[simpam]

Originally Posted by Mausse

Does the V3800 have PIP?

No.

Originally Posted by pauldarrington

can someone tell me if the amp does post processing...

Yes.

Originally Posted by SportiveUK

So, could anyone that uses if for upscaling various sources to output at 720p/1080p via HDMI advise on whether it does a good job?

It does, but you can't expect miracles, of course.

[Jeje2]

Originally Posted by Mausse

PIP? i miss that in my V2600.

Did V2600 really have PIP - had it for almost two years (just sold my old) never even knowing.

(Well if you don't know what you are missing, you don't even know to miss it )

[simpam]

Originally Posted by Jeje2

Did V2600 really have PIP

Actually Mausse meant that he would have LIKED the PIP on his 2600, but it is NOT available.
Thus he asked if by chance it's available on the 3800.
That's my understanding, anyway.

[panayis]

I have a question for you with regards to the video scaling of the amp. I have a Pioneer LX508 plasma (full hd), set to "dot by dot".
I have set the amp to scale up to 1080p. Almost all sources it is scaling do not fill the screen. This would indicate that the scaling is not done to 1080p, but is actually expecting the screen to perform overscan, so its scaling to a (slightly) lower resolution.

Is there a setting I am missing that forces the amp to scale the picture to 1080p actual rather than not use 5% of my screen?

I could set the plasma to "full", where it overscans (and the picture then does fill the screen), but this doesn't give the best picture for either the xbox or the PC.

[simonoaks]

Originally Posted by panayis

I have a question for you with regards to the video scaling of the amp. I have a Pioneer LX508 plasma (full hd), set to "dot by dot".
I have set the amp to scale up to 1080p. Almost all sources it is scaling do not fill the screen. This would indicate that the scaling is not done to 1080p, but is actually expecting the screen to perform overscan, so its scaling to a (slightly) lower resolution.

Is there a setting I am missing that forces the amp to scale the picture to 1080p actual rather than not use 5% of my screen?

I could set the plasma to "full", where it overscans (and the picture then does fill the screen), but this doesn't give the best picture for either the xbox or the PC.

With the 8g pios, would it not be best to set the amp to "pass through" video and let the screen do all the processing ?

[panayis]

Originally Posted by simonoaks

With the 8g pios, would it not be best to set the amp to "pass through" video and let the screen do all the processing ?

I got some very peculiar results when trying that initially, but I'll give it another go and try setting up each source specifically.

My Original question about the Yamaha scaling is still valid though.

You can pick up RX-V3800 for £1189 from Sevenoaks hifi in their sale (www.ssav.com) - love the new amp - awesome

[lawrenso]

Originally Posted by lankygliderman

You can pick up RX-V3800 for £1189 from Sevenoaks hifi in their sale (www.ssav.com) - love the new amp - awesome

Any prices on other amps that you know about at 7Oaks??

[PUD the Ancient]

I am going to be picking up this a 3800 in the next few weeks but if someone could just answer me a question regarding HDMI. I will be hooking up my PS3 to receive PCM lossless sound while watching Blu-ray but the distance from PS3 to amp will be 3m and then 3m back to the TV. If good quality cables are used is this to far and do I need to move things around to get the PS3 closer to the Amp?

Many thanks

Paul

[lawrenso]

Don't go there!!!!!! there are many threads (read arguments) throughout AVForums relating to "quality" HDMI cables and lengths etc and there seem to be 2 camps - but for the lengths that you are talking about this should not be an issue and there are several quality suppliers on fleabay that will satisfy your needs.

Lawrenso

[panayis]

Originally Posted by pauldarrington

I am going to be picking up this a 3800 in the next few weeks but if someone could just answer me a question regarding HDMI. I will be hooking up my PS3 to receive PCM lossless sound while watching Blu-ray but the distance from PS3 to amp will be 3m and then 3m back to the TV. If good quality cables are used is this to far and do I need to move things around to get the PS3 closer to the Amp?

Many thanks

Paul

Hi Paul, I agree with lawrenso. At only 3m any HDMI cable should easily cope with the job. The only thing to avoid would be running it past any coiled power cables.

I am getting most of my cables from cableuniverse.co.uk. I found them to be very fast and very helpful to deal with. They do this model for a snip at just over £7... http://www.cableuniverse.co.uk/catal...oducts_id=1552

(No, I don't work for them.. lol. I just like to promote excellent online retailers when I meet them)

[Mausse]

Originally Posted by pauldarrington

I am going to be picking up this a 3800 in the next few weeks but if someone could just answer me a question regarding HDMI. I will be hooking up my PS3 to receive PCM lossless sound while watching Blu-ray but the distance from PS3 to amp will be 3m and then 3m back to the TV. If good quality cables are used is this to far and do I need to move things around to get the PS3 closer to the Amp?

