP.

I have a few games where i'm on fire and can get in the top 3 in a team,(never been top yet). But then i also have shockers when i'm on a death streak before i can get a kill.

I'm about level 30 currently and now get a bit dissapointed when my ratio is even as i want to improve my game.

Been thinking about how to improve my game and why some people are just so good at this game and narrowed it down to:

• Create a Class
• Pure Luck
• Skill
• Knowledge

Create a class

Is it just fact that some weapons are much better at taking down a man?
Are the weapons unlocked at higher XP levels just much more powerful?
Can a 'create a class' really make or break a player?

It seams if i take off 'Stopping Power' it really shows in my game, or maybe its just like Dumbo with his feather, i cant do without it. My main weapon is M4A1, ive tried the MP5 that i used in COD4, and it seams so much worse in MW2, i cant control it, recoil sends it all over the place.

I seam hopeless at sniping too, When i've tried it, if i eventuallly get a man in my sights, he takes the bullet and keeps going? (Stopping power Off)

Pure Luck

Luck can certainly play a big part in this game, it seams if i come to a T junction, no matter which way i turn, it seams that coming from the other direction is a enemy who mowes me down, many killcams seam to be pot luck with spawning, etc. I thing LAG can fall into this catagory, it seams IW still havnt ironed out this bug.

Skill

Skill in reaction times, spotting movement on the horizon? This is where i think really good players have the edge. It takes me a good few games to get my reactions up to speed, i know my first few games on i'll be rubbish till i warm up. Maybe my reactions at 36 are getting slow?

Knowledge

Knowledge of maps and camping spots, creating a class thats perfect for each map, i just have a main 'create a class' that i use for all maps, surely it cant be optimum for every map. Having a good idea of what a emeny will do, must help, this must come with experiance but them some peopel must be naturaly better that others as thats expected.

So my question for top players is: What do you think makes you better than the average gamer?

And a question for other mear mortals: Do you think you can learn to play this quality game better or is it just instinct?

[MrStinky]

I think a lot of it is experience, which applies to all of the above except pot luck.

Having a good class setup is important, but with so many maps I tend to create them based upon which weapons I'm having most luck with at the time.

I'm suprised to see that you rarely come top of a team at the end of match with a K/D at about breaking even though, I'm normally in the top 15% of my team in objective based games (had the top spot plenty of times too.) and my K/D is well into the negative (0.7? something shocking like that). I think I might die a lot going for objectives in team games, but it's a bit odd as I normally do OK score wise.

[Brogan]

I would add sensitivity to the mix.

Mine is set to Medium which is the 2nd lowest setting.

If you come up against someone who has it set at 6 or 7 or even higher then they will beat you every time.

[Rafe]

I'm a 'run and gun' type player with a K:D of 1.53 on MW2.

Know your surroundings - I find knowing the maps as an invaluable source of information. If you know where the 'campers' are going to be, then be one step ahead i.e. pop them off before they get to their camp spot. The same goes for snipers. If you know a snipers vantage points, you know to stay away or alternatively, pick them off by out smarting them

Stay away from open ground - if you are in open ground, expect our sniper friends to pick you off. Expect a few shots from the people on top of buildings too.

Use your secondary weapon - if you haven't got 'slight of hand' enabled as a perk then reloading can cost you kills at vital times. If you run out of rounds after you have landed a few in your opponent, switch to your secondary ASAP. The quicker you switch and start shooting, the chances of you picking up the kill are greatly improved.

That's how I do it anyway and seem to get by

HTH

[virtual_boy]

I'm currently level 30 if I remember right with a k/d ratio of 1.10:1, I mainly play FFA in MW2 (but played hardcore S&D in MW).
I think you need to use stopping power (unless in a HC match) and find a burst fire weapon best (FAMAS-MW2, M16-MW) as it enables you more quickly and accuratly re-adjust your aim.
Other than that I think it's just a case of learning the maps... Oh and Astro's and FPS freeks always help.

[Hob_Nob_Man]

I had a ratio of 1.77 on COD4 and 1.85 so far on MW2, and theres loads of reasons why, mine is high, very little of it is to do with skill imo, its all to do with knowledge.

The Radar! it should be your third eye! It tells you wer the enemy are, whether it's to get at them and kill them or to keep an eye for people sneaking up on your. Use it!

Know the map! knowing the map like the back of your hand means you know all the campy spots and all the angles from which they can come at you, stood wer you are at any time.

Knowing the Weapons! People always bang on about how they get bummed cos somebody has a better weapon than them, to a certain degree this is true, but if you know how to use a weapon effectively and then you should be able to do well with all the weapons.

