[sapperjohn]

Originally Posted by biscuitmonkey

Hi SapperJohn,

Thanks for you reply. I have just checked and Secondary Audio is definitely set to OFF.

I thought if Secondary Audio was ON then the 616 would show PCM as its audio input, but it didn't - it still showed DTS.

Ok. Will have another look later through both sets of menus and see if I can spot anything else that that might be preventing the HD audio.

[scumball]

Just to be sure you are connected by HDMI for audio right - not Optical?

[ShanePJ]

Just to be sure you are connected by HDMI for audio right - not Optical?

That sounds like a very good question.

If you have the HDMI audio outputs set to Bitstream and the secondary audio switched to off, then it should be working if you are using HDMI from the Blu-ray player to the Amp without any issues. If you are sure that you have not altered any other setting then try resetting your player back to the default setting within the menu option. Check these setting and change accordingly.

I thought if Secondary Audio was ON then the 616 would show PCM as its audio input, but it didn't - it still showed DTS.

As for the above answer, I'm playing with a TXNR5009 with my BDT500 Blu-ray player which was set up for analogue before I placed this big brut in at home and the 5009 showed DTS not PMC in this guise.

Switching the setting over and everything in an instance worked as it should do.

Awesome amp though.

Regards, Shane.

[biscuitmonkey]

Thanks everyone for your help and everything is now working

The audio is definitely coming over the HDMI connection since thats the only connection between the Panasonic and the 616.

However (thanks ShanePJ) resetting the Panasonic to its default settings and changing the HDMI audio settings as I had them before has fixed the problem. I don't know why since the settings are the same.

So I can now enjoy the 616 in all its glory.

Thanks again.

[MrWorty]

Hello guys,

I've set my 616 up and I played Warhorse (Blu Ray) through it and it displayed dts. It may seem a daft question but is dts the optimum or should I be looking for it to display THX or something else.

Thank you

Mr Worty.

[MrWorty]

Originally Posted by Liam1974

I'll look into that thanks. To be honest the Samsung player isn't very good so I only use it for 3D movies (it came with the 3D TV). It lets out a high pitched whine when playing a disc which actually hurts your ears, even over the movie soundtrack. I returned it to Comet and they allegedly repaired it but it came back with exactly the same problem and is now out of warranty so I guess I'm stuck with it now.

I don't suppose my girlfriend is in your player is she?

[markmc2k9]

One thing that annoys me about this amp, every onkyo I have had before displays the audio mode on the LED Panel on the front of the machine. This amp though shows the source you are on which presumably is obvious because you are bloody watching it! Having to press the display button on the remote to see what audio format is being output is ridiculous IMO.

Does anyone know if this can be changed? I suspect not...

[MrWorty]

Originally Posted by markmc2k9

One thing that annoys me about this amp, every onkyo I have had before displays the audio mode on the LED Panel on the front of the machine. This amp though shows the source you are on which presumably is obvious because you are bloody watching it! Having to press the display button on the remote to see what audio format is being output is ridiculous IMO.

Does anyone know if this can be changed? I suspect not...

Hello Mate

I'm very new to this sort of thing but on my first blu ray tonight with the 616 it showed dts in red on the Amp's display.

My set up was with HDMI leads and I was watching Warhorse.

It sounded fantastic by the way.

Not sure if this helps?

[markmc2k9]

Thanks mate but I think that is the very small DTS logo that lights up along the top of the led? I am sitting too far away from my amp to be able to make the small text out and I suspect others are the same. My past three amps actually showed the audio format as the main focus on the led whereas this 616 opts for the name of the source name instead. Not very good I don’t think but it might just be me being anal!

Glad you are liking what you are hearing, it is certainly a cracking bit of equipment when functioning! My replacement arrived today so I’m looking forward to getting home and hooking it all up. I’m desperately hoping there are no issues with this one.

[ShanePJ]

Originally Posted by biscuitmonkey

Thanks everyone for your help and everything is now working

The audio is definitely coming over the HDMI connection since thats the only connection between the Panasonic and the 616.

However (thanks ShanePJ) resetting the Panasonic to its default settings and changing the HDMI audio settings as I had them before has fixed the problem. I don't know why since the settings are the same.

