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Old 10-08-2007, 7:45 PM   #1
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where can we post sales figures?

Anywhere we can discuss this now? Seems to me that a few people moaned about threads, now we cant discuss them anywhere,Badasses thread got deleted, but why? is it not allowed to discuss sales figures?
 
Old 10-08-2007, 8:36 PM   #2
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

I assume because they all turn into fanboy rants.
 
Old 10-08-2007, 9:10 PM   #3
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

The DVD Players (High Definition) forum seems the more appropriate place. Studio support and sales figures are really a grey area between these two forums but there's more general discussion in there, so it seems a little better suited.

Edit: Didn't realise that they changed the rules for that forum in the past few hours.

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Re: where can we post sales figures?

Maybe a non brand specific thread that just talks about total HD sales and isn't type specific. I'm a fanboy, a HD fanboy. I think HD is the mutt's preverbials. I'm also dual formatted because I fancy getting the best discs regardless of which manufacturer is trying to peddle it. So I have invested in a new format that I hope doesn't go the way of laser discs.

 
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

threads get nuked in that one too.

oh well, no more sales figures here then.
 
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

God I hope not
 
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

some folk find it interesting Adam. Not everyone takes every little figure and spins it, or turns it into an propoganda film. Some people are genuinely interested.
 
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

This forum has reached new lows today.
 
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

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some folk find it interesting Adam. Not everyone takes every little figure and spins it, or turns it into an propoganda film. Some people are genuinely interested.
Yes I agree with you.

But while there are certain elements here then no reasoned discussion can or will take place.

Any and all such thread will decend into fan boy wars and mods will need to step in, delete posts and close them.
 
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This forum has reached new lows today.
I find it both funny and tragic you seem to think you are in no way responsible for how these forums have changed and why such steps have been taken.
 
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

Are we men in here or a bunch of fairy's?

Whats tragic? Did some one die?

The forums haven't changed, Ive taken stick for 12 months and I've probably reported about 3 posts.

People are using the report button as some form of censorship because HD-DVD keeps getting bad news and the HD-DVD crew don't like it.

Were only talking about a format war not the Christian Crusades.

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Re: where can we post sales figures?

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So I have invested in a new format that I hope doesn't go the way of laser discs.
Laserdisc was great in it's time. It didn't have any real competion in terms of quality for many years. DVD, HD DVD and Blu-Ray will all go the way of the Laserdisc some day.

All the best
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Old 11-08-2007, 8:27 AM   #13
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

I disagree that the Sales Forums (the recent ones, that is) were argumentative.

The new Sales forums which were put up weekly were one of the most friendly threads going. Even me & SAH would have a knock about laught predicting next week's figures.

I'm afraid this is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

The question is, will the figures be banned from mention elsewhere?

If someone starts a thread - a newbie - asking "I want to go high def. What should I do? Go BD, go HD DVD, both, or neither?", will the mentining of how sales are going be banned in a reply?

Someone (BadAss I think) has DVD Empire sales in his sig - will that be banned?

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Re: where can we post sales figures?

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This forum has reached new lows today.
The thing is this forum is for the majority not the minority - if the forum was smaller and there were just a few of us I'm sure we could all chat away for as long as we like. However it's bigger than that - alot of new members come through here and then flee when they see the constant bickering/arguing. Something had to change.
 
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

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I disagree that the Sales Forums (the recent ones, that is) were argumentative.

The new Sales forums which were put up weekly were one of the most friendly threads going. Even me & SAH would have a knock about laught predicting next week's figures.

I'm afraid this is using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

The question is, will the figures be banned from mention elsewhere?

If someone starts a thread - a newbie - asking "I want to go high def. What should I do? Go BD, go HD DVD, both, or neither?", will the mentining of how sales are going be banned in a reply?

Someone (BadAss I think) has DVD Empire sales in his sig - will that be banned?

Steve W


i agree here. The latest threads were good, friendly and carried in the spirit that they should have been. nothing wrong with them at all. If people dont like the content of them they shouldnt read them, pretty simple really. its like people moaning about stuff on TV they dont like...
 
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

As far as I'm aware, that rule is only for the hardware section, and presumable doesn't apply here?

If not, please delete this message and post a message to let us know, mods.

Personally, I think you should let this one ride and see if it remains as peaceful as mattym & I suggest.

This week's figures, for those who don't know were 62:38 to BD. I predicted 61:39, so I'm quite pleased with myself.

A great week for HD DVD. Figures suggest that, had it not been for '300', it would have been close to 50:50.

Next week's figures based on these releases:

August 7th

Blu-ray Disc

Are We Done Yet? (BD only)
Arlington Road (BD only)

Disturbia (both)
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (BD only)
TMNT (both)

HD DVD

Disturbia (both)
TMNT (both)



COMMENT: Obviously BD's week. However, none of the BD exclusives look like blockbusters, whilst the two dual-format releases are pretty big, and should swamp the other releases. Also, if sales of '300' keep up, they'll swamp everything.

I'm predicting a swing back to BD to somewhere between 65% and 70%. So I'll go for 66:34.

Steve W
 
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Re: where can we post sales figures?

I don't have a problem with sales threads, it's the fan boy discussion that all these threads bring that I get tired of moderating.

I would rather just see sales figures posted and that's it, no discussion at all. Some people here can't wait to gloat about how one side is doing better or how one studio has signed up for one format over the other. Sales figures are springboards for the fan boys to jump on the threads and spam away.

I will close this one now as the sales figures have been posted for all to see.
 
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