[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Hey guys, it's all been a little quiet over here lately, hopefully this can be read OK, I thought this was well worth posting though, especially as Bryston have been ranked no1 for performance, reliability, tech support and repair issues, I guess anyone who owns any Bryston kit already knew that

A big congratulations to everyone at Bryston, as in this tough market place that is no small feat

[ritchief]

SP3 owners - if you are not aware firmware, as below, is up on Bryston site:"ftp://bryston.com/pub/fw/sp3/"


Version: u2012.05e (index.htm-038)
Build Date: Mar 19 2012 16:32:27

[JürgenNL]

In the stereophile of May a review of the SP3 by Kal Rubinson in his column Music in the Round. This is first part of the review, the second one will appear next time.

Reason behind to make it a two part review is that Rubinson is very positive about the SP3.

[alpha10]

It is very quiet around here at the moment, is it just that the gobby SP3 owners are now so content there is nothing left to talk about?

[Dav1dF]

Originally Posted by alpha10

It is very quiet around here at the moment, is it just that the gobby SP3 owners are now so content there is nothing left to talk about?

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by Dav1dF

It should worry you more than me that I can now find nothing in my system I am not happy with, who else is going to pay for your lavish caribbean holidays

[alpha10]

Ahh, just had a thought, has anyone bought a Bryston BIT yet in the UK??

Cheers

[Dav1dF]

Originally Posted by alpha10

It should worry you more than me that I can now find nothing in my system I am not happy with, who else is going to pay for your lavish caribbean holidays

I'm afraid you've been misled there! I've left this country twice - once to France with my school (30 years ago) and once to the Munich High End Show last year

I can't afford holidays like most people

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by Dav1dF

I'm afraid you've been misled there! I've left this country twice
:

You can't tell me you never popped over to Saltash when you lived in Plymouth...

Have you heard anything about any promotional stuff Bryston might be doing for their Birthday, James seems to be keeping quiet?

cheers

[Dav1dF]

Originally Posted by alpha10

You can't tell me you never popped over to Saltash when you lived in Plymouth...

I lived in Saltash - worked in Plymouth

Have you heard anything about any promotional stuff Bryston might be doing for their Birthday, James seems to be keeping quiet?

cheers

I've heard nothing yet, but the rep is due in - I'll quiz him

[ritchief]

Originally Posted by alpha10

....Saltash..

cheers

you just spent shivers down my spine saying that name, you weren't on the married patch were you ?

[ritchief]

Originally Posted by alpha10

It is very quiet around here at the moment, is it just that the gobby SP3 owners are now so content there is nothing left to talk about?

I must say, Alpha10, I was beginning to be concerned that the thread was about to be demoted to the "page 2" league...

thank you for saving us...

Note to self, must start thinking of SP3 topics to discuss.

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by Dav1dF

I've heard nothing yet, but the rep is due in - I'll quiz him

Could you find out some prices on the 240 volt 50Hz BIT versions which are BIT-4, BIT-8 and BIT-16?

Only out of interest of course

Cheers

[Dav1dF]

Originally Posted by ritchief

Note to self, must start thinking of SP3 topics to discuss.

How about discussing how well it's integrating with your room in the absence of room EQ? Interesting

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by ritchief

you just spent shivers down my spine saying that name, you weren't on the married patch were you ?

No, I'm a Devon boy, but married a girl from Cornish stock...

Although my dad was a Royal Marine, so I do know the quarters.

Cheers

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by Dav1dF

How about discussing how well it's integrating with your room in the absence of room EQ? Interesting

That is going to be the most facinating part of Kal Rubinson's review(s) as he is THE biggest room EQ man...

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by ritchief

I must say, Alpha10, I was beginning to be concerned that the thread was about to be demoted to the "page 2" league...

thank you for saving us...

Note to self, must start thinking of SP3 topics to discuss.

I am hoping that they are going to release the combined SP3/BDP iPad app shortly, that should be worth talking about. There is also going to be a BDP release in the next couple of days complete with the MAX2 interface..

Cheers

[ritchief]

Originally Posted by alpha10

I am hoping that they are going to release the combined SP3/BDP iPad app shortly, that should be worth talking about. There is also going to be a BDP release in the next couple of days complete with the MAX2 interface..

Cheers

I am really looking forward to the Ipad app (no pressure Bryston)..

If you see the updated can you give us a heads up - thanks

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by ritchief

I am really looking forward to the Ipad app (no pressure Bryston)..

If you see the updated can you give us a heads up - thanks

I am looking forward to the app as well, the wallet police are resistant, so I am going to use it as the reason for buying an iPad3 The combined app will be perfect for me, can't wait...

They are in Beta testing for the the new BDP software so shouldn't be long.