So I can now enjoy the 616 in all its glory.

Thanks again.

Your welcome

Regards, Shane

[MrWorty]

Originally Posted by markmc2k9

Thanks mate but I think that is the very small DTS logo that lights up along the top of the led? I am sitting too far away from my amp to be able to make the small text out and I suspect others are the same. My past three amps actually showed the audio format as the main focus on the led whereas this 616 opts for the name of the source name instead. Not very good I don’t think but it might just be me being anal!

Glad you are liking what you are hearing, it is certainly a cracking bit of equipment when functioning! My replacement arrived today so I’m looking forward to getting home and hooking it all up. I’m desperately hoping there are no issues with this one.

You're welcome. Yes it is very small and in lower case.

Good luck with your new unit. What issues did you have before? I hear some of them had an HDMI out issue?

By the way I collected my 616 brand new about 2 weeks ago and I had to do a firmware update (I did mine via an Ethernet cable). It went through well but took about an hour and was a two stage process.

Very happy with it at the moment although I may have to increase the centre channel speaker output for speech in films.

Good luck mush!

[mkebbay]

Originally Posted by MrWorty

You're welcome. Yes it is very small and in lower case.

Good luck with your new unit. What issues did you have before? I hear some of them had an HDMI out issue?

By the way I collected my 616 brand new about 2 weeks ago and I had to do a firmware update (I did mine via an Ethernet cable). It went through well but took about an hour and was a two stage process.

Very happy with it at the moment although I may have to increase the centre channel speaker output for speech in films.

Good luck mush!

You could just turn dynamic volume to light. Good luck.

[PR.]

I assume the 616 is similar to the 515 that when you turn the amp on it switches to cbl/tv no matter what input you selected?

Is there a way of turning that off?

[Sorry, I only posted question here rather than in the 515 thread as this seems to get more traffic! ]

[PigeonLoft]

Hi. And thank you for the knowledge I've gained here.

But I need more. I am considering replacing my Onkyo TXSR508 With a TXNR616. Don't worry about why, it's all to do with network integration and Android.

However a problem with my 508 is holding me back until I'm sure it's been resolved in the 616.

I currently have an I7 PC with a GTX560 TI card attached to an Acer full-HD monitor (Main display) via DVI and to my 508 via HDMI (HDCP) and then onto a LG full-HD TV.

This took quite a bit of achieving, requiring a lot of Googling as well as some research here on AVF. Eventually I was able to make a connection by dropping the frame rate to 30fps on the Onkyo connection, though it runs at a more normal 60fps on the monitor one.

The upshot of this is that I am able to listen to 5.1 audio from the PC but if I try to watch video hosted on my network or streamed it is choppy on my TV even though the same file is smooth if viewed on my monitor.

So my question is if I buy a 616 and try to connect my PC to it via HDMI, can I expect the full 60fps?

Thanks in advance.

[BUFFCROW]

I just purchased a TX-NR616 and was amazed to note in the PDF manual that there is no A/V out meaning that I cannot record a video from the unit. Am I missing something? I see component out but that will be useless for my Sony DVD recorder. Help.

[Mike999]

Originally Posted by BUFFCROW

I just purchased a TX-NR616 and was amazed to note in the PDF manual that there is no A/V out meaning that I cannot record a video from the unit. Am I missing something? I see component out but that will be useless for my Sony DVD recorder. Help.

By no A/V out do you mean no SCART sockets? No, definitely not, no SCARTs - I'm not sure I know of a modern amp that does. It's got a composite video out, any good? May have to be a component to RGB convertor depending on what you want to record - when you say you want to record a video - where from - what source device? Perhaps you can describe your setup a bit more..

[zq1705]

New firmeware out today

Onkyo | Firmware Update TX-NR616 (24-07-2012)

exciting times!

[DB 2012 Florida]

Be careful with the firmware update that was released today. I have only had the unit for approximately 3 weeks.

The update failed at some point and then restarted. After the update, I lost all sound from the unit. No sound from HDMI and no sound generated while using the test tones for the speakers.

