Best HDMI DVD Player with 576i output

**Stuart** · 09-07-2008, 3:44 PM

It's been a good few years since I've bought a new SD DVD player so I'm after some advice.

I need a decent MR DVD player capable of outputting 576i to my Pioneer 6090.
SACD capability would be useful but not a must and I don't want to spend much more than £200. (Unless I would notice a significent improvement).

I have a PS3, XE1 and Denon 2900 but none can output 576i through HDMI and I want the panel to do all of the scaling & deinterlacing.

Of the above, ony the Denon can output 576i but it's through component and the image looks a little soft.

Thanks for any pointers.

jerrymac · 09-07-2008, 4:06 PM

Take a look at the Oppo 980H.
http://www.oppodigital.com
Can be ordered in the EU from http://www.opposhop.com

A full thread in these forums on it...

philipb · 09-07-2008, 4:07 PM

Oppo 980 is well regarded. Don't have one myself but may take the plunge soon. About £150 I think.

aditya · 09-07-2008, 5:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AV Junkie

It's been a good few years since I've bought a new SD DVD player so I'm after some advice.

I need a decent MR DVD player capable of outputting 576i to my Pioneer 6090.
SACD capability would be useful but not a must and I don't want to spend much more than £200. (Unless I would notice a significent improvement).

I have a PS3, XE1 and Denon 2900 but none can output 576i through HDMI and I want the panel to do all of the scaling & deinterlacing.

Of the above, ony the Denon can output 576i but it's through component and the image looks a little soft.

Thanks for any pointers.

I got the Pioneer DV-600AV in black for 94 quid. had exactly the same requirements as yours as I wanted the Pio to do the upscaling. It outputs 576i for PAL and 480i for NTSC via HDMI. I also wanted region-free and Divx playback. This one even plays back Divx from memory sticks through the USB port. It seems the DV 400 is also very similar, only without codecs, but I got the 600 cos I got it reasonably cheap. Hope this helps !

kingfats · 09-07-2008, 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AV Junkie

It's been a good few years since I've bought a new SD DVD player so I'm after some advice.

I need a decent MR DVD player capable of outputting 576i to my Pioneer 6090.
SACD capability would be useful but not a must and I don't want to spend much more than £200. (Unless I would notice a significent improvement).

I have a PS3, XE1 and Denon 2900 but none can output 576i through HDMI and I want the panel to do all of the scaling & deinterlacing.

Of the above, ony the Denon can output 576i but it's through component and the image looks a little soft.

Thanks for any pointers.

Hi mate.

You want a player that can send an "unaltered" image @ 576i over HDMI

the Oppo 980H does this.

All the best.

Meridius · 09-07-2008, 5:28 PM

why do you not use the ps3 as it is a blu-ray as well, is the ps3 crap for playing dvds ? as i am wanting the new pioneer

nbat58 · 09-07-2008, 5:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aditya

I got the Pioneer DV-600AV in black for 94 quid. had exactly the same requirements as yours as I wanted the Pio to do the upscaling. It outputs 576i for PAL and 480i for NTSC via HDMI. I also wanted region-free and Divx playback. This one even plays back Divx from memory sticks through the USB port. It seems the DV 400 is also very similar, only without codecs, but I got the 600 cos I got it reasonably cheap. Hope this helps !

Ditto, I am extremely happy with the Pioneer DV-600AV, on the 6090 having a good print DVD can look almost as good as blue-ray.

Meridius · 09-07-2008, 6:00 PM

removed sorry

kingfats · 09-07-2008, 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Meridius

why do you not use the ps3 as it is a blu-ray as well, is the ps3 crap for playing dvds ? as i am wanting the new pioneer

Hi mate.

The PS3 is good DVD player

but it can't send DVD @ source direct,which is what the O.P wants.

All the best.

Meridius · 09-07-2008, 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi mate.

The PS3 is good DVD player

but it can't send DVD @ source direct,which is what the O.P wants.

All the best.

what is the advantage then ? would there be a great deal of diffrence in picture quality or just a little

kingfats · 09-07-2008, 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Meridius

what is the advantage then ? would there be a great deal of diffrence in picture quality or just a little

Hi mate.

It all depends how good your displays internal processing is.

All the best.

Kyo6JM · 09-07-2008, 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi mate.

The PS3 is good DVD player

but it can't send DVD @ source direct,which is what the O.P wants.

All the best.

Plus it's quite power hungry and loud for a DVD player...

**Stuart** · 09-07-2008, 9:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyo6JM

Plus it's quite power hungry and loud for a DVD player...

And not region free.

Thanks for the help all.

Regarding the Oppo suggested, I would be concerned that I'd be buying something with a lot of bells and whistles that I won't use and possibly sacrificing the best PQ & AQ.

My main concern is to get the best 576i/480i output to make the most of the Pio. Any other features would be a bonus but are not necessary.

Keep the suggestions coming

kingfats · 09-07-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AV Junkie

My main concern is to get the best 576i/480i output to make the most of the Pio. Any other features would be a bonus but are not necessary.

Keep the suggestions coming

Hi AV Junkie.

Don't forget,a lot of players that can send @ 576i still don't send the picture unaltered

there's some that go 576i > 576p > 576i before sending

don't ask me why.
Cheers.

