Warner Bros whats the deal??

nigel77 · 25-06-2007, 12:37 PM

Hi
Not completely sure this is the right place to post but here goes.

I've bought several Warner Bros releases on blu ray and I can't believe how bad the picture is, whats going on??

The films are: Superman, Superman 2 Donner cut and superman returns, now I know the first two are older films but for gods sake they look worse then any of the DVD releases I have seen.

And why I'm having a dig at Warner, why aren't they releasing Smallville and Heroes on Blu-ray when these titles are coming on HD DVD shortly?

Thanks

Nigel

nigel77 · 25-06-2007, 2:08 PM

Here's a more detailed description of the poor picture qualitiy, The picture is full of dust specks/dirt, lots of picture noise/grain (although as stated the films are some thirty years old) and worst of all a complete lack of contrast making the picture look wasted out. The picture also looks very soft.

To be perfectly honest the Blu-ray release looks like a straight DVD transfer.

Cheers

Nigel

Avi · 25-06-2007, 4:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigel77

Hi
Not completely sure this is the right place to post but here goes.

I've bought several Warner Bros releases on blu ray and I can't believe how bad the picture is, whats going on??

The films are: Superman, Superman 2 Donner cut and superman returns, now I know the first two are older films but for gods sake they look worse then any of the DVD releases I have seen.

And why I'm having a dig at Warner, why aren't they releasing Smallville and Heroes on Blu-ray when these titles are coming on HD DVD shortly?

Thanks

Nigel

I only have Superman Returns on HD DVD and IMO it's a challenging movie for most displays. Much of it is dark and moody but that is the artistic intent and IIRC it was shot with HD cameras. I've seen this movie on a few displays and on some it looks very good and some it doesn't.

Maybe Warner are holding back on releasing some titles because of interactive features that require profile 1.1.

AVI

Nic Rhodes · 25-06-2007, 5:23 PM

Yes SR is a difficult movie for wow factor on ANY HD format, the 'soft' style and blacks make it a difficult disc, but I think it is a good disc re being faithful to what I saw at the cinema. The DVD is the same.

The two older superman discs are faithful copies to the original, and are certainly better than my DVDs, but again they are limited by the quality of the print.

Ever release, whether Warner or Sony, HD DVD or Blu-ray, needs to be faithful to the original print. In some cases, that will include grain, perhaps a touch soft or mute / stylistic colours, these are often not the wow disc but if they are true to the original print then i think this is all we can realistically ask of any format.

Re some disc on HD DVD and not BD, then I suspect this is purely down to Blu-ray playing catch up on facilities as in Profile 1.1.

tausifs · 25-06-2007, 5:26 PM

sorry what does IIRC mean ?

Azzin · 25-06-2007, 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigel77

Hi
Not completely sure this is the right place to post but here goes.

It's not, as we have an HD Movies forum right here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tausifs

sorry what does IIRC mean ?

If I Recall Correctly.

nigel77 · 26-06-2007, 11:29 AM

mods please move to Hd movie forum

thanks
nigel

Lord Bunky · 26-06-2007, 4:04 PM

Watch "Blood Diamond" on Warner Blu-ray disc. Wonderful picture. Also Letters from Iwo Jima. Also Warner Blu-ray.

dee2001 · 26-06-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nigel77

And why I'm having a dig at Warner, why aren't they releasing Smallville and Heroes on Blu-ray when these titles are coming on HD DVD shortly?

Thanks

Nigel

Heroes isn't done by Warner, it's done by Universal. So you'll be waiting a very long time for Blu-ray.

nigel77 · 28-06-2007, 7:56 AM

Might have too drop down to DVD for that one then

I also have The Fountain by Warner on Blu-ray (region A) and again very poor picture probably only comparable to Std DVD

Pecker · 28-06-2007, 8:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nigel77

I've bought several Warner Bros releases on blu ray and I can't believe how bad the picture is, whats going on??

The films are: Superman, Superman 2 Donner cut and superman returns.

I don't have any of those, but as you say, there are 2 quite old films and one recent one which has become renown for being all that good in high def.

I have quite a few WB discs which are superb. I think 'Harry Potter 4' is superb in parts (though just a little uneven), with a few fantastic set pieces which are as good as anything I've seen on high def.

Talking of old films, 'Casablanca' looks fantastic.

Steve W

nigel77 · 28-06-2007, 9:39 AM

I must be unlucky. I just thought that they would have done a better job of the first two superman films as there classics. I know they can only make the mastering as good as the original print but theres no reason for bad contrast.

Thanks

Nigel