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John Hodson 23-09-2010 7:34 PM

Oppo BDP-93 Networking Universal Blu-ray Player
 
Just when you thought there wasn't a better Universal Blu-ray player on the market for under $500 than the infamous BDP-83 Universal Blu-ray Player, Oppo proves you wrong by unveiling a new successor model: the BDP-93. Carrying the same retail price ($499), Oppo's BDP-93 has upped the bar by adding new networking/streaming features, increased performance and improved build quality.

The Oppo BDP-93 will do virtually everything the BDP-83 BD player did, plus have some major feature upgrades as listed below:

* Blu-ray 3D support
* Netflix streaming support
* CinemaNow support
* Additional network streaming features will be announced once partners certify the player. Oppo has divulged several of their potential partners to us and users should not be disappointed.
* Wireless-N networking
* Dual HDMI outputs. The two HDMI ports can be configured to support separate video and audio paths, or to support two displays at the same time.
* Marvell KYOTO G2 chipset with Qdeo video processig(though prototypes were also built with the ABT2015)
* eSATA port in addition to two USB ports...

KelvinS1965 23-09-2010 7:48 PM

Note to Arcam: Notice the inclusion of the 7.1 analogue outputs. ;)

Migman 23-09-2010 10:17 PM

Will this be available in England?

(or is that a stupid question)

norliss 23-09-2010 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Migman (Post 13060619)
Will this be available in England?

(or is that a stupid question)

No. Only in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland ;)

mikelj 24-09-2010 6:30 AM

So how does the Qdeo video processing compare with VRS (and for that matter, others such as HQV and VXP).

Avi 24-09-2010 8:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikelj (Post 13061521)
So how does the Qdeo video processing compare with VRS (and for that matter, others such as HQV and VXP).

I haven't used any products with the 88DE2750 i.e. Kyoto 2 ASIC but the Pio LX91 I had used the 88DE2170. It's similar in many respects to the ABT VRS but perhaps a bit better with PAL film but DVD scaling induced halo artefacts with some material similar to the VRS. I don't know how much of this was down to Pio's implementation but I thought the image looked less natural i.e. forced or digital compared to HQV, VXP. Some may prefer the look but it wasn't to my taste. The DE2750 features "true colour" and "natural depth expansion" (see link below).

I think you also find some of this tech in Sony products S5000, 760 plus other brands such as some LG, Sharp etc.

You may find the different video solutions compromise in different areas i.e. different approaches to address common issues so I guess personal priorities and taste will determine "best" fit.

Here's an idea of just how much "manipulation" is on offer. I hope Oppo provide a user options to selectively defeat these features as preferred.

http://www.sidchapters.org/ba/Archiv...ID%20Mar09.pdf

Avi

John Hodson 24-09-2010 11:09 AM

Put this in the vague rumour category, but this quote from the AVS Forum is interesting: "...Just got off the phone with NetFlix. When I asked about compatible devices, he mentioned Oppo. I said "no way". Of course he says "way". So I thought I had a scoop. Evidently I only have a half a scoop. He said they are supporting the Oppo 93 and 95!"

Oppo 95?

EDIT: Ah! Must be this, from Blu-ray.com:

"...Oppo is also working on a higher-end model. However, unlike the BDP-83SE (which was based on the BDP-83), this new flagship player will be built from the ground up. It isn't yet scheduled for release, so it will come well after the BDP-93 is well on the market..."

mikelj 24-09-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avi (Post 13061710)
Here's an idea of just how much "manipulation" is on offer. I hope Oppo provide a user options to selectively defeat these features as preferred.
Avi

Let's hope so - I really like "The Fifth Element"! There was good control over the VRS options with the 83, so I'd imagine there will be for the Qdeo (i.e. all off :)).

paulst10 24-09-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Hodson (Post 13062949)
"...Oppo is also working on a higher-end model. However, unlike the BDP-83SE (which was based on the BDP-83), this new flagship player will be built from the ground up. It isn't yet scheduled for release, so it will come well after the BDP-93 is well on the market..."

I wonder if they will implement more control over speaker distances and adjustable crossovers for this assuming they are building this from the ground up ? A different front panel wouldn't go amiss though :devil:

May be worth experimenting with when it's released :grin:

Avi 24-09-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikelj (Post 13063511)
Let's hope so - I really like "The Fifth Element"!


If you zoom on the "Fifth Element" before and after image you can get some idea of the affect being applied. Basically contrast at boundaries is exaggerated so that there is more sudden "black to white" type transition i.e. higher contrast rather than the more subtle boundary gradation in the original. This exaggeration causes us to perceive more detail when in fact there may actually be less. :)

Avi

IWC Dopplel 24-09-2010 2:43 PM

I do hope it has speaker control at least as good as the 3800 regarding crossover frequencies, levels and distances. I look forward to the SE version ;)

tristan2 24-09-2010 6:49 PM

will CRT be selling this?
will there a multi region mod for this

stranger 24-09-2010 6:50 PM

Wonder what LexiCon will do with this player:devil:

Avi 24-09-2010 7:13 PM

A few more images - CEDIA 2010 Show Report: Jim Milton - SECRETS CAVE

This report also claims the 93 has "WiFi".

