Lack of DOLBY TRUE HD /DTS-HD 7.1 Soundtracks?

Ollie20964 · 27-01-2009, 11:05 PM

Many of us now are buying 7.1 receivers capable of decoding all the latest HD formats. Embracing the new High Definition era I decided to go for a 7.1 set-up in my lounge so I'll be future proofed (and so that it will sound the business).

The problem is there is a real lack of 7.1 HD audio soundtracks to blu-ray. I realised that all the early releases would be in 5.1 but was hoping by now we'd be seeing more and more 7.1 tracks. Especially the latest releases, such as The Dark Kinght etc.

The only one's I've found so far with DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 soundtracks are The Golden Compass and Dark City!

I've also been scouring the internet to see if there is a list of blu-rays that are in the 7.1 format.... My search has drawn a blank so far!

Does anyone know of any other blu-rays which supports 7.1 or if there is a list out there? .... Perhaps we could start one?

stuartbrown21 · 27-01-2009, 11:58 PM

Hellboy 2......Rambo (US disc).....3:10 to Yuma.......possibly Corpse Bride?

...Wall:e is 6.1

LanceR · 28-01-2009, 9:08 AM

'Hairspray'.. 'Lust caution' to name a couple.

I'm fairly sure 'wall e' isn't 6.1 not on my region b disc it isn't.

IAN P · 28-01-2009, 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ollie20964

Many of us now are buying 7.1 receivers capable of decoding all the latest HD formats. Embracing the new High Definition era I decided to go for a 7.1 set-up in my lounge so I'll be future proofed (and so that it will sound the business).

The problem is there is a real lack of 7.1 HD audio soundtracks to blu-ray. I realised that all the early releases would be in 5.1 but was hoping by now we'd be seeing more and more 7.1 tracks. Especially the latest releases, such as The Dark Kinght etc.

The only one's I've found so far with DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 soundtracks are The Golden Compass and Dark City!

I've also been scouring the internet to see if there is a list of blu-rays that are in the 7.1 format.... My search has drawn a blank so far!

Does anyone know of any other blu-rays which supports 7.1 or if there is a list out there? .... Perhaps we could start one?

Didn't search hard enough.

Lots and lots of DTS Master discs.

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goodtimes · 28-01-2009, 7:58 PM

I would like to see more 7.1 disks.
terminator 2 was a prime candidate for 7.1

stuartbrown21 · 28-01-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lancerumbolt

'Hairspray'.. 'Lust caution' to name a couple.

I'm fairly sure 'wall e' isn't 6.1 not on my region b disc it isn't.

It's been widely reported that whilst Wall:e is claimed on the packaging to be 5.1, it is in fact 6.1.

LanceR · 28-01-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stuartbrown21

It's been widely reported that whilst Wall:e is claimed on the packaging to be 5.1, it is in fact 6.1.

Ok let's put this another way and take this as read, on my menu for the uk wall e blu ray it gives you the option DTS 5.1 when the film plays and i go to the display function on my PS3 it tells me it is DTS HD MA 5.1! Ok so i take the disc and try it on my Sony BDPS 550 and low and behold it is DTS 5.1.

So i would say that the wide reporting is wrong atleast on the UK disc.

Repton · 28-01-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IAN P

Didn't search hard enough.

Lots and lots of DTS Master discs.

price-adjustment.com - Price Adjustment

most those titles didn't seem to light my fire!

All I'm wishing for is more mainstream movies with 7.1 as well. What about the dark knight, iron man, transformers, harry potters....not too much to ask?

IAN P · 29-01-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Repton

most those titles didn't seem to light my fire!

All I'm wishing for is more mainstream movies with 7.1 as well. What about the dark knight, iron man, transformers, harry potters....not too much to ask?

Well,those are Warners and Paramount,if you drop em' a line i'm sure they'll help you out.

Warners are still releasing lossy tracks on recent films for christ sake.And you want 7.1 tracks from them.

There's nothing stopping them releasing such discs,they just come across as lazy,greedy double dip merchants

Mi-casa did the remixing for several recent 7.1 discs.They seem to be in a minority.

Ollie20964 · 29-01-2009, 6:23 PM

Many thanks for all the replies. Especially the link to that website with all the 7.1 titles. I do agree though that there are not many titles that float my boat!