Called Onkyo, unable to solve the problem. Unit is going back to the store that I purchased it at. Very frustrating.

[ash7jar]

Oh my doing it now

[ash7jar]

All done went sweet

[DB 2012 Florida]

As I previously mentioned, the NR616 failed during the firmware update. After many attempts and a few calls to Onkyo customer service I was set to return it to the store that I purchased it at. We could not get it to work. The firmware displaying on the screen was the previous firmware #1110-8107-0300 while the Onkyo website reported that the new one was 1130-9107-0300. The support rep I spoke to said that the firmware was up to date, but clearly it did not match the new one from the Onkyo website. I am not sure that Onkyo support was current with their information.

Not being satisfied with giving up, I tried to update it again. I am not sure what I did differently this time but I was able to successfully update the firmware via ethernet connection via net update. The attempts utilizing USB drive and wireless failed.

The unit is working now as it had previously. Sound from all inputs, all speakers and headphone with sound out now. What an aggravating day.

[Langstone]

Originally Posted by PigeonLoft

Hi. And thank you for the knowledge I've gained here.

But I need more. I am considering replacing my Onkyo TXSR508 With a TXNR616. Don't worry about why, it's all to do with network integration and Android.

However a problem with my 508 is holding me back until I'm sure it's been resolved in the 616.

I currently have an I7 PC with a GTX560 TI card attached to an Acer full-HD monitor (Main display) via DVI and to my 508 via HDMI (HDCP) and then onto a LG full-HD TV.

This took quite a bit of achieving, requiring a lot of Googling as well as some research here on AVF. Eventually I was able to make a connection by dropping the frame rate to 30fps on the Onkyo connection, though it runs at a more normal 60fps on the monitor one.

The upshot of this is that I am able to listen to 5.1 audio from the PC but if I try to watch video hosted on my network or streamed it is choppy on my TV even though the same file is smooth if viewed on my monitor.

So my question is if I buy a 616 and try to connect my PC to it via HDMI, can I expect the full 60fps?

Thanks in advance.

I don't have a 616 but I do have a 1007 connected to a PC and a 1920 X 1080 monitor and a Philips 56" widescreen and all works. As it should.

Regards

Mark

[buchman]

Hi,

I am thinking of getting the 616 but after reading the manual I have a couple questions. I am a complete newbie to A/V, so please apologies if I say something stupid

My problem comes as my TV is still CRT (not hdmi). I have a projector (hdmi) but I won't be using it except when watching a movie.

So, my questions are:

- I've read that in order to see the menus when for example playing mp3 files from a usb device, listening to internet radio, ... output signal only works if TV has hdmi. Is that true? If so, in general, can I manage the 616 just with its display, or do I need a proper (hdmi) TV?

- Also, when my input devices connect by hdmi to the receiver, can the output be my analog TV? From the manual it seems it cannot, unless the inputs connect but components.

Thanks a lot in advance!

[PigeonLoft]

Originally Posted by Langstone

I don't have a 616 but I do have a 1007 connected to a PC and a 1920 X 1080 monitor and a Philips 56" widescreen and all works. As it should.

Regards

Mark

Thanks Mark. I appreciate the reply, but I'm not certain it helps. The 508 suffers this problem and it has been well discussed on other threads on this site and other. Basically you get a distorted screen image under Window 7 (32 or 64bit) until you reduce the frame rate using advanced settings.

At the time, people who had higher-end Onkyo's were reporting that their receivers worked at the full frame rate. Even (if I remember correctly) the 608 owners.

So I'm not surprised that your 1007 is fine, but as both my 508 and proposed 616 both reside in the mid-market sector, I'm worried that if I pony-up 600 of my hard-earned on a modest upgrade, I might still suffer the jitters.

Thanks again, for your interest though.

[Langstone]

Originally Posted by PigeonLoft

At the time, people who had higher-end Onkyo's were reporting that their receivers worked at the full frame rate. Even (if I remember correctly) the 608 owners.

So I'm not surprised that your 1007 is fine, but as both my 508 and proposed 616 both reside in the mid-market sector, I'm worried that if I pony-up 600 of my hard-earned on a modest upgrade, I might still suffer the jitters.