Create a class. This is a big thing tbh. Theres a few basic tips that i have always stood by. In anything other than hardcore i have always used stopping power, unless i didnt want to be seen then it would be UAV jammer, or in MW2's case, Cold blooded. Stopping power makes nearly all sniper rifles a one shot kill, most of the time, not always! When running and gunning use steady aim or grip, that way you actually hit them when firing from hip, also stopping power, that way your gun does more damage and kills them qwicker :D

Thems just some basic tips, there loads to learn but i like to think thems the basic things i stick to that have kept my ratio up :D

[King Tones]

Originally Posted by rafe17

I'm a 'run and gun' type player with a K:D of 1.53 on MW2.

Know your surroundings - I find knowing the maps as an invaluable source of information. If you know where the 'campers' are going to be, then be one step ahead i.e. pop them off before they get to their camp spot. The same goes for snipers. If you know a snipers vantage points, you know to stay away or alternatively, pick them off by out smarting them

Stay away from open ground - if you are in open ground, expect our sniper friends to pick you off. Expect a few shots from the people on top of buildings too.

Use your secondary weapon - if you haven't got 'slight of hand' enabled as a perk then reloading can cost you kills at vital times. If you run out of rounds after you have landed a few in your opponent, switch to your secondary ASAP. The quicker you switch and start shooting, the chances of you picking up the kill are greatly improved.

That's how I do it anyway and seem to get by

HTH

Some really good points there Rafe

Secondary Weapons are a must, i think the G18 Machine pistol is excellent, whip it out and spray and pray. Or pick one of the Shotguns, run out of ammo hit Y and start firing.

Open ground try and avoid or if you are heading towards open ground then take cover. Afghan is a great map. If you think of the Sniper point and its quite open with a few walls. I will always run to that point and then duck behind a wall, if someone is there then most times they will start firing and keep firing, stay in cover and when they stop firing pop up and shoot them back.

I think with MW2 people gameplay will need to change from run and gun to Run, Cover & Shoot

Deftones

[gmick23]

I think everything you noted can be a factor.
I have a ratio of 1.5:1 and play TDM (MW was HCTDM) and I have noticed that along with choosing the right class working as a team or at least 2 man team greatly increases your effectiveness of killing and winning.
Although i dont play as i preach as my main class setup is total stealth there has been many occasions were my target has survied due to back up of a team mate.

[1LeeDenton]

I have found that running Cold Blooded (which of course means losing Stopping Power) helps me to stay alive a lot longer, so that certainly helps keep the 'D' element of your ratio respectable. Then its just a case of finding a gun that you're happy with, learn the maps/choke points, and move about cautiously whilst keeping an eye on the radar.

Contrary to the sound advice of using your Secondary weapon, I've actually equipped a Stinger to all of my Custom Classes, which swiftly removes any flying bringers of death (Harriers, Choppers etc)......and seeing as I run Cold Blooded they can't target me when I'm sizing them up with my Stinger

[v CJ v]

Optimizing your create a class is important in my experience.

I have a couple of classes I use:

Small maps
Assault Rifle + Grenade attachment + Red Dot
Machine pistol + red dot + silencer
Bling
Hardline
Ninja
Claymore
Stun

Large maps
Sniper + Silencer + Heartbeat sensor
Machine pistol + red dot + silencer
Bling
Cold blooded
Ninja
Claymore
Stun

Search & Destroy
Assault Rifle + Heartbeat Sensor + Red Dot
Machine pistol + red dot + silencer
Bling
Cold blooded
Ninja
Claymore
Smoke

Everyone plays the game differently, but I tend to have 2/3 spots on each map where I sniper from on TDM (depending on where I spawn).

From here, I’ll keep an eye on that area of the map, and taking out who ever I can see. Once I’m killed, I won’t return to the same spot straight away.

My K/D ratio is currently 1.44 (1,600+kills) which is improving since I started (average around 15kills, 5deaths a game).

Most games I’m online with my mates, so we’ll choose a building to have on ‘lockdown’, where we plant our claymores, and each take a window/door/viewpoint. It’s fun, and we will get some good kills out of it (also means we cover each other when one of us get a killstreak to use)

[kav]

Originally Posted by v CJ v

Most games I’m online with my mates, so we’ll choose a building to have on ‘lockdown’, where we plant our claymores, and each take a window/door/viewpoint. It’s fun, and we will get some good kills out of it (also means we cover each other when one of us get a killstreak to use)

So basically you and your mates are a bunch of campers?

[Rafe]

Originally Posted by Deftones

Some really good points there Rafe

Deftones

Damn - now i've taught you how the Rafe Man does it. I am going to get battered the next time we play some FFA together lol

[v CJ v]

Originally Posted by kavanf1

So basically you and your mates are a bunch of campers?

Yes basically

[JuanRCP]

One of the main things is persistence.
Keep playing and you'll gain the knowledge aspect that you mentioned.