Prince Caspian arrived today which is 7.1 so I'll look forward to watching that. I was so expectant that The Dark Knight, Ironman and all the new big budget movies would be 7.1! Even Tropic Thunder is coming out in 5.1.

I wouldn't mind so much however due to the rear surrounds being redundant on 5.1 soundtracks I really lose out on the whole "surround sound experience". Mainly due to the sofa is located next to the middle speakers (which become the rear surrounds on 5.1 soundtracks). I find myself swithing to the standard Doldy Digital soundtracks instead as my Onkyo receiver automatically converts them to Dolby Digital EX (7.1).

Nevermind, hopefully more 7.1 releases will come out soon!

stuartbrown21 · 29-01-2009, 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lancerumbolt

Ok let's put this another way and take this as read, on my menu for the uk wall e blu ray it gives you the option DTS 5.1 when the film plays and i go to the display function on my PS3 it tells me it is DTS HD MA 5.1! Ok so i take the disc and try it on my Sony BDPS 550 and low and behold it is DTS 5.1.

So i would say that the wide reporting is wrong atleast on the UK disc.

From the AVForums review

There has already been some confusion over this release. Early copies seem to have had mistaken details on the pack stating that the disc only contained a DD 5.1 track. Officially, the BD was supposed to have a DTS-MA 6.1 audio, though many people have claimed that their systems were not showing this. Thus, it seems that the track was a DTS HD Master ES Matrixed 6.1 track, with the sixth channel modulated into the rear surrounds. However, the two copies that I have played (mine arrived late, but I had already borrowed one from a friend to give the once-over) both stated DTS-MA 5.1 on the packaging and, more importantly, played as such on my US PS3 and Onkyo 875.

So I guess it probably is only 5.1.

Jackass · 29-01-2009, 10:49 PM

Blu-ray Disc Statistics

IAN P · 29-01-2009, 10:56 PM

As for Wall.e,during playback i pressed the info button on the ps3 and it clearly stated a 6.1 track was being played.Didn't think to look at my amp to see what was being displayed though

LanceR · 30-01-2009, 8:50 AM

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Originally Posted by IAN P

As for Wall.e,during playback i pressed the info button on the ps3 and it clearly stated a 6.1 track was being played.Didn't think to look at my amp to see what was being displayed though

Well as I said in my other post on my PS3 and 550 they both state 5.1.

Leumas_10 · 01-02-2009, 1:49 AM

I know this thread is referring to 7.1 soundtracks, but can anybody shed light on why some new release blurays only having DD 5.1 soundtracks, rather than trueHD or DTS? Is it down to the directors choice of how he made the film or the film company?

Watched 'Thick as Thieves' the other night and was really underwhelmed with the dd 5.1. I can understand some older films being restricted to how much they can remaster the original soundtrack, like Full Metal Jacket for example. But new releases?

Am I missing something, is it still HD? If not then the 'beyond high definition' statement on the case is a bit off

. I'd try to avoid buying any blurays without a high def soundtrack, especially if a year down the line they are rereleased with improved audio

IAN P · 01-02-2009, 1:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leumas_10

I know this thread is referring to 7.1 soundtracks, but can anybody shed light on why some new release blurays only having DD 5.1 soundtracks, rather than trueHD or DTS? Is it down to the directors choice of how he made the film or the film company?

Watched 'Thick as Thieves' the other night and was really underwhelmed with the dd 5.1. I can understand some older films being restricted to how much they can remaster the original soundtrack, like Full Metal Jacket for example. But new releases?

Am I missing something, is it still HD? If not then the 'beyond high definition' statement on the case is a bit off

. I'd try to avoid buying any blurays without a high def soundtrack, especially if a year down the line they are rereleased with improved audio

Warners consistently use the lesser sound options.Nothing to do with Directors intent,the company is just being tight.

Leumas_10 · 01-02-2009, 3:43 PM

That really is poor. But I guess they price their discs lower to reflect this right?.....

. Will have to double check warner discs from now on then, seeing as I probably get more benefit from HD audio than PQ at the minute

IAN P · 01-02-2009, 4:27 PM

I always check the review sites for Warner discs and what sound option they use.

Speed Racer,Get Smart,Mongol(region A) all have lossy tracks,there are more but i can't think of em' at present.