Many thanks

Paul

I have my ps3 connected with a 7m hdmi to my philips lcd, through my yammi V2600, no problems at all. It's digital it "works or not" 1010010011001001001000011101111100011

Good luck Mausse

[lawrenso]

Originally Posted by Mausse

I have my ps3 connected with a 7m hdmi to my philips lcd, through my yammi V2600, no problems at all. It's digital it "works or not" 1010010011001001001000011101111100011

Good luck Mausse

let me go there now Digital signals do degrade for a number of reasons, one being distance and the effect of capacitance, induction and Resistance, which makes the nice sharp edges of a digital wave form become sloped, and can cause jitter timing issues, levels not to be sensed properly, incorrect values to be "sensed" etc but I am sure that now days the electronics are much more able to deal with these issues, and I am sure that these matters will not come into effect until well over the 10 meter length or if the cables are really cr@p.

I am sure that somebody will jump on me but I apologise now - it has been 20 years since my electronics theory.......

[PUD the Ancient]

Could someone with the 3800 please confirm if the speaker terminals will accept banana plugs? I am being told not and that just seems ridiculous to me.

[jacked]

Originally Posted by pauldarrington

Could someone with the 3800 please confirm if the speaker terminals will accept banana plugs? I am being told not and that just seems ridiculous to me.

Yes it does no problem.
The speaker terminals have a small grommet in the end that you just need to flick out.
Dave

[PUD the Ancient]

Originally Posted by jacked

Yes it does no problem.
The speaker terminals have a small grommet in the end that you just need to flick out.
Dave

Thanks very much I thought it sounded a bit daft.

[panayis]

My first use of banana plugs was with this amp! I can't believe how easy it made re-connecting the speakers!

Just insert a woodscrew, a couple of twists, pull the screw and a little plastic gromit insert comes out. All out in a couple of minutes.

[PUD the Ancient]

Does anyone have a PS3 hooked up to the 3800 and can confirm that when sent a multi channel PCM (lpcm) signal that the amp can apply post processing. Just want to make sure all processing is available when sending PCM from PS3 (Blu-ray film).

Thanks

Paul

[Srdjan]

Originally Posted by pauldarrington

Does anyone have a PS3 hooked up to the 3800 and can confirm that when sent a multi channel PCM (lpcm) signal that the amp can apply post processing. Just want to make sure all processing is available when sending PCM from PS3 (Blu-ray film).

Thanks

Paul

Hi Paul,

I can answer this question for you. I have PS3, beside Elite and XE1, connected to 3800. At this stage PS3 doesn't bitstream HD audio or DTS-HD but its handled internally by PS3. When I select uncommpressed or lossless audio from BR disc I can tell the difference but the display on 3800 still stays the same - PCM. When I go into the PS3/BR menu and sellect different language in the upper right corner it displays info about sound quality so for example english1 might be standard DD5.1 and it'll show 648kbs or simmilar, english2 might be 4.5mbs = Dolby TrueHD, France3 might be 1.5mbs = DTS and so on. I tested this on DejaVu BR disc. So hopefully the next PS3 firmware update will allow full bitstream from PS3 same like the last toshiba update has solved this problem on XE1.

I hope this helps,
Srdjan.

[bobpaule]

Originally Posted by lankygliderman

You can pick up RX-V3800 for £1189 from Sevenoaks hifi in their sale (www.ssav.com) - love the new amp - awesome

Newb here, longterm www.AVSforum.com US member, been monitoring here for quite a while.

For other contemplating the receiver, www.6ave.com coupon code AFLYAM1098 gets it for 100 less in yankee quids. The question is of course how much for shipping, then how much for returns? Also, will the Yamaha $48 4 year extended warranty that can be purchased on the Yamaha US online shopping site apply? Wait a moment, what am i talking about, add VAT and customs, still you may want to check into it.

Personally i vouch for the RX-V3800, as i did for the RX-V2700 i owned before it. Paired with the "duct tape" universal A/V transport BD30/A35/Oppo980 (sorry dunno EU names) my BD/HDDVD/SACDs are coming to life. DTSMA-HD in 7.1 native is real sweeeet.

In the end life is too short to count pennies, enjoy your new receiver, you are being addicted to Yamaha sound, there will be no turning back now

BTW do you like YPAO? For some reason it came out better than my DYI SPL calibration. Maibe YPAO has evolved,because the 2700 i had before it sounded better with the DYI calibration in my treated and BFD'd room.

[monky]

I am now using 5.0 Speakers (2*Front + Center + 2*Surround) and i really like the way Enhancer 7ch is projecting the sound (even from DTS/Dolby sources). But when i do that, even if V3800 is using my surround speakers (i can get sound on them), i lose the surround input channels. I mean, i have a setup dvd movie that's testing all the channels, one by one. And when it gets to the surround channels, i get nothing. If i set V3800 on Straight or Sur. Decode, i get the sound for surround channels also. I just wanted to ask you, is it something wrong with my setup or is this normal (as Enchancer even in 7ch is ment to be used on mp3 files or low bitrate audio) ?