One thing I find invaluable, is knowing "alternative routes"

If you see someone running around, rather than chasing them and wondering what way they went, take a route to intercept them along the channel.
If you ever find that someone was ready as if they knew you were coming, chances are they probably did.

Sometimes you won't see them and they've gone a different way, in which case, don't loiter.. count your losses and move on, but if you intercept them, whilst they're running and then have to get the sights aimed and on target, you're on step ahead and already getting the kill.

Classes are important to an extent, but I don't often change.
I use the Scar-H with red dot for the majority of maps. If it's a small map like rust, I go with the Vector (I think it's called) which is a smaller gun and quicker to manouver with.

Maps like estate I use a gun that is high accuracy and shoots in bursts, so if you see someone in the distance, you can get shots in accurately without spraying all over the place, and that's it for my classes really. I have the occasional sniper game, but cba with it to be honest, i'm more run n gun!

Another tip I found usefull, is to watch the screen like a film. Just because you're running, doesn't mean you have to look dead ahead, you won't trip over! Look up in the corners of the screen and around as you move to spot slight movements.

And one last thing, which I haven't personally done but I know others reccomend... if you're not grasping the routes on a map, start a private game and pick a map, then have a little run around and check out good routes, places you can go for some safety to regain composure, and places people will snipe/camp from, rather than ruining your ratio by running around a map in a game to look for places.

(My ratio has been doomed since I let the gf play on my account when she fancies a go!)

These things seem to help me

[King Tones]

Originally Posted by rafe17

Damn - now i've taught you how the Rafe Man does it. I am going to get battered the next time we play some FFA together lol

Look forward to it mate, those were some great games last week and very very close

Deftones

[cunners]

Originally Posted by Brogan

I would add sensitivity to the mix.

Mine is set to Medium which is the 2nd lowest setting.

If you come up against someone who has it set at 6 or 7 or even higher then they will beat you every time.

I have to disagree with this. Higher sensitivity might let you get a crosshair over to the enemy quicker, but it's harder to keep it on him since small movements will move the cursor a long way. I play with the lowest sensitivity allowed and I wish I could get it even lower.

Tips i would give are:
Always make it a priority to be moving with crosshair at head height.
Never sprint around a corner, it takes an age to stop sprinting and bring your sights back up.
Know the maps inside out, as people have said.
Follow the kill streaks. The choppers/harriers/predators all know where the enemies are, if you can see where these are on the map, then so do you.
As others have said, the radar is invaluable. Notice when green arrows go missing. Use the skull icons to your advantage here.
Choose kill streaks close together. I have predator (5), harrier (7),
pave low (9). Its quite easy to get from 5 kills to 9+ with a harrier in between.

[HITMAN SWAGGA]

I should have a new 360 by next week hopefully. I just
cannot wait to get on MW2 MP. I`m stuck watching HD clips of matches on youtube until then .

[GamerScorer]

Originally Posted by Brogan

I would add sensitivity to the mix.

Mine is set to Medium which is the 2nd lowest setting.

If you come up against someone who has it set at 6 or 7 or even higher then they will beat you every time.

Wow.....How did you come to that conclusion?....That would only be the case if you are silly enough to look down your sights the whole time whilst aiming. You are best advised to always expect the unexpected and train your crosshair on to a spot where a person who knows how to use cover will likely appear whilst you are moving to your cover. If someone does appear THEN you look down the sights and fine tune your aim. This means you move your aimer around in hip fire mode (without firing obviously) as it moves quicker this way as we know, and then fine tune with your sights zoomed in.
Medium sensitivity is more than enough and sensitivity has little, to nothing to do with it.
Most people just try to play with high sensitivity because it makes them think they are l337...It really is daft... You see someone a very long way away, and they sidestep once, you try getting your bead on them with your super high l337 aiming sensitivity. (I'm not actually saying you use high sensitivity aiming Brogans...I was addressing hypothetical you's across the FPS spectrum)

[ajay16]

Here are some tips that i always try and stick to!

Sensitivity:
I set mine at about 7/8, set your sensitivity at this and give it at least a few days to get used to. It will pay dividens in the long run! From close combat to turning quickly!

Shooting:
When shooting DO NO STAND STILL, move sideways, it doesnt matter what way your move (left or right) just keep moving. For some reason most people cant follow you if they have rounds coming towards them and your moving at the same time. This works like a charm but is hard to get used to doing.
Before you engage someone just stop and think, press the left stick to the right or left then start shooting.

Scopes:
ACOG is great but very SLOW to aim down the sights, so if you have an assault rifle or submachine gun, stick with a red dot, or holographic (hologrpahic is slightly slower to aim down i think).

Plan:
After you have got your first kill be a bit more cautious, and just try to get the second, after all the more times you can get 2 kills for every 1 death the more your K/D will go up.