**Stuart** · 09-07-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi AV Junkie.

Don't forget,a lot of players that can send @ 576i still don't send the picture unaltered

there's some that go 576i > 576p > 576i before sending

don't ask me why.
Cheers.

Ouch. That seems a bit daft

Thanks for the heads-up. I am drawn to the Pio 600 mentioned or possibly the newer 610. I take it they are 576i direct?

kingfats · 09-07-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AV Junkie

Ouch. That seems a bit daft

Thanks for the heads-up. I am drawn to the Pio 600 mentioned or possibly the newer 610. I take it they are 476i direct?

I think the Pio 600 is ok

some Pioneer's have a Direct mode where the picture is sent simply how it was originally encoded.
Happy hunting.

Sqwonk · 10-07-2008, 9:34 AM

Hi

I realise your budget is around £200 max but thought i would at least mention the merits of the Pioneer DV-LX50. I was recently in the exact same position as yourself (wanting a good 576i capable, multi region player) to replace my faithful ol Denon 1920.
Like you i also am the proud owner of the 6090 and bought the DV-LX50 based on reviews...i couldnt be happier, it is in my opinion a superb player and matches the screen perfectly...This £500 player is currently on sale at Superfi for £269 and comes Multi-region. Here is the Link http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/p...roduct_ID/3617
Hope this is of some help.....good luck

Pulse1 · 10-07-2008, 5:08 PM

Just a heads up about the Pioneer DV-600.....It can't do Blacker than black from either it's Hdmi or Component outputs

Brian

Meridius · 10-07-2008, 8:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi AV Junkie.

Don't forget,a lot of players that can send @ 576i still don't send the picture unaltered

there's some that go 576i > 576p > 576i before sending

don't ask me why.
Cheers.

what does the ps3 do ? will it output 576i unaltered ?

kingfats · 10-07-2008, 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Meridius

what does the ps3 do ? will it output 576i unaltered ?

Hi Meridius.

576p only over HDMI.
All the best.

Meridius · 11-07-2008, 5:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi Meridius.

576p only over HDMI.
All the best.

so is that the best or do you need it to be 576i ? or P

Avi · 11-07-2008, 6:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Meridius

so is that the best or do you need it to be 576i ? or P

It just means you are stuck with the PS3's deinterlacing and would not be able to provide native 576i from DVD to a device that has better deinterlacing capabilities.

AVI

philipb · 13-07-2008, 4:56 PM

Found a Pio 400 in my local comet going cheap - ex demo - so took a chance.

Outputting 576i into my Lumagen HDQ is very impressive. Did want an Oppo, but this was too good to miss at the price.

Meridius · 13-07-2008, 6:40 PM

so will the pioneer 5090 do a better job at deinterlacing than the ps3 ?

so the best 2 dvd players for this tv are

oppo or dv-lx50 ?

or is there any other better ones

is it best to let teh tv do the work using these 2 players or can thay do a better job at up scaling than the tv

and which is better the oppo or lx50 ?

rhubarbe · 14-07-2008, 2:09 PM

Any other beside the DV980H that output 4:2:2 colour space and do 2:2 cadence detection?

I'm looking at DV-LX50, Marantz DV7600 and Yamaha DVD-S2700 (but only if I can find a black one).

Marantz does 4:2:2 and 2:2 pulldown but not 576i out of hdmi;
DVD-S2700 does none of the above but looks good and is cheap right now;
DV-LX50 does 576i out of HDMI but I can't find out about 4:2:2 or 2:2 cadence.

Anybody knows, big help.

Otherwise Oppo DV980H beckons.

kingfats · 14-07-2008, 2:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rhubarbe

DV-LX50 does 576i out of HDMI but I can't find out about 4:2:2 or 2:2 cadence.

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Hi rhubarbe.

If your sending 576i then 2:2 cadence,etc will be done outside of the player.

Sorry if i read your post wrong.
All the best.

**Stuart** · 14-07-2008, 2:31 PM

I'm also considering the LG Super Blu BH200. The thought of a 1 box for DVD/Blu-ray/HD DVD is very tempting, especially considering it's region free for blu as well. I just need to do a little more digging to see if it can do 576i direct.

I could then sell my XE1 & PS3

Digicon · 14-07-2008, 5:04 PM

Just a thought but i just bought another panasonic DMR-EZ27B for my cinema room as i already have one in the lounge for my Pioneer plasma, I was in the same quandry as you looking for a DVD player with 576i output through HDMI well the panasonic does and it had great write up in every magazine review. I paid £99.95 for my first from Richers and now tesco have these at the same price bargain Player, Recorder and freeview all thrown into one.

rhubarbe · 14-07-2008, 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfats

Hi rhubarbe.

If your sending 576i then 2:2 cadence,etc will be done outside of the player.

Sorry if i read your post wrong.
All the best.

Yo kingfats.

If that's the case then why all the fuss about the lack of 2:2 cadence on the DV980H on all but the latest beta software?

kingfats · 14-07-2008, 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rhubarbe

Yo kingfats.

If that's the case then why all the fuss about the lack of 2:2 cadence on the DV980H on all but the latest beta software?

Hi rhubarbe.

You would need it doing properly if you were choosing anything but 576i,as the DV980H would be doing the processing and not your scaler or display.
All the best.