I was wondering if it's doing this because i don't have Surround back speakers... and maybe i should change my Surround Left/Right to be Surround Back Left/Right...

Also, i have some problems in movies, as my center speaker is much lower than ear level, and the voice is getting annoying. It sounds like it comes from below (a drain or something). I can't find any way to bring the center also on my front speakers (as i had on my old NAD receiver). And i read in the manual some presence speakers could help with that... but i really don't know if it's worth it, as they might simply enhance the front speakers only, not the center/voice.

Thx in advance, and i wish you a Happy New Year !

[Sluggster]

I'm not sure of the answer to all your surround questions but you could, if possible, point the centre channel speaker upwards - say with some Bluetack or similar. The more you are able to point the tweeter at your ear the better it will sound. If it is on a TV stand shelf try to make sure the speaker drivers are sticking out in to the room as far as possible too.

You might be able to find a purpose built device / stand on the net somewhere. Here is an example:
http://www.racksandstands.com/Lovan-...87-LV1096.html

You could use a bracket to put it above your TV - here is an example:
http://www.chsinteractive.co.uk/elec...mpaign=froogle

[monky]

Sorry Sluggster, but i can't move the speaker above where it stands now. And that's just because of a fullhd 50" plasma :D And setting the center speaker above plasma would sound even stranger (and look ugly like hell as the tv is already fixed on the wall). Anyway, i can't believe such an expensive receiver doesn't have an option to send a speaker channel to another, or mix them... maybe getting the presence speakers would be a good option...

[Little_Donkey]

Hi everyone,
I heard there is a firmware update for the rx-v3800,
for fixing the 'popping' noise occasionally heard when advancing through BR or HD DVD chapters with the advance audio codecs. Someone know about it?


Can you also select the input to show on the display like other brand avr have.
Like
PS3/Bluray
PCM

thanks

[monky]

Originally Posted by Little_Donkey

Hi everyone,
I heard there is a firmware update for the rx-v3800,
for fixing the 'popping' noise occasionally heard when advancing through BR or HD DVD chapters with the advance audio codecs. Someone know about it?

I've been asking for a while for a way to update the firmware... Nobody tells me anything. Yamaha Europe is sending me to the dealer, the dealer is sending me to Yamaha... some ppl say there is no way to update the firmware (which i think is bulls**t). Hopefully, some expert will come and help us... someday...

[Little_Donkey]

What about the information on the front display?
I know its possible to rename the inputs, but will it show also on the frontpanel?

btw where is Chris Moseley?

[lawrenso]

Originally Posted by monky

I've been asking for a while for a way to update the firmware... Nobody tells me anything. Yamaha Europe is sending me to the dealer, the dealer is sending me to Yamaha... some ppl say there is no way to update the firmware (which i think is bulls**t). Hopefully, some expert will come and help us... someday...

I can't remember where I saw/heard it, but I was under the impression that Yamaha was a take it or leave it and do not provide updates for their boxes. Personally I think it is part of their market strategy - why do updates when buyers update.

I suppose if there was a major technical fault that would be another matter..

Lawrenso

[stefanvdb]

I’m currently building a plasma lift so it is very important to me that I will only need one cable between the amp. and television. Can this be done? Are all analog and digital signals up converted to 1080P? Or are all signals being past over the hdmi cable with there original resolution? What about the GUI. Is it transferred via HDMI or not? The manual is so not clear about these things.

[PUD the Ancient]

Originally Posted by stefanvdb

I’m currently building a plasma lift so it is very important to me that I will only need one cable between the amp. and television. Can this be done? Are all analog and digital signals up converted to 1080P? Or are all signals being past over the hdmi cable with there original resolution? What about the GUI. Is it transferred via HDMI or not? The manual is so not clear about these things.

Only analogue signals are up converted to 1080p, anything over HDMI is just past through. GUI is only overlaid on analogue signals, if you want to look at the GUI on a HDMI input the picture is lost to display the GUI, although the sound remains.

[Markie Boy]

Originally Posted by monky

I've been asking for a while for a way to update the firmware... Nobody tells me anything. Yamaha Europe is sending me to the dealer, the dealer is sending me to Yamaha... some ppl say there is no way to update the firmware (which i think is bulls**t). Hopefully, some expert will come and help us... someday...

This popping sound has been noticed by other Receiver manufacturer end-users, and as such is possibly a problem with how the decoding chips (licensed) handle the incoming audio. Either way it suggests the players or the audio manufacturers are to blame, rather than the AVR designers. Of course Yamaha could provide a fix but Im sure as its not their problem they will be reluctant to do something, otherwise it could be construed to be an acceptance of responsibility.