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Old 29-02-2012, 1:10 PM   #481
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It does make sense yes. Don't use HDMI for CD as you'll get more jitter than a wino on a Saturday night!
I prefer the (red & white) analogue connections for CD personally but you might want to try it connected via optical or coaxial as well and try both and see which you prefer.
Really ?

CD sound over HMDI is that bad ... ?

Why would a DVD/Blu-ray not also suffer - if its the transport and not then encoding..
 
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Go into setup, listening mode preset. There you can tell the amp what listening mode you want to select when it goes on that particular input.

You don't need an optical input as well as HDMI for Blu-ray either. HDMI will carry both HD picture and sound. You do however need the optical for Sky.

Also on the setup menu, go into source set up and down the bottom make sure you've selected the correct audio input.
That worked, many thanks Nobbler!
 
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When listening to a CD has anyone noticed that the sound appears more biased towards the right-side speaker? Or is it just my set-up.......I've swapped my speakers around even swapped them for the rears but the sound stays the same. Its still a nice sound just a little unnatural i.e. the stereo image is off centre.......if anyone has any advice on how to correct it I'd appreciate it.

PS. My kit consists of Onkyo 609, Dali Zensor 5 5.1 (5s for L/R, Vokal Centre, 1s for surround, E-12F sub), Pioneer BDP-LX52.

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Really ?

CD sound over HMDI is that bad ... ?

Why would a DVD/Blu-ray not also suffer - if its the transport and not then encoding..
It does...have a read of this post here - http://www.avforums.com/forums/blogs...fect-hdmi.html

BUT...
http://www.avforums.com/forums/blogs...fect-hdmi.html
 
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That worked, many thanks Nobbler!
You're welcome.
 
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When listening to a CD has anyone noticed that the sound appears more biased towards the right-side speaker? Or is it just my set-up.......I've swapped my speakers around even swapped them for the rears but the sound stays the same. Its still a nice sound just a little unnatural i.e. the stereo image is off centre.......if anyone has any advice on how to correct it I'd appreciate it.

PS. My kit consists of Onkyo 609, Dali Zensor 5 5.1 (5s for L/R, Vokal Centre, 1s for surround, E-12F sub), Pioneer BDP-LX52.

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Have you cheeked what audessey has set if it has the left one at and -5 and the right at -10 then that's your difference. Are your speakers placed evenly from the center speaker.
 
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Have you cheeked what audessey has set if it has the left one at and -5 and the right at -10 then that's your difference. Are your speakers placed evenly from the center speaker.
left is set to 0 and right is -1. unfortunately no, the right is a lot closer to the centre, does that matter though as I'm only listening to 2-channel?
 
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Ok and yes it does matter try adjusting one up higher than the other to see.
 
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Ok and yes it does matter try adjusting one up higher than the other to see.
No - it won't matter as Audyssey would have time aligned them. Maybe you're sittng closer (slighly) to the louder one maybe...?
 
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No - it won't matter as Audyssey would have time aligned them. Maybe you're sittng closer (slighly) to the louder one maybe...?
What i ment was that on music 2 channel it doesn't just set the speakers back to equal.
 
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What i ment was that on music 2 channel it doesn't just set the speakers back to equal.
In setup, source setup, Audyssey, set it to music and see if that makes a difference.
Maybe use some of the 5.1 music modes as well like PLII music or neo 6 music. You'd be surprised at how good they can sound...not always though.
 
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I prefer 2 channel or all stereo my self.
 
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I prefer 2 channel or all stereo my self.
THX music rocks my boat.
 
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Will give it ago. Not really looked what else the the875 has.
 
Old 29-02-2012, 5:52 PM   #495
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When listening to a CD has anyone noticed that the sound appears more biased towards the right-side speaker? Or is it just my set-up.......I've swapped my speakers around even swapped them for the rears but the sound stays the same. Its still a nice sound just a little unnatural i.e. the stereo image is off centre.......if anyone has any advice on how to correct it I'd appreciate it.