Avi

Pecker 25-09-2010 11:53 AM

I love my 83.

One of the few limitations for me is that it won't play WMA Lossless and will only recognise a limited number of files & folders from any external HDD attached to the USB ports.

Fix this - something that shouldn't be too expensive or difficult - and the 93 becomes a media centre with ripped video and/or audio playback as well as from discs.

Steve W

mikelj 25-09-2010 3:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avi (Post 13063721)
If you zoom on the "Fifth Element" before and after image you can get some idea of the affect being applied. Basically contrast at boundaries is exaggerated so that there is more sudden "black to white" type transition i.e. higher contrast rather than the more subtle boundary gradation in the original. This exaggeration causes us to perceive more detail when in fact there may actually be less. :)

Avi

I know, bloody awful isn't it. What I meant was that I like the film as it is, not as per the "improved" still on the slide show:blush:.

Avi 25-09-2010 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikelj (Post 13070692)
I know, bloody awful isn't it. What I meant was that I like the film as it is, not as per the "improved" still on the slide show:blush:.

Oops thought you meant the other way. :)

Avi

MJeeves 26-09-2010 6:45 PM

Sounds great! :smashin:

leon 26-09-2010 8:51 PM

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i love the gloss front seeing as Arcam forgot about us using 7.1 analogue then i think this oppo might fit the bill :thumbsup:

and there is going to be an upgrade for the se version soon as well

Pusscat 27-09-2010 8:29 AM

I may have read it wrong, but I'm not sure there will be a chip / PCB/firmware upgrade to an 'SE' version. Won't the 'SE' or 95 be a complete new build up from ground level? Maybe sounds like upgrade from 93 to 95 won't be possible?

Bald Monkey 27-09-2010 8:44 AM

Is it wrong that I prefer the looks of the old design :confused:

This new one looks more like a digital STB to me :devil:

blacklion 27-09-2010 8:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bald Monkey (Post 13079636)
Is it wrong that I prefer the looks of the old design :confused:

This new one looks more like a digital STB to me :devil:

+1. Potential market opportunity for third party sellers/modders?;):grin:

DELUCAS 27-09-2010 11:28 AM

Damm more expense !!

will this player have better pic via dvd playback than the 83 ?

I take it there may be not much of an improvement pic wise via blu playback ?

guess will have to wait for reviews etc

very simular to LG BD390 of sorts but better build quality etc !

What i mean im trying to justify upgrading again to make a better leap forward !!

oh no here comes santa .... ;)

Wag 27-09-2010 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bald Monkey (Post 13079636)
Is it wrong that I prefer the looks of the old design :confused:

This new one looks more like a digital STB to me :devil:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I prefer the new payer.:)

John Hodson 28-09-2010 10:00 AM

Oppo comment via Twitter: "We anticipate releasing the BDP-93 by the end of the year, with November being our goal."

November will be essential I would have thought, having now officially discontinued the 83.

petetherock 28-09-2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Hodson (Post 13087150)
Oppo comment via Twitter: "We anticipate releasing the BDP-93 by the end of the year, with November being our goal."

November will be essential I would have thought, having now officially discontinued the 83.

Good news!

Projectorhead 29-09-2010 12:47 PM

Typical I am just getting the cash together for the BDP-83 and it's phased out hahaha!

Does anybody know if this new model will still be SACD and DVD-A compatible?

Cheers,

- John

Avi 29-09-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Projectorhead (Post 13096140)
Typical I am just getting the cash together for the BDP-83 and it's phased out hahaha!

Does anybody know if this new model will still be SACD and DVD-A compatible?

Cheers,

- John

"Jason Liao reveals the newest BD player from Oppo which will play 3-D Blu-ray discs. It has 2 HDMI (1.4a) outs, USB front and back, milled aluminum front with flush tactile buttons, Besides being a 3-D player, it has WiFi, DVD-A and SACD playback...street price is not firm, but it will be close to what the BDP-83 is going for: $499."

Avi

Projectorhead 29-09-2010 12:56 PM

Thanks for that AVI :smashin:

However have just read elsewhere that there isn't a pair of dedicated stereo outputs anymore, which is of concern to me as I wanted it for SACD and DVD-A playback too. The BDP-83 seemed to be all things to all men, whereas this new one - perhaps - is more tailored towards the videophile, rather than audiophile.

Sure is nice looking though!

Avi 29-09-2010 2:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Projectorhead (Post 13096241)
Thanks for that AVI :smashin:

However have just read elsewhere that there isn't a pair of dedicated stereo outputs anymore, which is of concern to me as I wanted it for SACD and DVD-A playback too. The BDP-83 seemed to be all things to all men, whereas this new one - perhaps - is more tailored towards the videophile, rather than audiophile.

Sure is nice looking though!

There will be a new model aimed that those looking for higher performance analogue output. :)

Avi


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