[Jedi_Wookie]

Hi Guys,

can any one recomend a decent HDMI dvd player and explain to me how exactly they work with conventional DVD being played on them?
i.e any upscaling go on?

Cheers

[Lin3ar]

I have the Samsung 850 going to my Panny ldx52 and to be honest there is not a lot of difference between 1080i, 720p and 576p.
720p seems to be a bit sharper but that is about it.It is a great picture though IMHO.

[Jedi_Wookie]

So are you playing just regular DVD's on it or are they HD disc's?

how would you rate the HD DVD pic to the sky pic obviously better but lots or only just?

[Lin3ar]

Originally Posted by Jedi_Wookie

So are you playing just regular DVD's on it or are they HD disc's?

how would you rate the HD DVD pic to the sky pic obviously better but lots or only just?

This is just playing normal DVD's.You can't play HD DVD's on the 850.
It is not a HD DVD player(they are not out in this country yet) but one that artificially outputs 720p/1080i.

Compared to Sky it is a bit better but there is not a huge difference.I am very happy with the sky picture on my Panasonic and the Samsung one is sharper and more detailed, about 20% better if you want me to put a figure on it.

[jamiev]

Originally Posted by Jedi_Wookie

Hi Guys,

can any one recomend a decent HDMI dvd player and explain to me how exactly they work with conventional DVD being played on them?
i.e any upscaling go on?

Cheers

hi, have you seen the oppo? http://www.itsupplies.net/product_in...roducts_id=247

it has dvi---hdmi lead. Upscales but your visual equipment needs to be compatible!

u got a screen or projector??

[Jedi_Wookie]

I have a sony lcd 40" jobbie, that dvd player looks pretty good for the money.
who is oppo though?

[Kalos Geros]

Originally Posted by Jedi_Wookie

I have a sony lcd 40" jobbie, that dvd player looks pretty good for the money.
who is oppo though?

The company that makes it...

[Dom996]

Hi

I have never heard of a Jedi Wookie!!

Due to the nature of HDMI and HDCP handshake, you need to speak to someone with knowledge of the panel as a player that works great on HDMI with say a Samsung may not look so good with the Sony. A good dealer maybe a good place to start.

Unfortunately it is the way of the HDMI side!!!!

Regards

D Sidious

[The Jayler]

i've got the Sammy HD950 going through a dlp r/pro. Great picture via hdmi. Very crisp (may be a little too sometimes). Not much difference between 565/720/1080. I prefer 720p. Good player for £100. But remember it is a £100 player, not the latest (soon to be released) HD player, so don't expect miricles.

[Lord Midas]

I too have the Sammy HD950. Hdmi onto my Sammy 26 incher and 720p and my movies never looked better.

Originally Posted by rich sps

Good player for £100. But remember it is a £100 player, not the latest (soon to be released) HD player, so don't expect miricles.

This is true. What is it they say about these HD TV's? "Feed them well" well, if you've got good a quality DVD like Revenge of teh Sith or Kingdom of Heaven you'll never go back to regular DVD players!

[Jedi_Wookie]

So am I best holding off for a DVD player until the next gen ones are released?
Any one have any ideas what the difference would be between this oppo one and a next gen one if any?

Think im prob best wait 2 months as when sky release there HD content and box im sure the dvd player guys will flood the market with dvd players too...

(as for a jedi wookie, there isnt one but how cool would it be if there was!!!)
(a little fury ninja like dude with mind tricks!! he he he)

[brandondanger]

ill try asking here, think its worth while replacing my old but expensive denon2800mk2 for a £100 hdmi player? if so which one? the tosh 350 or sammy 850? the denon will then be relagated to cd duties!

[The Jayler]

Originally Posted by Jedi_Wookie

So am I best holding off for a DVD player until the next gen ones are released?

Well that depends on how large your wallet is. I would immagine the new HD dvd players will be £400+ to start off with and the disks to go with them £25 ( like dvds were back in 1998, ouch i remember). So if you want to enjoy the disks you already have in a great quality for the next 12 months then splash out a ton a buy the sammy 850. (£80 in richer sounds) If not, then wait a year and grab a HD player.

[Jedi_Wookie]

I guess the biggest problem here is the format that will be used for tur HD..
either blue ray or the toshiba format cant remember what its called..

The first generation of dvd players I think will be both a technology and financial risk...
The only real solution I think will be a duel format player to account for both
but the cost of that would be huge...

So I think as rich sps says the sammy is the best bet in the short run
and within 12 months I think we will be able to see the direction HD DVD is going.

Thanks guys my decision is made the sammy it is....

[BOOGY]

Ive owned a Samsung 835, with faroudja upscaling, dvi output........and the image was excellent.

upscaling actually worked brilliantly.

I say that, as I now have a Sony ns92, and its great, on component, but on hdmi upscaling, there is no noticeable difference at different res.s

go for faroudja processing.

now I know why its so well respected. it works !

[Joe Fernand]

Jedi_Wookie

Your understanding of HDMI, High Definition capable sources and High Definition video formats seems to be on a par with my understanding of Jedi's and Wookie's

HDMI is an interconnect standard - it can transmit Standard and High Definition Digital video signals along with Stereo and Multi-channel Digital audio along a single cable; importantly for the Movie industry it also adds Digital Encryption (HDCP) to the signal being Output on an HDMI socket to stop folk making unlicensed copies.

High Definition (HD) video comes in a fair few formats already with more to come in the future - currently the formats that you can access include the likes of WMV HD (see http://www.wmvhd.com/ ), DivX-HD (see http://www.divx.com/hd/ ), MPEG4... ; there are lots of HD codecs and not all HD capable players will decoded every format.

HD video can be delivered over the Air (Satellite), over a wire (Cable), on a Tape (see http://www.dvhsmovie.com/) on a current generation optical disc (DVD-Rom) plus there are new blue laser optical disc formats coming out of Japan in the coming year or so (HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc).

Up-conversion - a DVD Video disc that's R1 carries the Standard Definition (SD) movie in MPEG2 format at 720x480 pixels and an R2 SD movie in MPEG2 format at 720x576 pixels. Some DVD players offer you the option of up-converting the MPEG2 video stream to 1280x720P or 1920x1080i pixels - which can be useful if your Display handles the up-converted signal better than the Native format of the disc.

Up-conversion nor HDMI guarantees you a better image compared with playing back an SD movie on a DVD player not equipped with HDMI and not equipped with video up-conversion - choose carefully and one or both feature may pay dividends but nothing is guaranteed.

HD for many will be delivered via the web, a home network and a networked Media Player and not via one of the new optical disc formats (HD DVD and Blue-ray Disc) - as others have said these new formats are not going to be inexpensive, they are currently not compatible with each other and the price of the Discs also looks like it could be quite costly.

Networked Media Players that are HD capable are already available and are relatively low cost compared to what we know about HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc players - some of the Networked Media Players that are available now will play your DVD Video discs, offer you Progressive scan Output and up-convert to 720P and 1080i over both Analogue and Digital Video Outputs and are not that much more expensive than the entry level up-scaling DVD players your already considering; see Product feature : SnaZio Net DVD Cinema HD

Best regards

Joe