[chuckstones]

Has anyone tried renaming the 'scene' allocations?
i.e. button 3 from 'tv viewing' to 'sky tv'

I keep getting an asterix (*)to the left.And if i type the new name dead centre of the screen,it shifts it to the right when you apply it!!

[nickymarshall]

Originally Posted by andya

it says £299 i assume the price you are saying is with being a vip member

Yes, but that doesn't exactly take a lot of doing. £299 is the stupid person's price

[andya]

so if your a vip member its £279 ,had a long day mate lol

[nickymarshall]

Yep, but my post wasn't a dig at you - was just saying it's not hard to become a VIP member, therefore you'd be daft to pay the full price.

[JohnnyJ555]

Hi can anybody tell me how to disable the Adaptive DRC?
And is there any other settings i should change to make it better sounding?

Ty.

And also my crossover is set to 110 what does that mean

Originally Posted by dalar

Its in the manual setup.... you will find it....I can't remember right now where it is but it will be part of the manual setup.... the manual should also point to where it is located.

As for crossover check this:
smartalix.com - What is a Crossover?

Ok thanks for that! But what should my crossover be set to?

[andya]

one of those days nicky ,cheers for that info ,will try and pick one up tommorow

[dalar]

Originally Posted by JohnnyJ555

Hi can anybody tell me how to disable the Adaptive DRC?
And is there any other settings i should change to make it better sounding?

Ty.

Its in the manual setup.... you will find it....I can't remember right now where it is but it will be part of the manual setup.... the manual should also point to where it is located.

As for crossover check this:
smartalix.com - What is a Crossover?

[dalar]

Originally Posted by chuckstones

Has anyone tried renaming the 'scene' allocations?
i.e. button 3 from 'tv viewing' to 'sky tv'

I keep getting an asterix (*)to the left.And if i type the new name dead centre of the screen,it shifts it to the right when you apply it!!

when you say.... Dead centre are you actually putting in white spaces to get to the center.... if you just typed PS3 and submitted that, it should automatically center for you on the display?

I'm not sure if you can get rid of the asterisk tho

[JohnnyJ555]

Was also wondering if the EQ settings should be left alone or changed?
TY.

[dalar]

Originally Posted by JohnnyJ555

Ok thanks for that! But what should my crossover be set to?

Originally Posted by JohnnyJ555

Was also wondering if the EQ settings should be left alone or changed?
TY.

These things we cannot give you exact answers for, these depend pureley on your hearing and what sounds good to you.

EQ generally has been tweaked by many members since the amp can be fairly 'bright' out of the box, meaning that you hear a lot more of the top end sound. There is an EQ for every channel, so you must repeat your settings for each one...

I personally have reduced the top notches for all channels by about 2 bars, this has reduced the amps 'over-brightness' and the system sounds much more dynamic ....to me. I kept the centre speaker slightly open however (reduced notches by 1).

As for crossover, that will depend entireley on your sub and how good it is, for really good bass I have found setting the crossover at 80Hz works pretty well... but then again this is for 'my' setup, and my type of sub.

I'd probably leave it at 100hz and see how it feels...I found with my sub a higher crossover setting resulted in some 'noisy bass/rumble'.

[gpm02]

Will the 763 work with speakers of impedence other than 8

My fronts are 6 and rears are 4-8

Cheers

G

[Fido87456]

Originally Posted by gpm02

Will the 763 work with speakers of impedence other than 8

My fronts are 6 and rears are 4-8

Cheers

G

yup, there is a setting on the amp to change the impedance setting for each speaker

[chuckstones]

Could someone kindly explain the crossover in layman's (thicko's)terms please.Just can't get my head around it!!

I've done an auto calibration approx 8 times.And each one gives my crossover at 160hz (once 200)!!
My speakers are the canton cd102's.And the sub dials are set at max crossover of 150hz (range 65-150) and the level is set at just under halfway (-6) as reccomended in the manual!
I know i can manually adjust the crossover as well as numerous other settings.But with it set at 160,am i missing any frequencies out?

The sony 820 i just exchanged for the 763 gave a crossover of 120hz.

I'm wondering if it is anything to do with the positioning of my system in my lounge!
My fronts are all on my tv stand with the sub directly behind the tv in an alcove!(my missus won't have it on show.And to be honest room is lacking to put it elsewhere.)
And my surrounds are either side of my sofa on the back wall!

Another strange setting that the auto cal gives is the levels!
It give the speakers nearest to me (front left and rear left) as higher(+) than the ones further away.So these i manually adjust!

Any help would be appreciated!