KhalJimbo · 02-02-2009, 11:44 AM

I upgraded to 7.1 over the weekend and can honestly say I was blown away by the 1 movie I have in 7.1 (3:10 to Yuma) it was also a lossy soundtrack. I can honestly say that now, LPCM and DTS-HD-MA are by far the best options for sound tracks. Dolby True HD although is one of the new formats I seem to find true hd sound tracks to be significantly lacking in bass, not sure if its just me though?

IAN P · 02-02-2009, 2:15 PM

Go and buy Hellboy 2,i think you'll be amazed,i've just tested one scene so far and it sounded fantastic.

KhalJimbo · 02-02-2009, 2:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IAN P

Go and buy Hellboy 2,i think you'll be amazed,i've just tested one scene so far and it sounded fantastic.

Is that on True HD?

IAN P · 02-02-2009, 2:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthelegend

Is that on True HD?

DTS Master 7.1

KhalJimbo · 02-02-2009, 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IAN P

DTS Master 7.1

Ahh OK DTS MA is one of the best soudtracks though, but will try get hold of it although I didnt really like the first hell boy, but i'll probably get it just for the sake that it is on Blu Ray hehe

IAN P · 02-02-2009, 2:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthelegend

Ahh OK DTS MA is one of the best soudtracks though, but will try get hold of it although I didnt really like the first hell boy, but i'll probably get it just for the sake that it is on Blu Ray hehe

It's worth it,i'm off to watch it all now,be back in a couple of hours with ringing ears.

Ollie20964 · 02-02-2009, 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthelegend

I upgraded to 7.1 over the weekend and can honestly say I was blown away by the 1 movie I have in 7.1 (3:10 to Yuma) it was also a lossy soundtrack. I can honestly say that now, LPCM and DTS-HD-MA are by far the best options for sound tracks. Dolby True HD although is one of the new formats I seem to find true hd sound tracks to be significantly lacking in bass, not sure if its just me though?

I saw 3:10 to Yuma was 7.1 and was going to aske what it sounds like!... You've saved me a job! I tried to get a copy on ebya last night... brand new was just about to bis and my computer froze!! Went for £7.50! Doh!

IAN P · 02-02-2009, 4:37 PM

Folks,we have a new demo disc of choice,holy crap,the bass is off the chart,the whole film just doesn't quit.

Some scenes are laugh out loud funny(the beer drinking scene is hilarious) )but the whole soundtrack is a thouroughly deserved 10/10.

Roll on part 3.

KhalJimbo · 02-02-2009, 4:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ollie20964

I saw 3:10 to Yuma was 7.1 and was going to aske what it sounds like!... You've saved me a job! I tried to get a copy on ebya last night... brand new was just about to bis and my computer froze!! Went for £7.50! Doh!

I thought it was brilliant!! Definately worth it, the movie is also such a cool story

KhalJimbo · 02-02-2009, 4:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IAN P

Folks,we have a new demo disc of choice,holy crap,the bass is off the chart,the whole film just doesn't quit.

Some scenes are laugh out loud funny(the beer drinking scene is hilarious) )but the whole soundtrack is a thouroughly deserved 10/10.

Roll on part 3.

Cool will try get it then

KhalJimbo · 03-02-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by IAN P

Didn't search hard enough.

Lots and lots of DTS Master discs.

price-adjustment.com - Price Adjustment

WOW, Ian

nice find there thanks a million times over, now I can find what audio formats the discs are in before I buy them

Racquel Darrian · 03-02-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by goodtimes

I would like to see more 7.1 disks.
terminator 2 was a prime candidate for 7.1

The German steelbook edition was in 7.1. And what a cracker it is. Possibly the best sounding disc I've got.

Back to subject:
I too am very underwhelmed on the amount of 7.1 sound discs are out there.
New titles like Ironman, TDK, Hulk etc could all of sounded awesome in 7.1.

I remember the HD DVD Universal discs all started with a HD DVD advert announcing "upto 7.1 lossless sound". Did Universal ever release a 7.1 disc?

Does anyone know of a 7.1 Dolby TrueHD disc? I've got a few Doldy TrueHD DD EX discs but not 7.1?

As OP said. We've got the equipment but very few companies want to allow their products to use it.