Warm sounding speaking cable
 

Can anyone suggest a warm sounding speaking cable for my Onkyo txsr605 connected to a pair of Tannoy F1 custom speakers, Cheers

No one?

As a general rule, loudspeaker cables do not affect the sound produced by the loudspeakers unless their resistance is much higher than 5% of the nominal impedance of the loudspeaker.

As evidence of this, there exists an extensive range of electrical measurements. The results of these objective tests are corroborated by the results of double blind subjective testing.

A “warm sounding” loudspeaker cable exists only in the listener’s imagination.


Alan

Some people say that Van Damme cable is 'warm sounding' - though I don't believe it sounds much different to any other cable.

I have seen cables on 6moons which have a little box of filters at one end - now that probably does change the sound. :)

The speakers are the most important link in the chain as far as sound is concerned, much more than the amp or wire. The source is the other cause for sound differences. Most speakers today are intended to be totally flat when measured in magazine reviews and that means they don't usually sound very warm.

An exception may be the Castle range, reviews have said they have a warm sound. e.g. -

Castle Knight 2 review | from TechRadar's expert reviews of Hi-fi and AV speakers

I have a pair of the Knight 1s doing duty as front high speakers and when I was running them in with stereo from my radio they did sound slightly warm.

My Castle Conways, which I use every day for general listening are warm - but they don't make them any more.

OK cheers for the replies, so if I wanted my system to sound warmer I would be better off changing my speakers? I have heard people saying amp can sound harsh and bright is this not true then? Is there any benefit in buying more dearer speaker cable or is it just a marketing ploy?

The cable won't have much effect.

The speakers you have get good reviews, though I notice that the whathifi review says - ". . . but the Customs seem overconfident at the top end – there's the sonic equivalent of an overbite on display, a thrusting forward of sibilant sounds to the front of the stage that rather spoils the otherwise smoothly integrated whole" So I imagine that your problem lies there. :)

But not to worry, not only has your 605 got basic tone controls but also a graphic equaliser for individual speakers -


2–5. Equalizer Settings
Equalizer Manual
Channel Front
80Hz 0dB
250Hz 0dB
800Hz 0dB
2500Hz 0dB
8000Hz 0dB

Now some hi-fi people say that any sort of tone control is the work of the devil himself but I don't agree with that.

It may be preferable to have everything flat throughout if all your recordings and equipment are perfect, but that rarely happens. A little adjustment is sometimes needed to make music sound good to your ears. :)

Thanks for the reply, I have run odyssey and like you say I too don't like to change tone control, but do you have any suggestions on what I should change? Also I don't really know how to change it manually or how to do it,Thanks

When you run the Audyssey 2EQ it actually sets the equalisation levels for you based on those frequencies in the post above.

As it obviously hasn't got it quite right for your ears then adjusting them manually to your taste has to be a good move. :)

It is all in the manual on page 74. In case your manual has gone missing here is the pdf version for reference -

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/downloads/1/...65197b9e73.pdf

It looks more complicated that it actually is and shouldn't be too difficult as you only have the stereo pair I assume. I'd suggest setting 2500hz at 2db down and 8000hz at 3db down as a starting point.

Cheers again, I have tannoy front and center q acoustics 2010 as rear, velodyne sub all connected to the onkyo. Gonna have to check out page 74. It's only sounding bright when I turn it up to higher volumes, so it could be the limitations of the speakers. I take it you have a onkyo, with the audyssey 2EQ do you leave the settings it finds?

I say this because I find it get the distance and levels right but it set my speakers crossover wrong ie it says my center speaker is 60hz and my fronts 100hz. I changed it myself to center 100hz and my fronts 80hz. Do you think this might cause the brightness I hear?

I have the 608 with 2EQ but I set things up manually instead of using it. It is a bit of a bother but only needs to be done once.

The brightness when turned up could be the speakers - it may be what the What HiFi review meant. Not much you can do about that apart from some sort of compromise settings in the levels.

Changing the low level x-over with the sub won't be the problem.