[Fido87456]

I can't help on the crossover question, as I don't have a sub. Just though it was worth mentioning that when I did the auto calibration, it came up with wildly inaccurate settings for speaker distances and also set the levels strangely. The graphic equaliser settings in particular were truly horrible, very harsh.
I thought I'd made a massive mistake buying the amp until I went through and set everything up manually, at which point the amp showed its true qualities. I really recommend throwing the useless auto setup microphone away, and setting up the speaker distances etc manually. Then put a film on and start with the volumes on each speaker at +0 and with the graphic equalisers on flat and adjust to suit your ears.

[Dav1dF]

Generally, Yamaha's auto setup tends to work a little more consistently than most manufacturers auto setups. The crossover point will vary from room to room, even with the same speakers, as the room does have a large effect on the speakers frequency response. Sometimes, weird room layouts and oddities can also trick the setup into thinking speakers are closer or futher away etc. Usually, distances are fairly accurate, but it's always wise to check. As for crossover frequencies, sometimes it does seem that the amp sets them quite high, but again, I have found this fairly accurate. A satellite speakers spec may give ratings down to 50/60Hz, but in reality they'll struggle to get anywhere near 100Hz. Many speaker packages that are alcking sometimes benefit from this higher crossover point, so give it a try and see what you think - you might be surprised.

[JohnnyJ555]

Originally Posted by dalar

These things we cannot give you exact answers for, these depend pureley on your hearing and what sounds good to you.

EQ generally has been tweaked by many members since the amp can be fairly 'bright' out of the box, meaning that you hear a lot more of the top end sound. There is an EQ for every channel, so you must repeat your settings for each one...

I personally have reduced the top notches for all channels by about 2 bars, this has reduced the amps 'over-brightness' and the system sounds much more dynamic ....to me. I kept the centre speaker slightly open however (reduced notches by 1).

As for crossover, that will depend entireley on your sub and how good it is, for really good bass I have found setting the crossover at 80Hz works pretty well... but then again this is for 'my' setup, and my type of sub.

I'd probably leave it at 100hz and see how it feels...I found with my sub a higher crossover setting resulted in some 'noisy bass/rumble'.

I am using kef3005se speakers and sub.

[dalar]

Originally Posted by Fido87456

I can't help on the crossover question, as I don't have a sub. Just though it was worth mentioning that when I did the auto calibration, it came up with wildly inaccurate settings for speaker distances and also set the levels strangely. The graphic equaliser settings in particular were truly horrible, very harsh.
I thought I'd made a massive mistake buying the amp until I went through and set everything up manually, at which point the amp showed its true qualities. I really recommend throwing the useless auto setup microphone away, and setting up the speaker distances etc manually. Then put a film on and start with the volumes on each speaker at +0 and with the graphic equalisers on flat and adjust to suit your ears.

....sums up the entire thread nicely

[dalar]

Originally Posted by JohnnyJ555

I am using kef3005se speakers and sub.

I'm guessing thats just the speakers right, not the model of the sub, thats really what you want to know so that you can check the manual/specs online to find out its range.

Suppose I had the same sub as you, and I supplied you with my crossover freq setting.... as Dav1dF (above) touches on.... you could have a different room layout which may mean that your sub does not respond in the same way mine would despite you having all the same settings.

To get the very best sound, you need to tinker with the values yourself to find the right balance - I appreciate that it is helpful to have some basic guidance though, such as disabling adaptive drc in which I think nearly everyone will agree is just useless and dampens the sound quite a bit.

If you can't find the manual, I would simply set your crossover to 100Hz... play a scene in which there is bass, ideally I would probably test some kind of scene that has explosions, 'The Rock' is an good example here.... then play the entire scene again, but this time change your crossover , either increase of decrease the value from 100Hz and listen again to the same scene...

You will eventually find which value feels right to you.... in fact thats the only real way to calibrate this kind of stuff, change something, go back and test....change again.... took me three days, but so worth it for the sound it can produce.

Yamaha.... please rethink your auto-calibration - its not helping!

[chuckstones]

Ok thanks chaps!
I'll have another long fiddle with it tomorrow! (and my amp).
As Fido suggests i might reset everything to +0 and start afresh!

btw. Superfi have just shot the price back up to £391.44

[dalar]

Originally Posted by chuckstones

Ok thanks chaps!
I'll have another long fiddle with it tomorrow! (and my amp).
As Fido suggests i might reset everything to +0 and start afresh!

btw. Superfi have just shot the price back up to £391.44

Yeah - There's a thread lurking in the forum about recent Yamaha price jumps.... but it seems that the ax763 may not be affected (directly by Yamaha)...

[nickymarshall]

It has been a loooonnnnnggggg week waiting for mine to arrive, but I pick it up tomorrow, along with my Kef 2005.3's.