Thanks again, for your interest though.

Can you get a demo locally where you could try it with a laptop perhaps?

If as you say 608 owners where okay, then you should be fine as the 616 is 2 generations on, at the same level.

regards

Mark

[DodgeTheViper]

For anyone interested, there's a proposed review of the 616 in the latest edition of HCC. Sometimes the proposed reviews that are promised dont appear until the following month though.
Anyone who has the mag on subscription should be able to confirm as they should already have it. If not, it's in the shops tomorrow

[MrWorty]

I had the "not powering on from standby via remote" issue with my 3 week old 616.

I successfully downloaded the new firmware last night via ethernet cable.

First impressions are that my not powering on via the remote issue has been resolved.

[BUFFCROW]

Originally Posted by Mike999

By no A/V out do you mean no SCART sockets? No, definitely not, no SCARTs - I'm not sure I know of a modern amp that does. It's got a composite video out, any good? May have to be a component to RGB convertor depending on what you want to record - when you say you want to record a video - where from - what source device? Perhaps you can describe your setup a bit more..

Mike999: Thanks for the response. I just went back over the PDF of the back and did not see a composite OUT. Perhaps the units here in the colonies are different: I have a monitor out and that is all. I want to be able to record non-restricted videos, usually from the Military Channel, onto DVD or even VHS for input into my iMAC for the videos I do for AF reunions. I use line out ( composite video and audio out) on my existing Sony AV Rcvr.. Yeh, not HD but then I do not have a blue ray recorder and thus the resolution is OK>
I keep hearing about all the firmware updates that are failing and I;m still within the 30 days to return this unit. Is this a real issue? I will probably not be using the 5.1 audio ( have set of Bose 301's and a subwoofer) and am buying this for the additional hdmi inputs as the Sony has only 2 and requires toslink fiberoptic audio.

[Mike999]

Originally Posted by BUFFCROW

Mike999: Thanks for the response. I just went back over the PDF of the back and did not see a composite OUT. Perhaps the units here in the colonies are different: I have a monitor out and that is all. I want to be able to record non-restricted videos, usually from the Military Channel, onto DVD or even VHS for input into my iMAC for the videos I do for AF reunions. I use line out ( composite video and audio out) on my existing Sony AV Rcvr.. Yeh, not HD but then I do not have a blue ray recorder and thus the resolution is OK>
I keep hearing about all the firmware updates that are failing and I;m still within the 30 days to return this unit. Is this a real issue? I will probably not be using the 5.1 audio ( have set of Bose 301's and a subwoofer) and am buying this for the additional hdmi inputs as the Sony has only 2 and requires toslink fiberoptic audio.

Ah..I didn't know you weren't in the UK, however the PDF manual for the 616 that I have shows a monitor out phono jack, which is composite video (yellow), and that's for North America, Europe, Australia and Asia, so surely you have one? Can't help thinking that if you don't intend to use 5.1 audio this amp is overkill... Isn't there something cheaper that has the extra hdmi inputs you want?

[BUFFCROW]

Originally Posted by Mike999

Ah..I didn't know you weren't in the UK, however the PDF manual for the 616 that I have shows a monitor out phono jack, which is composite video (yellow), and that's for North America, Europe, Australia and Asia, so surely you have one? Can't help thinking that if you don't intend to use 5.1 audio this amp is overkill... Isn't there something cheaper that has the extra hdmi inputs you want?

Mike999: Yes. Probably is but I want to over do the power. Hey, I read about how much you are paying for these units with your pricy pound sterling... but I found mine on a Fry's ( local electronics store ) special. On Amazon it is $419 and Fry's had it on a one day special...$279. I think that's 177 of your pounds (sorry, can't find the key for that symbol). Ah, I remember the day when I was buying parts for my Triumph Stag and the $ was more valuable than the Pound. Didn't think also that this does not have a phono input. Guess that is reason to keep my Sony for when I start digitizing all my vinyl. Another thing, one of the thunderbolt jacks on my soon to be purchased iMac 27 inch is an input, so I could use that to input to the HD or iMovie directly.
Cheers