Gametype:
I was awful at MW2 when i started.........i was slow and couldnt get to grips with it. (The same happened when i didnt play MW for months on ened).
So jump in to Free For All, its manic and fast and will speed up your reactions greatly! It may take a few games to get used to but stick with it and you will improve! Im playing FFA constantly at the moment!

[GamerScorer]

Originally Posted by ajay16

Here are some tips that i always try and stick to!

Sensitivity:
I set mine at about 7/8, set your sensitivity at this and give it at least a few days to get used to. It will pay dividens in the long run! From close combat to turning quickly!

Shooting:
When shooting DO NO STAND STILL, move sideways, it doesnt matter what way your move (left or right) just keep moving. For some reason most people cant follow you if they have rounds coming towards them and your moving at the same time. This works like a charm but is hard to get used to doing.
Before you engage someone just stop and think, press the left stick to the right or left then start shooting.

Scopes:
ACOG is great but very SLOW to aim down the sights, so if you have an assault rifle or submachine gun, stick with a red dot, or holographic (hologrpahic is slightly slower to aim down i think).

Plan:
After you have got your first kill be a bit more cautious, and just try to get the second, after all the more times you can get 2 kills for every 1 death the more your K/D will go up.

Gametype:
I was awful at MW2 when i started.........i was slow and couldnt get to grips with it. (The same happened when i didnt play MW for months on ened).
So jump in to Free For All, its manic and fast and will speed up your reactions greatly! It may take a few games to get used to but stick with it and you will improve! Im playing FFA constantly at the moment!

Your tips are fine...Nothing new and nothing amazing but I am sure they will go appreciated by most here and there is nothing wrong with them, but I still totally disagree that you would ever need your sensitivity that high.
COD's aiming has always felt very easy and forgiving and to be honest you just don't need it to be very sensitive at all. If you can play very well on COD then you can be reasonably good at Rainbow Six Vegas 1 or 2. I mean I know those two games are rubbish online as they lag awful but sometimes you would get decent games on them and I played them a lot and had some good times on them. The aiming on those games is ten times harder than on COD. I do not see why people try to put so much importance on the aiming sensitivity for COD.
Sorry if my views don't sit with anyone but I think my argument is logically sound.

[Brogan]

The higher the aiming sensitivity, the quicker you can aim and turn.

That has a distinct advantage in MP.

[King Tones]

Think mine is set at 7 or 8 and it has made a huge differnce

Been set like that since COD5

Deftones

[ajay16]

Originally Posted by Brogan

The higher the aiming sensitivity, the quicker you can aim and turn.

That has a distinct advantage in MP.

My point exactly!

[Brogan]

Mine's on low-medium.
Any higher and I can't control the damn thing.

I expect that's why I lose the majority of one-on-ones and why I can't track fast moving targets.

[Mr H Shingles]

Mine is one notch above medium and it seems to do alright.

My nephew uses insane (the top level) and i serioulsy dont know how he plays it like that.

I might notch mine up one or two more as Im assuming its just a matter of getting used to it for a couple of days.

[Brogan]

Originally Posted by Mr H Shingles

I might notch mine up one or two more as Im assuming its just a matter of getting used to it for a couple of days.

I thought that but had trouble hitting the barn doors in Estate so changed it back

[Pinky Floyd]

I moved mine up one notch from the lowest and find it a bit twitchy. Old man reflexes, ya see?

[MrStinky]

Sensitivity wise I fail to see how anyone can actually struggle to get shots on target with it set to medium/high.

I read this thread a few weeks ago and tried going back to the default setting, it was just a joke as not once upon hearing footsteps behind did I manage to turn around, aim down sights and get some shots off before getting killed, at least with it set to medium/high I can do that, and still get shots at least to hit the torso, usually enough to win the 1v1 and get the kill.

I think FPSfreeks might be helping here, but it just seems too unresponsive with the sensitivity down.

And whoever mentioned playing FFA- this is actually sound advice as I take a lot of deaths in objective based games yet normally finish FFA matches with a positive K/D (and top of the match most of the time, unless I'm actually thrown in with somebody who's any good.)

[Brogan]

Originally Posted by MrStinky

Sensitivity wise I fail to see how anyone can actually struggle to get shots on target with it set to medium/high.

Conversely I fail to see how anyone can actually get it on target with the sensitivity set to 7/8.

Everyone's different.

[xWAKEYx]

I cant seem to put the FAMAS down at the moment, red scope and shotgun attachment for close quarters a great all rounder. 3 burst of bullets per trigger pull, more control. suprisingly good at long range and close range.

I tend to move whilst shooting or crouch and get behind cover temporarily.

Have you come across the ppl that jump around all the time to avoid being killed and they manage to dish out kills at the same time, frustrating, works though as I find it harder to kill a human kangaroo.