Yay - no more watching Blu-Ray's with the crappy sound from my Samsung's lame speakers.

Big up to Sevenoaks who had me chewing my nails when my order nearly turned into a 3 month wait, but they pulled through and found me a 763. Only trouble is I have to endure 90 minutes of Championship football in Sheffield, then pick them up and drive home to Matlock before I can even think about setting them up. I think this one will run through till Sunday somehow

[Helicon]

It's only the 1900 and 3900 that are going up.

[chuckstones]

Well.I've been having a good fiddle with the settings manually today.And it already sounds better than the auto setup!
I mainly adjusted the levels.But the distances apart from the sub were pretty accurate!

I have one dilemma though!
Been assigning my scene buttons.I.e for button 4 i've renamed it 'Xbox 360'.And changed the input accordingly to 'sur decode' (for dolbly digital)!
Now.When i set button 3 for 'Sky TV' i put the same input 'sur decode'.So that it will pick up 'prologic' on SD channels,and 'DD' on HD channels.
The thing is! It won't remember when i switch the tv and amp off and on!
I have to keep pressing the 'Audio' button and select 'coax/opt'.
Although on 'Auto' it seems to be decoding 'DD' but only showing as 2 channels on display!!

Is this a SKY issue (HDMI not carrying DD via HDMI)?
Or is there a way it will save?

The sony 820 would remember after it had the fix!

[Miss Chief]

I've finally got round to setting the amp up and I'm trying to use the auto setup to get an idea of what to expect before I start tweaking but I keep getting an error, 'Check Sur B' after it cycles the test tone through the LF, Centre, RF and then RRS speakers. Is it expecting a rear speaker of some sort rather than just 5.1? I've looked through the settings and changed anything to do with rear or extra surr to off but I keep getting the message. Any ideas anyone? I've swapped the rear speakers round so I know it's not a problem with them.

Found out what I've done and will sort it later.

[Grayman]

Need some advice on how best to achieve what im after.

My front left and right speakers are Mission E34 floorstanders. These have 12.5cm drivers (x2) so according to the manual should be set to Small, which they are.

Thing is, they are capable of handling a good deal of bass, and I really want to use them to their full effect. Reading the manual on how to assign the LFE output, the settings are Both/SWFR/Front, so I would expect Both to mean that low frequencies would go to both fronts and Sub, but the manual says that when set to Both, only the SWFR gets any output, not both.

Seems strange as then all you can choose is either sub exclusively or fronts exclusively, not use both. Is there any way to use both sub and fronts for bass? currently set to Sub only for now.

The crossover is also not customizable for each speaker from what I can find. Ideally I would want the crossover for the centre to be about 80, rears 100, and fronts probably 50 or 60, but all I can do is choose one value for all of them, so again cant use this to allow the fronts to handle more lows then the comparitively small rears/centre.

Not sure there is any way around that?


One final query, when I listen to music I only want to use the front right and left, no sub etc at all. I select Music Listening, and select Stereo (comes up as 2 channel stereo), but I find the sub is still being used. Id like the full range of sound/frequencies to go only to the two fronts, but cant find anything that allows me to do this. The fronts can handle the full range that music disks put out and I prefer the clarity that speakers like this that are designed for full range music can give, so dont want the sub getting in the mix.

I can turn the sub off as it has its own on/off switch, but am not certain whether the amp would still be trying to send the lowest frequencies to this regardless?

Any ideas???

For info, my setup is:
PS3 for music and movies
AX763
Mission E34's front r/l
Mordaunt Short alumni centre
Harman Kardon HKTS11 rears
Harman Kardon 200W powered subwoofer

[drumbeat]

Hi

After much deliberation and reading on here I have 99% decided I will be buying this AV Amp.

My only 1% of hessitation, and its not specifically the Yamaha, is, as this is my first baptism into an AV-Surround system, it seems setting these Amps up can be problematic !! ie getting the right sound, is it in Dolby, DTS, crossovers, equaliser settings, by passing PCM...if you get my drift ! IS IT REALLY THAT COMPLEX !

I will be connecting this up to A Panasonic DMP BD55 Blu-Ray + LZD800 TV, not got Sky yet, but its on the cards and only a PSP2. 5:1 Speakers -not fully decided, but more than likely Q Acoustics 1010i's.

So will setting it up and getting the best from it be straight forward ?.. I dont mind abit of tinkering for personnal taste buy I simply want to be able to put my discs in and hopefully they will upscale /de-code / play etc...in the correct sound ( ie: Dolby D, Dolby DTS / DTS-HD, True HD and so on), and format without too much effort....or AM I DREAMING !!

And while I'm writing and maybe I may seem a little...doh !, whats better 5:1 or PCM Stereo, as often wondered when you get the Audio options on the discs themselves.