PS. My kit consists of Onkyo 609, Dali Zensor 5 5.1 (5s for L/R, Vokal Centre, 1s for surround, E-12F sub), Pioneer BDP-LX52.

Cheers,
Greg
Hi,
I got my 609 when it launched but I do recall having this issue and it was due to Audyssey setup.
Have a look at what the speakers levels have been set at by Audyssey, you may find that they are different for left and right channels. If you set these the same (I always check it with a sound meter) it should balance.
Without teaching you to suck eggs though, don't forget that the dB rating is relative to THX reference, owners get worried that Audyssey has set speakers at say -6DB.
I use a cheap RS sound meter but there are free apps for iphone and Android. The accuracy doesn't matter here as Audyssey sets the levels, it is the gain relative to each speaker. Does just level them up.
Remember subs don't work properly with sound level meters and thats a whole new subject!
Hope this helps, it did for me and I haven't intended it to come with the proverbial egg!
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Just upgraded my home set-up from an old Denon AVR-1802 to a 609 and am generally pleased with the improvements.

However, I've encountered an odd issue when viewing programs from my Sky HD box. If I live pause a program, then, when I resume the picture continues where it left off but there is no sound for maybe 5 seconds or more; which seems very silly, (and something the Denon handled seamlessly).
Is this a known problem? (a search doesn't reveal anything), or is there something in the settings/set-up I'm missing here?

Any help greatly appreciated.
 
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Just upgraded my home set-up from an old Denon AVR-1802 to a 609 and am generally pleased with the improvements.

However, I've encountered an odd issue when viewing programs from my Sky HD box. If I live pause a program, then, when I resume the picture continues where it left off but there is no sound for maybe 5 seconds or more; which seems very silly, (and something the Denon handled seamlessly).
Is this a known problem? (a search doesn't reveal anything), or is there something in the settings/set-up I'm missing here?

Any help greatly appreciated.
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How are you connecting the audio on the Sky box? I use coaxial to get the DD out but some use optical, this may solve problem if it is a HDMI handshaking issue.
Let us know and I'll power up both brain cells and have a think.
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How are you connecting the audio on the Sky box? I use coaxial to get the DD out but some use optical, this may solve problem if it is a HDMI handshaking issue.
Let us know and I'll power up both brain cells and have a think.
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Hi Andy.

I'm connecting audio through an optical cable, (the same one I was using with the Denon), and it is set up according to the settings in the manual. Sound is superb, it's just the delay in it coming back after a pause.

I've done further tests today and have determined that it doesn't do this every time; but when it does then if I rewind to the same point the sound kicks in straight away. Most odd. Will try to get hold of a coax tomorrow and see if it makes ant difference.
 
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I have tried to search, so sorry if this is a well answered problem.

I've had my nr609 for about a month, and today I'm getting no signal from it to my Panasonic 50G10 via HDMI.

I have tried a second cable which didn't solve the problem.

The amp seems to turn on, but no picture is seen on the tv. I first noticed something was wrong when the through signal on my ps3 wasn't working.

Hopefully there is an easy fix I can do now, otherwise it is back to SuperFi on Saturday.

Help!

Edit: Fixed it with a factory reset. I think the output had been changed from HDMI to analog.

For future reference, how do I fix this without a reset?

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Hi Andy.

I'm connecting audio through an optical cable, (the same one I was using with the Denon), and it is set up according to the settings in the manual. Sound is superb, it's just the delay in it coming back after a pause.