Cheers

[Dav1dF]

Retina display is a good enough reason to buy an iPad 3

[alpha10]

There is a demo of the forthcoming Max2 interface for the BDP here if you are interested, it is quite long:

Firmware April 2012.mov - YouTube

Cheers

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Hi Guys,

If you head over to Bryston on Audiocircle there is the much anticipated Stereophile review of the SP3 -

Please find link below, please ignore the warning -

https://bryston.com/PDFs/SP3.pdf

Yet another glowing review of the SP3 Looking forward to PT2

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

After reading that review and with comments like -

'This was the first time in a very long time that I had enjoyed convincing multi channel high resolution sound without digital processing, chalk it up to the excellent analog signals provided by the Oppo, but also, in no small measure to the Brystons SP3 utterly transperent sound'

I feel I should explore using the multichannel outputs a little more from my Oppo 95, I know when I used to have my Susano I much preferred the Oppo doing the decoding but since I got the SP3 I have been more than happy with it's performance over HDMI, time to have a play I feel, maybe I'm missing a trick here

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Had a really nice suprise in the post yesterday, a beautifully presented Ltd ED 50 page hard back perfect bound book celebrating 20 years of PMC

Coming from a print background it is clear to see how much effort has gone into producing this book, it's absolutely gorgeous with some fantastic pictures and imagery.

I'm now hoping for something similar from Bryston this year to celebrate their big anniversary to make a matching pair, how about it James

[Welwynnick]

Originally Posted by Vipers @ Zinc-HT

After reading that review and with comments like -

'This was the first time in a very long time that I had enjoyed convincing multi channel high resolution sound without digital processing, chalk it up to the excellent analog signals provided by the Oppo, but also, in no small measure to the Brystons SP3 utterly transperent sound'

I feel I should explore using the multichannel outputs a little more from my Oppo 95, I know when I used to have my Susano I much preferred the Oppo doing the decoding but since I got the SP3 I have been more than happy with it's performance over HDMI, time to have a play I feel, maybe I'm missing a trick here

Hi Vipers,

I wonder if some of that was about Kal's preference for using room correction, even with stereo & music? He seems to like digitising his audio, which I try to avoid.

Many of us have found analogue multi-channel connections to work well. This puts the onus on the player for speaker management and DA conversion, leaving the processor to handle switching and volume control. I'd be interested to hear how you get on with that comparison, but I do wonder if the SP2 can't do the same thing?

BR, Nick

[Smurfin]

Anyone know why there's no EQ on the Bryston SSP3? And don't say "because it doesn't need it"

For such a high end piece of kit, you would have thought this would be a minimum inclusion? I'd love to have a listen to one

[Dav1dF]

I think, like video upscaling, it's something that tends to progress quite fast, so omitting it removes the possibility of that feature going out of date and rendering the processor less desirable. Obviously an offboard room EQ system can be added, and as such, can also be upgraded to "keep up".

[Cadet]

Originally Posted by Smurfin

Anyone know why there's no EQ on the Bryston SSP3? And don't say "because it doesn't need it"

For such a high end piece of kit, you would have thought this would be a minimum inclusion? I'd love to have a listen to one

Here is a quote from James that will hopefully answer your question Matt.

'' If you mean digital room correction through EQ the problem is that it totally screws up the direct sound vs the reflected sound coming from the speaker.

When you listen to a speaker in a room you are listening to what we call the ‘power response’ and you hear all the direct sound as well as the reflected sound mixed together. When you alter the direct sound at the speaker using EQ it totally changes the relationship between the direct and reflected sound and is a disaster when it comes to time smear. That’s why a lot of these types of EQ products try and average the curves as they are attempting to negate to some degree of the problem. Having a spot in the room which measures flat frequency response but everywhere else in the room measures like crap is not a good result in my opinion. I think you are much better off adjusting the speaker location and using proper room treatments. If all else fails maybe some EQ can be used but I would recommend keeping the correction only for the very low bass frequencies.''

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Originally Posted by Welwynnick

Hi Vipers,

Many of us have found analogue multi-channel connections to work well. This puts the onus on the player for speaker management and DA conversion, leaving the processor to handle switching and volume control. I'd be interested to hear how you get on with that comparison, but I do wonder if the SP2 can't do the same thing?

BR, Nick

Hi Nick,

As you know, since owning my Pioneer LX91 and spending much time comparing analogue with HDMI I have always prefered the presentation from analogue from the various players and processors/receivers I have had in my system, but I have been so impressed with the performance with HDMI since installing the SP3 that even though I hooked up the analogues from the 95 I haven't bothered trying them, sounds like I may have be missing out on something a little special.

I'll keep you posted

[alpha10]

Originally Posted by Smurfin

Anyone know why there's no EQ on the Bryston SSP3? And don't say "because it doesn't need it"

For such a high end piece of kit, you would have thought this would be a minimum inclusion? I'd love to have a listen to one

"Because it doesn't need it"



Maybe have a listen and then comment?