Thanks for reading + feel free to respond.

[dalar]

Originally Posted by drumbeat

Hi

After much deliberation and reading on here I have 99% decided I will be buying this AV Amp.

My only 1% of hessitation, and its not specifically the Yamaha, is, as this is my first baptism into an AV-Surround system, it seems setting these Amps up can be problematic !! ie getting the right sound, is it in Dolby, DTS, crossovers, equaliser settings, by passing PCM...if you get my drift ! IS IT REALLY THAT COMPLEX !

I will be connecting this up to A Panasonic DMP BD55 Blu-Ray + LZD800 TV, not got Sky yet, but its on the cards and only a PSP2. 5:1 Speakers -not fully decided, but more than likely Q Acoustics 1010i's.

So will setting it up and getting the best from it be straight forward ?.. I dont mind abit of tinkering for personnal taste buy I simply want to be able to put my discs in and hopefully they will upscale /de-code / play etc...in the correct sound ( ie: Dolby D, Dolby DTS / DTS-HD, True HD and so on), and format without too much effort....or AM I DREAMING !!

And while I'm writing and maybe I may seem a little...doh !, whats better 5:1 or PCM Stereo, as often wondered when you get the Audio options on the discs themselves.

Thanks for reading + feel free to respond.

Hi,

If your blu-ray player can 'BITSTREAM' HD audio via the HDMI, then you will be fine, simply connect it to the amp and connect the amp to your TV via HDMI and your ready to go....

For those of use who have blu-ray players that are unable to BITSTREAM HD audio via the HDMI (eg. PS3) ... we have to let the PS3 to the decoding and pass over the PCM signal.

A word about PCM. I used to think that PCM was something completley different, then I found out that 'everything' is technically PCM, its like the digital audio signal that most devices use, eg. your pc.

Best way to think about it is like this... say you have a 5.1 dvd/bluray disc and suppose there are 6 files for each speaker:

speaker-Front-Left.sound
speaker-Front-Right.sound
speaker-Center.sound
speaker-Rear-Left.sound
speaker-Rear-Right.sound
speaker-Sub.sound

Now in bitstream mode, you are basically putting all the files in one zip file:

speaker-sounds.zip (contains all files in one)

and this one file is being sent directly to the amp which will decode it into 6 PCM audio channels ... and send out the audio to each speaker.... so if your bluray player is set to BITSTREAM, it will stream the ZIP file to your amp and let it do the work....

When you set your player's audio output to PCM mode instead of BITSTREAM, your asking your player to decode (unzip) the file, and then stream all 6 files over the HDMI cable to your amp..... the yammy will know that the signal being passed in is PCM and will pass the audio to each of the speakers.

These things seem a lot harder to understand if you don't know much about it, my only advice to you would be to abandon the auto setup... dont be fooled into thinking that its 'ideal' for people who don't have much experience, it seems to mess quite a few things up.... go full manual setup, some of the earlier pages here have great tips to help you choose the correct settings (manual mode).

[dalar]

Originally Posted by Grayman

Thing is, they are capable of handling a good deal of bass, and I really want to use them to their full effect. Reading the manual on how to assign the LFE output, the settings are Both/SWFR/Front, so I would expect Both to mean that low frequencies would go to both fronts and Sub, but the manual says that when set to Both, only the SWFR gets any output, not both.

That's pretty strange, mine is set to BOTH and I get the lows through my fronts and the sub... have you actually tried it or are you going by what the manual says?

One tip is to change your speaker size in the setup menu, see if this has any effect.... it made a lot of difference for me, opened up my speakers more, that might help you.

I don't think there is a easy way to disable the sub... personally I need it with my setup to give it a bit of a kick

[Miss Chief]

Should I be seeing a 'true HD' light on the front of it? Was playing Transformers and the disc options were set to TrueHD English but didn't see any indication on the amp? It does say HDMI though?

Could only really hear the surround at certain times but I daresay I need to tweak the levels but sound through the centre speaker especially was crystal clear. Had the sub turned down low though, being 3am and all that.

[Garcian]

Originally Posted by Skytech

Should I be seeing a 'true HD' light on the front of it? Was playing Transformers and the disc options were set to TrueHD English but didn't see any indication on the amp? It does say HDMI though?

Could only really hear the surround at certain times but I daresay I need to tweak the levels but sound through the centre speaker especially was crystal clear. Had the sub turned down low though, being 3am and all that.

Yes the TrueHD indicator should light up & the word 'Straight' should be displayed on the amp.

Go into the settings on your Sony player & make sure that the audio option is set to 'Direct' rather than 'Mix' - this will then stream TrueHD to your amp for decoding.