I've done further tests today and have determined that it doesn't do this every time; but when it does then if I rewind to the same point the sound kicks in straight away. Most odd. Will try to get hold of a coax tomorrow and see if it makes ant difference.
Hi Peter, Definately a strange one. Initial thoughts are whether there is a slight pause in the Sky box outputting the sound and the 609 is not detecting it, hence a delay. There are some small issues with the 609, I have issues randomly with HDMI passthrough losing audio but have found a workaround for this and am hoping it will be fixed in a firmware update.
Have you done the lastest firmware update for your 609?
I will have a think but you can always post a question on the Onkyo Facebook page,they get answered quite quickly, its better than raising a ticket.
Hope this helps,
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Hi Peter, Definately a strange one. Initial thoughts are whether there is a slight pause in the Sky box outputting the sound and the 609 is not detecting it, hence a delay. There are some small issues with the 609, I have issues randomly with HDMI passthrough losing audio but have found a workaround for this and am hoping it will be fixed in a firmware update.
Have you done the lastest firmware update for your 609?
I will have a think but you can always post a question on the Onkyo Facebook page,they get answered quite quickly, its better than raising a ticket.
Hope this helps,
Andy
The same thing happens to me with my Humax 9300 freeview box and Onkyo 609. Sometimes when you change channel there is no sound for a couple of seconds but if you rewind, the sound is there from the start. Also happens when starting recorded programs.

Also, very occasionally, during a program, the onkyo will cut sound completely for a second but if you rewind, it plays fine. Strange!!!!

Its all connected through HDMI and I updated the firmware to the latest version a few weeks ago but it made no difference.

I've got Boston Acoustic Soundware XS speakers if that makes a difference!
 
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It's not a fault or oddity, just the receiver changing sound modes (or deciding if it has to) when you change the sound codec coming in. So watching a 5.1 programme and then it shifts to the ads you get a pause as the receiver goes from its 5.1 setting to whatever the 2.0 setting is. Same thing when the ads finish. If you then rewind back the 2 secs there is no problem because it's already set itself for 5.1 again.

I think it's meant to help if you set the sources rather than leaving things on "last good" or whatever the default it.
 
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Was just wondering when you play thx discs do they come up on the screen of the 609 like dts or dd does?
 
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I have tried to search, so sorry if this is a well answered problem.

I've had my nr609 for about a month, and today I'm getting no signal from it to my Panasonic 50G10 via HDMI.

I have tried a second cable which didn't solve the problem.

The amp seems to turn on, but no picture is seen on the tv. I first noticed something was wrong when the through signal on my ps3 wasn't working.

Hopefully there is an easy fix I can do now, otherwise it is back to SuperFi on Saturday.

Help!

Edit: Fixed it with a factory reset. I think the output had been changed from HDMI to analog.

For future reference, how do I fix this without a reset?
Go into settings, input/output (the top one), outputs and select HDMI out.
 
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Hi All,

I have a 579 and am just starting out with it.

I have connected my Sony 580 via the HDMI in through mode and tonight while watching the deathly hallows I could not get the mode to DTS-HD Master Audio.

It detects multichannel and I cant for the life of me change it to DTS-HD.

Is this normal or am I doing something wrong ?

If I select Display the screen says DTS-HD Master Ausio 5.1

Cheers in advance.

Ron.
 
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Have you set the blue ray player to output bitstream and if not and if lpcm then its still the same but decode in the player and not amp so the amp won't light up.
 
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Have you set the blue ray player to output bitstream and if not and if lpcm then its still the same but decode in the player and not amp so the amp won't light up.

Ahh not really set anything on the player.
I'll check the manual and see if I can find out how to output bitstream and update the thread.

Thanks for the quick reply.

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Ok hopefully that will sort it bitstream is raw data and needs decoding so the amp has to do it and will light up with dts master audio.
 
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Thank you scott - worked a treat.

Just out of interest, do people generaly use the picture adjustments on the onk or the TV or both when using the AVR ?

I have set mine on the TV and wonder if the AVR does it better.
 
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Thank you scott - worked a treat.

Just out of interest, do people generaly use the picture adjustments on the onk or the TV or both when using the AVR ?

I have set mine on the TV and wonder if the AVR does it better.
Glad you sorted it. Just remember either way is as good just either one does the decoding.

I use the tv for any colour adjustments.
 
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